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salma888
08-19-2007, 01:05 PM
AoA everyone,

I was searching on the Internet recently and surprisingly found a lot of stuff on Muslim matrimonial. Many sites have been made exclusively for Muslims where you can go, make a profile of your own and then receive a lot of emails and messages from potential partners. But is it really successful?

You may want to tell us your experiences if you have been a part of these sites. For those who want to know the secrets to successful online meeting and ending up being married to the right Muslim, there's a very useful ebook on this topic, The Right Muslim.

Let's hear your stories!

Salma

P.S. The URL to downloading the ebook is http://www.rightmuslim.com/
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Kittygyal
08-19-2007, 01:32 PM
Nope i disagree.
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noorseeker
08-19-2007, 01:52 PM
salam sister, there is a site called THEPMMS.com , its for practising muslims only and it is strictly monitored.
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3isha
08-19-2007, 01:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Nope i disagree.
yup, so do i,
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Kittygyal
08-19-2007, 02:19 PM
:sl:

Wait let's get this right.

Lord above i have to type alot naw!! so bare with me plz

Right firstly i disagree coz im sure in Islam 'love marriage' aint allowed im i correct?

Erm secondly you never know who's behind the screen it can be anyone giving fake details and chattin aload of bull!! get mi??

thirdly it's forbidden in islam to chat to opposite genders right??

so erm it doesn't matter if it's monitored strickly or not, point being it sick going on marriage sites and find a spouse just waste of time. I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IT THO SO DON'T TAKE ME THE WRONG WAY!!
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islamirama
08-19-2007, 06:43 PM
naseeb.com has helped many get married and find their spouses.

There is nothing wrong in seeking a spouse via online. But it is important to take precaution, visit reliable sites only and also have a wali involved.
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AmarFaisal
08-19-2007, 07:03 PM
it isn't abt dating ...online matrimonials are to seen by parents, wouldn't that help so much for so many unmarried girls. And which parents wouldn't take precautions. Anyways, bad decisions r sometimes taken even when u know ppl since yrs, so why not try this out. But ofcourse, every1 knows how to take precautions.
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noorseeker
08-19-2007, 07:09 PM
Where i said strictly monitored meaning you do not talk to each other on the phone or anything, u dont get peoples emails or any thing like that and you need a wali involved , I agree with you most marriage sites can lead to a lot of fitnah you can easily get peoples numbers and then have useless conversations. I dont bother contacting any one , coz them practising girls seem un -attainable , seem really pious and that and i am practising but with very limited knowledge, and i dnt wanna marry a non practising muslim girl so i guess im stuck. Any way I need to ask , where exactly are all these practising sisters , i cant name one , i ask everyone and no one can answer me.

Its just that you hear and see many brothers , who suddenly make a change and become religious after leading a life of vice. The thing is a lot of girls wear hijab, allahamdulillah, but it doesnt mean their practising , where as if you see a guy with a topi on im 90% sure he is practising
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tryinghard
08-20-2007, 03:49 AM
:sl: I honestly didn't think it would be possible, but a friend of mine recently got married after finding her husband through one of these sites. The reason I was skeptical was because it seemed difficult that two people who don't know each other and may live far away and are interacting only via the internet could possibly decide if they are suitable for marriage. But, it is an Islamically approved way of meeting other people and as I'm sure these sites are properly monitored, one can find someone who is perfectly suited for them.
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salma888
08-21-2007, 10:00 AM
AoA, thank you all for you replies :) Definitely everything has its positive as well as negative points and we have to stay within limits while doing something like this. But love marriage is not prohibited in Islam, it's only how to interpret the term 'love marriage'. Of course both the woman and the man have to see each other in presence of other people or a picture, discuss something generally just to hear each other's opinions and then decide whether they would make a good couple or not.

I personally don't like chatting or talking on the phone, but on these sites what you do is create a profile by entering your interests and what kind of a partner you are looking for. The rest is handled by the site management. If you don't want to chat, it's up to you. In fact it's a good practice not to reveal personal information including telephone number on these sites.

People have been successful in finding their soul mates online. Especially women above the age of 26, 27 who have not succeeded in finding a partner offline (because of societal issues or anything else) have a great chance on these sites. And everyone has a right to propose, don't they? :)
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ahsan28
08-21-2007, 10:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Nope i disagree.
Include me also :D
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Salaam
08-21-2007, 12:00 PM
no way.....
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AnonymousPoster
08-21-2007, 12:42 PM
:sl:

It is possible. Not only those matrimonial sites but it seems MSN is becoming a tool too, the Net itself... :exhausted A brother, friends with my male-cousin was watching when I was chatting to my cousin on MSN. He got immediately interested, then also saw me live by mistake, sent some relatives over to my place to discuss with me, but unfortunately I didn't feel comfortable or ready so I refused.

Later on I got told this is becoming quite natural where I am from.

Nothing these days seems impossible - Feels like almost everywhere there's a little bit of a possibility.


