Israeli soccer fans curse Prophet

[yigiter187]

Israeli soccer fans curse Prophet
A Turkish reporter who joined Maccabi Tel Aviv's trip to Turkey records group of fans singing songs against Prophet Muhammad and Muslims.
Some bloody idiot hooligans - 30 / 08 / 2007 18:03


TV channel decides to shelve video in order to avoid possible flare-up

A serious and potentially dangerous diplomatic incident between Israel and Turkey was prevented Wednesday, after a national Turkish TV channel agreed not to broadcast a video showing Israeli soccer fans cursing the Prophet Muhammad.

The network decided to shelve the tape following appeals from senior governmenat officials.

The video was filmed by a Turkish reporter of Channel 24, Elif Ural, who accompanied the Maccabi Tel Aviv soccer team on its flight from Israel to the Turkish town of Kayseri, where it is scheduled to play against local team Erciyesspor Thursday evening.

A group of fans who were on the plane with the team were caught on video singing songs against Prophet Muhammad and Muslims.

Ural, who has been living in Israel for the past three years as the network's Mideast correspondent, was deeply offended by what she witnessed and heard, and by the club's officials' failure to intervene and put an end to the offensive behavior.

"The decision not to broadcast the video was the right one and I don’t have a problem with it," Ural said.

"There is really no need to risk relations between Israel and Turkey because of 10 idiots. I understood that if the incident is published, the potential for a violent outbreak at the stadium and in the city could grow significantly. But what I felt on the plane would be very hard to forget."

Ural plans to speak with the club's chairman, Lonnie Hercikowicz, and complain about the incident.

"He needs to make it clear to his people that they should be no less committed than him to civility and mutual respect," she stated.

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[yigiter187]

but erciyessport club (turkey) eliminated maccabi from the uefa cup..their efforts became vain...

[rachamim]

First, if true, it is despicable.

Second, I highly doubt it ever happened. Why? First, if it had, it would rate as a true international stroy and amke the career of the reporter on the plane. Second, Israel has the strongest hate law on the planet. Had it happened the people doing it would not only face long prion terms, they would get them, as have almost 500 other Israeli Jews. The law applies to any Israeli, overseas or otherwise.

[Cognescenti]

If it wasn't the players, coaches or management of the team then it is a non-story in my eyes. They should simply charter the jet without fans.

Is anyone really surprised there might be a few in Israel with racist views? Let's get real. Palestinian TV broadcasts shocking anti-Jewish propaganda to children.

NEWS FLASH! RACISM ALIVE AND WELL IN MIDEAST!

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[SATalha]

Like in most cases footaball hooligans just will say anything to make sure they leave their mark on their enemies. But to go to a Muslim country and to do this? Thats a bit stupid.......and i dont seem to recall abuse of this sort anywhere else (as in dissing religion). Fact is racist stupid people exist and you can only do so much.

[Bittersteel]

well nothing uncommon.Arabs say stuff to Israelis,Israelis insult Arabs,Europeans or other Asians insult Jews,etc.some sort of a circle.and circles have no beginning or end.

[SATalha]

Yeah football fans tend to be a bit.......backwards......the hooligans i mean. Plus when you got Israeli fans going to a muslim country......mix a bit of alcohal and what do you get......:rollseyes

[Trumble]

A small bunch of idiots.. but among football 'supporters' that's hardly the first. If something like that actually could lead to "a potentially dangerous diplomatic incident" we really are in trouble.

[SATalha]

A small bunch of idiots.. but among football 'supporters' that's hardly the first. If something like that actually could lead to "a potentially dangerous diplomatic incident" we really are in trouble.

This sort of behaviour should be expected in a football match.....the fans will say anything to intimidate the other fans or players. :heated:. But you have to say that football has come along way.....30-40 years back it was a diffiren story, especialy in the UK.

[Bittersteel]

seeing what happened in the past,it there is a chance something big might happen over this small issue.

[SATalha]

seeing what happened in the past,it there is a chance something big might happen over this small issue.

Realy? :? I mean its an obviously a stupid thing to do also a very stupid thing, seen as they where in a Muslim country. But this shouldnt be turned in to some international uproar.

