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chaste
08-23-2007, 08:32 PM
:sl: does any one know when laitul- bharat is? i know there are ppl out there who say it's wrong. but i think is it wrong to be worshipping for Allahs sake? to get some reward? there are some ppl who hardly make any effort towards worship maybe they can gain some reward this night? anyway Allah knows best. and can someone plz answer my 1st question. :smile:
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 08:40 PM
ITS ON MONDAY BANK HOLIDAY!!! :D :D gettin a lil hyped eh :shade:
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chacha_jalebi
08-23-2007, 08:42 PM
salaam

from mandems understandin lailat bharaat = the miraaj

we should be worshippin Allah (swt) anyway, no one during the Prophets (sal Allah hu aleyhi wasalam) time celebrated the miraaj and neither did the sahaba, so neither do we need too :D
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi
salaam

from mandems understandin lailat bharaat = the miraaj

we should be worshippin Allah (swt) anyway, no one during the Prophets (sal Allah hu aleyhi wasalam) time celebrated the miraaj and neither did the sahaba, so neither do we need too :D
wasalaam

na rokhtho, the miraaj - laylatul mi'raaj,

laylatul baraat - somethin else :shade:


and akhee, start acceptin differences of opinion, it'll do u good ;)


say , the opinion i accept accordin to ::: if u gnna say somethin :)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 09:06 PM
http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/shabraat.htm

check it out :)
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sapphire
08-23-2007, 09:10 PM
for us its the night between monday and tuesday(next week)....ummm for london tho its the night between tuesday and wednessday (as far as ive heard from east london)....basically 15th sha'baan.....(i thinkkk thats right^)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by sapphire
for us its the night between monday and tuesday(next week)....ummm for london tho its the night between tuesday and wednessday (as far as ive heard from east london)....basically 15th sha'baan.....(i thinkkk thats right^)
nope sis im from london and i jus checked, its next week monday night/tuesday morning
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Kittygyal
08-23-2007, 09:19 PM
erm confuzzled what happens this night/day? :uuh:
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Pk_#2
08-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I think out of these nights, laylatul-Qadr is the only one prophet (sallahu alayhi wasalam) celebrated.

Buh laylatul Miraj wow, the ascension to heaven Alhamdhulillah, that day makes you think..

Peace. i duno what im chatting...find your own dhaleels.
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S_87
08-23-2007, 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by chaste
:sl: does any one know when laitul- bharat is? i know there are ppl out there who say it's wrong. but i think is it wrong to be worshipping for Allahs sake? to get some reward? there are some ppl who hardly make any effort towards worship maybe they can gain some reward this night? anyway Allah knows best. and can someone plz answer my 1st question. :smile:
:sl:

its bidah to single out the night, check this thread out :)



http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/476...be-baraat.html
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Salaam
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
wasalaam

na rokhtho, the miraaj - laylatul mi'raaj,

laylatul baraat - somethin else :shade:

and akhee, start acceptin differences of opinion, it'll do u good ;)

say , the opinion i accept accordin to ::: if u gnna say somethin :)
:sl:, this is not a matter of difference of opinion, the prophet (saw) did not do it, nor did he ask anyone to do it, nor did the noble campanions do it. If you can show any sahih hadith that they did, i would love to see it.
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Pk_#2
08-23-2007, 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Salaam
:sl:, this is not a matter of difference of opinion, the prophet (saw) did not do it, nor did he ask anyone to do it, nor did the noble campanions do it. If you can show any sahih hadith that they did, i would love to see it.
Yeah

and like sis Amani sed u shudn't single it out,

dua's and prayers are for everyday unless the prophet said to do extra stuff (satying up all night) on a seperate night e.g. laylatul Qadr :)

:-\ :-[ :D
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Salaam
:sl:, this is not a matter of difference of opinion, the prophet (saw) did not do it, nor did he ask anyone to do it, nor did the noble campanions do it. If you can show any sahih hadith that they did, i would love to see it.
*sighs* but this will just get deleted :(

It is clearly stated in the fiqh works of the madhhabs that it is recommended to worship on this night. Even Ibn Taymiyya says this.

1. Imam Haskafi said in his Durr al-Mukhtar, one of the primary references in the Hanafi school:

"Among the recommended [prayers] are on. . . . the nights of the two Eids, the middle of Sha`ban, the last ten of Ramadan, and the first [ten] of Dhul-Hijjah."

2. Ibn Taymiyya was asked about the prayer of mid-Sha`ban [i.e. the night of].

He answered:

If a person prays that night alone, or in a select congregation, as many groups (tawaif) of the Early Muslims used to do, it is very good.

As for gathering in the mosque for a particular fixed prayer, such as gather for 100 rakats in which 1,000 QulhuwaAllahuAhad are read every time, this is a reprehensible innovation, which none of the imams have allowed. [Ibn Taymiyya, al-Fatawa al-Kubra, 2; 222-138]

3. This corresponds to what Imam Nawawi mentioned in his Majmu`, where he also quoted Imam al-Shafi`i from the latters al-Umm that it has reached him that there are 5 nights when dua is answered, one of them being the night of the 15th of Sha`ban.

Note, of course, that the night of the 15th is the night before it.

It is reported from Sayyiduna `Ali (Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: "Let all of you spend the night of mid-Sha`ban in worship (i.e. partly) and its day in fasting. Allah descends to the nearest heaven during this night, beginning with sunset, and says: Is there no one asking forgiveness that I may forgive them? Is there no one asking sustenance that I may grant them sustenance? Is there no one under trial that I may relieve them? Is there not such-and-such, is there not such-and-such, and so forth until until dawn rises. [Narrated by Ibn Majah with a weak chain.]

There are many other narrations from the Companions and early Muslims confirming this matter, as mentioned by Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali in his Lataif al-Ma`arif, and others.

There is general consensus that weak hadiths may be acted upon for virtuous acts, such as voluntary fasting and prayer, as long as the hadith is not excessively weak, returns to a general basis in the Shariah, and one is not convinced that the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) specifically prescribed it.

And Allah alone gives success.

Wassalam,
Faraz Rabbani
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Pk_#2
08-23-2007, 10:55 PM
:offended::offended::offended:
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S_87
08-23-2007, 11:03 PM
:sl:

as for that, there is no sahih hadith.. weak and fabricated yes but sahih?
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-23-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by amani
:sl:

as for that, there is no sahih hadith.. weak and fabricated yes but sahih?
There are many other narrations from the Companions and early Muslims confirming this matter, as mentioned by Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali in his Lataif al-Ma`arif, and others.

There is general consensus that weak hadiths may be acted upon for virtuous acts, such as voluntary fasting and prayer, as long as the hadith is not excessively weak, returns to a general basis in the Shariah, and one is not convinced that the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) specifically prescribed it.
ukhtee fil islam is a sahih hadeeth required when so many past scholars have agreed to the merits of this night?
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Pk_#2
08-23-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
ukhtee fil islam is a sahih hadeeth required when so many past scholars have agreed to the merits of this night?
:D

:muddlehea

:shade:
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chaste
08-23-2007, 11:25 PM
jazakhallakhair for that brothers and sisters. anyway i'll pray for all InshaAllah:thankyou:
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S_87
08-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
ukhtee fil islam is a sahih hadeeth required when so many past scholars have agreed to the merits of this night?
:sl:
many past scholars have also agreed that milad un nabi is a cause for celebration and special duas. :)
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