I most definitely agree with salma888 and tryinghard. :)
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salma888
08-21-2007, 03:08 PM
I think posting a picture for females is not appropriate since a lot of men will be looking at them with an intention to accept or reject. So it's morally not very appealing even if the woman is in hijab. But having posted to these sites is certainly beneficial and I hope other girls will also see its positive points :)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-21-2007, 03:13 PM
sis its all money making schemes..
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ahsan28
08-21-2007, 03:38 PM
1. Two Russian Students Get Prison Terms for Internet Marriage Fraud.
2. Arrests in Yoshkar-Ola of those who posted introduction profiles on different sites, portraying themselves as women who wanted to get married to foreigners.
3. A San Bernardino County man was sentenced to five years in federal prison yesterday for cheating men out of more than $1 million in a Russian bride scam.
4. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the arrest of two alleged marriage agency fraudsters after a Sydney man wrote to him, saying he had been conned by a young Russian brunette offering marriage over the internet.



http://agencyscams.com/Arrests.html



Marriage Fraud

Marriage by mail is a risky business. These schemes are typically designed as marriage, relationship, or friendship announcements but may have other shapes and forms, too. Encounters are generally made through e-mail, Internet chat rooms, matrimonial websites, etc.

http://belarus.usembassy.gov/romance_cheat.html
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Huma*
08-21-2007, 03:48 PM
Assalamalykum,
These Matrimonial sites are very useful for those who can't spare their time separately for this matter. well if u talk about fake and cheating you may even face it in reality, aren't you? to whom you are gonna blame then?.
These sites are like, use it if you need it, and if you found your match and unfortunately if things goes wrong don't blame on it. After all matches are made in Heaven.

JazakAllah khaer
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Lady_Nadine
08-22-2007, 02:39 AM
I don't think any of these sites help. I for one have never tried it, but my brothers have. I honestly think it is a waste of time and money. I think a respectful muslim guy or girl should see face to face. And not what is behind your screen. My mother have told me many times, it is usually done between the parents. But I don't think it is wrong for a man and woman to get to know each other outside the parents supervision either. Just as long it is monitar enough where nothing really happens.

I haven't even been complete a lone with a guy, (even if he is a friend of mine) I am usually with a group of people or in a public place. That way I feel safe enough where I feel comfortable and where I know he won't do anything in front of everyone. But I normal have this conversation before hand. That we are strickly friends and nothing more!

sorry for ramdaming.
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Abdul Fattah
08-22-2007, 02:45 AM
Selam aleykum
To be honest, I have absolutely no good idea of whether or not this is possible and/or acceptable or not.

Some commments on what has been said though
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
:sl:
Right firstly i disagree coz im sure in Islam 'love marriage' aint allowed im i correct?
1. I'm not sure what you mean by love marriage and why you think it's forbidden.
2. I don't know what the difference between finding a partner on-line and of-line is in terms of "love". I mean, would you love someone you find on-line more than someone you find trough people who know some people?

Erm secondly you never know who's behind the screen it can be anyone giving fake details and chattin aload of bull!! get mi??
I think the idea is to just know the person exists trough this site, and then proceeding as normal. By the way, if you're talking face to face the person can still give a lot of lies. In the end you never know


thirdly it's forbidden in islam to chat to opposite genders right??
Who says you have to chat? What about mails, are those allowed? I would think people sent letters in the old days to find out wheter or not the person was eligable?
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salma888
08-22-2007, 08:20 AM
yes i think writing letters is allowed and even it's allowed in islam for a girl to send a proposal for a guy. fraudulent business is everywhere, not just in this matter and i agree that even face to face you may think you know a person very well but everything changes once you get married. the masks are unveiled and we see the real person only after marriage even if the person happens to be our relative (cousin).

i personally am in favor of monitored matrimonial sites where responsible people are trying their very best to help women and men who have been unlucky in finding their partner offline. you may even want to post a few particulars of yourself or your friend (or sister/brother) to see how many people actually respond.
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Kittygyal
08-22-2007, 12:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Fattah
Selam aleykum
To be honest, I have absolutely no good idea of whether or not this is possible and/or acceptable or not.

Some commments on what has been said though

1. I'm not sure what you mean by love marriage and why you think it's forbidden.
2. I don't know what the difference between finding a partner on-line and of-line is in terms of "love". I mean, would you love someone you find on-line more than someone you find trough people who know some people?


I think the idea is to just know the person exists trough this site, and then proceeding as normal. By the way, if you're talking face to face the person can still give a lot of lies. In the end you never know



Who says you have to chat? What about mails, are those allowed? I would think people sent letters in the old days to find out wheter or not the person was eligable?

