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KAding
Well, there are a couple Muslim countries in which voting is fairly free, such as Indonesia, Albania or Mali for example?
Yet, have Muslims there voted for an Islamic state? It doesn't appear so. In fact, in all cases those favoring Islamic government and an Islamic legal system appear to be in a clearly minority? Not to say that couldn't change of course.
When it is time for an Islamic state, it will happen.. all predictions uttered under divine inspiration have happened and continue to happen insha'Allah.. thus no one can stand here and say which year it will come about 2012 or 7089.. as that is a matter of the unseen.. We are all playing in the free time for now.. and fervency depends on your perspective, of course I don't expect this to have any sort of impact on you.. but in accordance with Islam.. it is happening as it was meant to, the worst of it and the best of it!
The prophesised conquest was linked to five signs that were not present in the conquest of Muhammad Al Fateh. It is narrated from Abu Huraira that the prophet (saw) said,
“The hour will never come until the Muslims enter a’mar and dabiq (two places in Al Sham and Aleppo), the army will rise from Madinah and they will be the best people at that time, when they clash they (the kuffar of a’mar and dabiq) will say to the Muslims, ‘stand aside, and let us fight those who took our property ….” The Muslims will say, “we will never leave you, fight them and you will kill them.” They will fight and kill a third of them and Allah will never forgive any one of them, and then another third from whom Allah will accept some of them shaheed, and the best of the shaheed in the eyes of Allah will be will the last third, they will conquer them and never be defeated, they will conquer Constantinople and while they are dividing the ghanima they hang their swords on the tree and the shaytan will say ‘jesus has risen among your people“ and they will go there and he will be the false messiah. When they go to Al Sham, he will rise and when they prepare the lines to fight the adhan will rise and the real Jesus will come down and lead the salah. When the Dajjal sees him he will melt like the salt and if he did not leave him he would have melted until Allah destroyed him, but Allah will let Isa kill him …” [Muslim]
Abu Huraira narrated that the prophet (saw) said,
“I heard of a city that half of it is in the land and half in the sea” they said, “that is true, O Messenger of Allah” he (saw) said, “the hour will not come until 70,000 of the children of Ishaq will come and conquer it, they will never conquer with swords, they will shout ‘laa ilaaha illallah’ and ‘Allahu Akbar’ and half of the city will be conquered.” [Muslim]
Imam Thawr ibn Ahmed said,
“The half taken by them is the half that is in the sea, they will say ‘laa ilaaha illallah wallahu Akbar’ and they will go to the other half and conquer it without fighting.”
Constantinople is an example of Dar ul Kufr transforming into Dar ul Islam and is now again Dar ul Kufr and the hadith of Muhammad (saw) prophecises that we will conquer it again.
Imam Nawawi said,
“With the first takbeer, half of Constantinople will be conquered, that part is that of the sea and then they will say ‘laa ilaaha illallah’ and they will open it all and enter to gather the ghanima, as they are gathering the ghanima people will come and say that isa has risen.” [Imam Nawawi in Sharh Muslim v18 p43-44]
The only difference among the fuqaha is that some say that those who rise will be sons of Ishaq (as) and others say sons of Ismaeel (as).
Imam Tirmizi said,
“Conquering Constantinople is with the big sign of the hour, Constantinople is the city of the romans that the Muslims will conquer while the dajjal is rising.”
Part of Constantinople was conquered in the time of Mu’awiyah and the other in the time of Muhammad Al Fateh, but that is not the prophecised conquest, it is a conquest like any other. Ibn Kathir said,
“indeed it has been conquered in the time of Mu’awiyah, he sent among them many sahabi, among them was Abu Ayyub Al Ansari, however they did not conquer it, … in the time of Abdul Malik bin Marwan, he agreed not to enter but to implement the law of Islam and to build masajid there.”
Ibn Taymiyyah said,
“The Muslims conquered Constantinople twice, first in the time of Mu’awiyah with Abu Ayub al Ansari and after that battle Abu Ayyub was buried.” [Majmou’ Al Fattawa v18]
Abdullah ibn Umar narrated that
“The Messenger said, “the first army that conquers Constantinople will be forgiven.”
That is the conquest by Mu’awiyah (ra) and among that army was Yazeed ibn Mu’awiyah, so how dare some people insult Yazeed when Allah has forgiven that army?
The second conquest of Constantinople was the one of Abdul Malik ibn Marwan who appointed his son Maslamah and sent an expedition for Constantinople, they did not enter but agreed to build the aghia Sophia Masjid (now a museum) and to rule over it by Islam. After that Muhammad Al Fateh opened it completely.
Moreoever, Ibn Taymiyyah reported in Majmou’ Al Fattawa v35 p138, said,
“There has been many times when the kuffar have entered Egypt and occupied it, …”
The best example of this is the Ubaidis, at that time they did not even let people quote hadith and they rewarded those who cursed the sahabah. They came to power and implemented kufr law, Salahuddin took back Egypt taking it back into Dar ul Islam after it had been transformed to Dar ul Kufr from Dar ul Islam.
Another example of Dar ul Islam to become Dar ul Kufr is the Muslim countries today, there is only dispute over Saudi Arabia because people are so attached to Makkah and Madina, the two sacred masjid. This is the argument of the fake ‘salafis’, who claim that to call Makkah dar ul kufr is an insult to the house of Allah.
We agree that the kuffar have entered into the Muslim lands and occupied and destroyed the Islamic State, that all the rest of the muslim land has become dar ul kufr, but it is about time that people accept what is the haq, that Saudi Arabia and every other Muslim country in the world today is Dar ul Kufr and the leaders of all of those countries are kuffar murtaddeen.
source for interested in reading more
of course it is easier to just go to your nine volumes of bukhari and Muslim