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AnonymousPoster
08-30-2007, 01:12 AM
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can a woman fast while menstruating? I have read a difference in opinion, one being yes she may since Ramadan comes but once a year so she might as well. I don't know about the legitimacy of this?
I find myself having to be under the false pretense of fasting anyway, that I end up fasting. First at work everyone knows why you are fasting and the reasons why a woman isn't fasting obviously no one wishes to publicize their issues; which means you find yourself some crevice to hide or publicly humiliate yourself for a natural physiological function.

And if it happens to fall on the weekend then one has to be under the false pretense for the family, including getting up early for sihoor when one is exhausted, headachy and bloated.
hadiths on the matter would be appreciated
thank you
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Ummu Sufyaan
08-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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i know that it invalidates her fast (see fatwa 38023 on islam-qa.com), whether she can, im not sure.
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*~Sofia~*
08-30-2007, 12:04 PM
Salam sister,

I found the following link regarding the issue...

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...%20on%20period

it states that a women should not fast while mensturating as it is not valid.. however, the link i gave doesn't have any hadiths that supports this. sorry

hope it helps tho, ill try looking for some hadiths regarding the issue too.. so get bak to you soon inshallah :)

w'salam
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Pk_#2
08-30-2007, 12:12 PM
AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

Consider it a break, don't fast and make up for it.

Q: Does a woman on menstruation (Haydh) or post-natal bleeding (Nifas) have to make up for the fasts missed?
A: Yes, she will have to make Qadha for the missed fasts.

- Muhammed Ibn Adam

Sayyida Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) said, “When we used to enter menstruation we were commanded to make up the fast and we were not commanded to make up the prayer.” [Muslim]


AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.
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Ummu Sufyaan
08-31-2007, 10:00 AM
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sis, this should help, inshallah


Why is fasting haraam for menstruating women?
Question No 50330
Question:
We would like to know the reason why menstruating women do not fast even though fasting has nothing to do with impurity.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

The believer has to submit to the ruling of Allaah and accept it even if he does not know the reason behind it; rather it should be sufficient for him that Allaah and His Messenger have commanded it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error”

[al-Ahzaab 33:36]

“The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allaah (His Words, the Qur’aan) and His Messenger , to judge between them, is that they say: ‘We hear and we obey.’ And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise)”

[al-Noor 24:51]

Secondly:

The believer should believe with certainty of faith that Allaah is Wise and that He does prescribe anything except in accordance with His ultimate wisdom, and He does not enjoin anything except that which is in people’s best interests and He does not forbid anything except to protect people from its harm and evil. How well Ibn Katheer put it in al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (6/79) when he said:

The law of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the most complete of laws; it did not leave any good thing that is recognized by the wise as being good but it enjoined it, and it did not leave any evil thing that is recognized by the wise as being evil but it forbade it. It has not enjoined anything of which people could say, ‘Would that this were not enjoined,’ and it has not forbidden anything of which people could say, ‘Would that this were not forbidden.’

We may understand the reasons, or they may be hidden from us, and most or part of them may be hidden from us.

Thirdly:

The scholars are unanimously agreed that it is forbidden for a menstruating woman to fast, and that she has to make up the days that she misses because of menstruation if that was an obligatory fast, as in Ramadaan.

They are also agreed that if she does fast, her fast is not valid.
See question no. 50282.

The scholars differed as to the reason why the fast of a menstruating woman is not valid.

Some of them said that the reason is not known to us.

Imam al-Haramayn said: We do not know why her fast is not valid, because purity is not a prerequisite for it.

From al-Majmoo’, 2/386.

Others said: The reason why Allaah has forbidden menstruating women to fast at the time of their period is out of mercy towards them, because loss of blood weakens them and if a woman were to fast when menstruating, she would be weakened both by menstruation and by fasting, in which case fasting would be an unfair burden and may even be harmful.

Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah] said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (25/234):

With regard to menstruation we say:

Islam brings moderation in all things, and going to extremes in worship is a kind of unfairness that the Lawgiver forbids, and commands us to be moderate in worship. Hence Islam tells us to hasten breaking the fast and to delay suhoor, and it forbids continual fasting. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best and most moderate of fasting is the fast of Dawood (peace be upon him). He used to fast alternate days and he would not flee when meeting the enemy.” Moderation in worship is one of the greatest aims of the Lawgiver. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Make not unlawful the Tayyibaat (all that is good as regards foods, things, deeds, beliefs, persons) which Allaah has made lawful to you, and transgress not. Verily, Allaah does not like the transgressors”

[al-Maa'idah 5:67]

Forbidding permitted things is regarded as a transgression which goes against moderation. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“For the wrongdoing of the Jews, We made unlawful for them certain good foods which had been lawful for them — and for their hindering many from Allaah’s Way;

161. And their taking of Ribaa (usury) though they were forbidden from taking it”

[al-Nisa’ 4:160]

Because they went astray, they were punished by being forbidden good things, unlike the ummah that follows the middle way, for whom good things are allowed and bad things are forbidden. As this is the case, the fasting person is forbidden to eat and drink things that strengthen him and nourish him, and he is forbidden to deliberately cause his body to eject things that may weaken him. Otherwise if he were allowed to do that, he would be a transgressor and one who goes to extremes in his worship, and he would not be moderate.

Things that come out of the body are of two types. The first type is those that are unavoidable or which come out in a manner that does not cause any harm. There is nothing wrong with these, like urine and stools, because they do not cause any harm and they cannot be avoided. If they need to come out, that does not harm a person, rather it benefits him; the same applies if a person vomits and cannot help it, or experiences a wet dream, which also cannot be helped. But if a person vomits deliberately and ejects the food and drink that give him nourishment, or masturbates accompanied by feelings of desire … and the menstruation that causes blood to flow. A menstruating women can fast at a time other than the times when she is bleeding, because then she will be fasting at a time when she is in a good state, when she is not losing blood which gives strength to the body. Fasting at the time when she is bleeding would weaken her physically and would mean that she is fasting at a time when she is not in a good state, so she is commanded to fast at times other than menstruation.
Islam Q&A
http://islam-qa.com/special/index.ph...eng&subsite=16
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AnonymousPoster
08-31-2007, 05:35 PM
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it isn't valid, but if you happen to fast anyway because you had no break, it wouldn't matter? it is just not a valid fast, but you have committed no sin and you can just make it up later?
Thank you all
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chaste
08-31-2007, 10:53 PM
i really can't remember where i read it but i belive you will still have to make up for the fasts even though you think you fasted during the menstruation
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Intisar
08-31-2007, 11:19 PM
:w: During Ramadan whilst it was that time of the month, my mother told me that I didn't have to fast but I had to make it up when Ramadan was over. But here is a hadeeth, insha'allah it is beneficial for you. :D

Volume 1, Book 6, Number 314:

Narrated 'Aisha:
On the 1st of Dhul-Hijja we set out with the intention of performing Hajj. Allah's Apostle said, "Any one who likes to assume the Ihram for 'Umra he can do so. Had I not brought the Hadi with me, I would have assumed the Ihram for 'Umra. "Some of us assumed the Ihram for 'Umra while the others assumed the Ihram for Hajj. I was one of those who assumed the Ihram for 'Umra. I got menses and kept on menstruating until the day of 'Arafat and complained of that to the Prophet . He told me to postpone my 'Umra, undo and comb my hair, and to assure the Ihram of Hajj and I did so. On the right of Hasba, he sent my brother 'Abdur-Rahman bin Abi Bakr with me to At-Tah'im, where I assumed the Ihram for'Umra in lieu of the previous one. Hisham said, "For that ('Umra) no Hadi, fasting or alms were required. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 6)
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