You know wot i aint gonn say anythin coz either ma posts get deleted or edited. so you lot say w/e u want .
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~Juwairiyah~
08-26-2007, 06:39 AM
:sl: wr wb,

format_quote Originally Posted by ahsan28
1. Two Russian Students Get Prison Terms for Internet Marriage Fraud.
2. Arrests in Yoshkar-Ola of those who posted introduction profiles on different sites, portraying themselves as women who wanted to get married to foreigners.
3. A San Bernardino County man was sentenced to five years in federal prison yesterday for cheating men out of more than $1 million in a Russian bride scam.
4. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the arrest of two alleged marriage agency fraudsters after a Sydney man wrote to him, saying he had been conned by a young Russian brunette offering marriage over the internet.



http://agencyscams.com/Arrests.html



Marriage Fraud

Marriage by mail is a risky business. These schemes are typically designed as marriage, relationship, or friendship announcements but may have other shapes and forms, too. Encounters are generally made through e-mail, Internet chat rooms, matrimonial websites, etc.

http://belarus.usembassy.gov/romance_cheat.html
I was watching the news this other day and there was the story of this guy who was looking for his "soulmate" online, he met this person who lived in Africa...they probably chatted for awhile, agreed to meet or something...so the guy flies over to Africa and gets kidnapped, puts his life in great danger and the people that kidnapped him were the ones he has been chatting with, basically he has been tricked.

The internet should be the last place a person goes to look for his 'other' half! There are heapz of other ways you can safely find a spouse, through your family, friends, local masjid...etc. And the best of all is to pray to Allah (SWT) and ask Him (SWT) to give you a righteous husband and to be patient!

Like they say, BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY!!!

Salam
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anonymous
08-26-2007, 07:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by salma888
AoA everyone,

I was searching on the Internet recently and surprisingly found a lot of stuff on Muslim matrimonial. Many sites have been made exclusively for Muslims where you can go, make a profile of your own and then receive a lot of emails and messages from potential partners. But is it really successful?

You may want to tell us your experiences if you have been a part of these sites. For those who want to know the secrets to successful online meeting and ending up being married to the right Muslim, there's a very useful ebook on this topic, The Right Muslim.

Let's hear your stories!

Salma

P.S. The URL to downloading the ebook is http://www.rightmuslim.com/

Do you think finding the right marriage partner online is possible?

No :D:)
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alibaba
08-29-2007, 05:52 PM
I met wonderful people online. Marriable people. But my wife would not be happy if I took a second
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AnonymousPoster
09-01-2007, 10:46 AM
sallam every one, i dont think its a good idea:eek: :muddlehea :grumbling
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sevgi
09-01-2007, 10:49 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by alibaba
I met wonderful people online. Marriable people. But my wife would not be happy if I took a second
^o) :skeleton:

u went looking knwing ur wife wudnt let? or jsut 'happend' to stumble upon nice sisters...

did they know they were gna be seconds? if yes,,,i doubt that they were as 'marriable' as u think...
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sevgi
09-01-2007, 10:53 AM
besides that...

i think it is perfectly plausible to find a partner on the net...no i dnt have any experience whatsoever...but...

theoretically speaking...one may get to know another quite well over the internet...keeping to the vitality of meeting eachother in person and getting to know them as a physical being..im sure it can work out...

wen one is on the net looking for a spouse on these sites, everyone else has the same intentions..so its easy to be picky and find someone u actually are inetersted in...

but thats jst my view...

peace.
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salma888
09-03-2007, 07:18 PM
absolutely right!
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Intisar
09-03-2007, 07:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
:sl: Right firstly i disagree coz im sure in Islam 'love marriage' aint allowed im i correct?[/B]
:w: Really? Anyone have any daleels to back this up? ^o)

As for your question Salma, to be honest I wouldn't know because I haven't tried it out but, if it follows the rules of Islam, then it could work right? :)
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Md Mashud
09-03-2007, 07:29 PM
You can yes, but equally you can find the wrong person online.
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Kittygyal
09-03-2007, 07:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sister-Ameena*
:w: Really? Anyone have any daleels to back this up? ^o)

As for your question Salma, to be honest I wouldn't know because I haven't tried it out but, if it follows the rules of Islam, then it could work right? :)
:sl:
Read it propley, i asked if i was correct or not.

ANywho nvm
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Intisar
09-03-2007, 07:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
:sl:
Read it propley, i asked if i was correct or not.

ANywho nvm
:w: And that's why I asked if anyone could get a daleel to back it up. I just wanted to know. I wasn't saying it personally to you or anything ukhtee. :)
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S_87
09-03-2007, 08:23 PM
:sl:

well ive heard of a few marriages from the net, like in other cases theres a right way and wrong way.
theres this site from the same people behind fatwa-online,madeenah.com etc

www.smatch.net
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salma888
09-28-2007, 02:07 PM
If you stay within limits I think it's a good chance for all those single and a little over age people to find prospective partners. Good sites are also available.
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.: Jannati :.
09-30-2007, 10:02 PM
matrimonial sites? too much dodgyness and fitnah with a little bit of 'ewww'-Ness. The cons just vastly outweigh the pro's to this type of thing.
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