[guyabano]

well nothing uncommon.Arabs say stuff to Israelis,Israelis insult Arabs,Europeans or other Asians insult Jews,etc.some sort of a circle.and circles have no beginning or end.

You are so right, it's nothing special. You never saw, when UK hooligans yell 'Sieg Heil' in an german stade.

Life goes on. This is just an incident among others in soccer

[Bittersteel]

But this shouldnt be turned in to some international uproar.

ahem,the Danish cartoons?Okay it's a different situation true.

[SATalha]

ahem,the Danish cartoons?Okay it's a different situation true.

nah this is way to small to cause any offence......Ignorant stupid people should be ignored. This will show them the best way.:shade:

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

Yes you are right,when the Prophet is insulted,walk away.

Casue such people are not to be listened to nor acknoledged,they should just be left alone and to continue their ridicule.

and we who claim to muslim should just ignore and accept the fact that our beloved Prophet is being maligned and we walk away..

So continue to walk away and with every step you walk away from faith and Allah.

[wilberhum]

You are so right, it's nothing special. You never saw, when UK hooligans yell 'Sieg Heil' in an german stade.

Life goes on. This is just an incident among others in soccer

Great analigy.

I'm still trying to understand why any one would think a bunch of Israeli soccer fans would not curse him. :-\

[yigiter187]

the sun cannoot be covered with mud

[SATalha]

Salaam,

Yes you are right,when the Prophet is insulted,walk away.

Casue such people are not to be listened to nor acknoledged,they should just be left alone and to continue their ridicule.

and we who claim to muslim should just ignore and accept the fact that our beloved Prophet is being maligned and we walk away..

So continue to walk away and with every step you walk away from faith and Allah.

You know these people aint even worth the bother. The best we can do is keep promoting the good teachings of our beloved phrophet (peace and blessing be upon him) Bro iam sure you have read Surah Yaseen.......know what i mean. Some people are just impossible to talk to.

[KAding]

ahem,the Danish cartoons?Okay it's a different situation true.

I'm sure the Israelis will be shocked about all the Muslims demonstrating against them and burning their flag :okay:. The real question is: will anyone notice the difference?

BTW, isn't Turkey the only Muslim country were the Israeli football teams are welcome? Or isn't it that bad anymore? I always found it interesting that Israeli teams played in the European football leagues.

[yigiter187]

erciyessport club(second league team in turkey) eliminated macabi from uefa cup..perhaps allah helped very weak team erciyessport to win maccabi who cursed MOHAMMED (S.AV.)

[Zulkiflim]

You know these people aint even worth the bother. The best we can do is keep promoting the good teachings of our beloved phrophet (peace and blessing be upon him) Bro iam sure you have read Surah Yaseen.......know what i mean. Some people are just impossible to talk to.

Salaam,

Without even trying you say they are a bothersome people.

We muslim perform dakwah and defend the faith and the Prophet.

In no way can we allow other to malign our Propeht.

If a group or a people were to ridicule in the presence of a muslim,if the muslim remain silent,then they will say,....SEE EVEN THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANGRY OVER THEIR PROPHET.

So i say again,...

Making excuses to practise the faith is easy enough
To not make excuses and to do it is difficult.

As the saying goes,any fool cna make a baby,only a MAN can raise one.

So walk away ,walk away...make excuses..

It will become easier as time goes,as the non muslim excalete the mockery of the Prophet...just walk away.

They say the first step is the hardest...but it already sets the path..

[Amadeus85]

BTW, isn't Turkey the only Muslim country were the Israeli football teams are welcome? Or isn't it that bad anymore? I always found it interesting that Israeli teams played in the European football leagues.

Yes and Israel takes part in European Cup.

[yigiter187]

Yes and Israel takes part in European Cup.

ı cant get the point that israel plays in uefa....

[backbencher]

Marhaba Zulkiflim,

"In no way can we allow other to malign our Propeht."

Ummm, beggin' your pardon sir, how do you propose to prevent non-Muslims from maligning your Prophet?

FARMERS FIGHT!

backbencher

[Zman]

ı cant get the point that israel plays in uefa....

:sl:

The Asians (Continent-wide) refuse to play with Israel and won't be grouped with them. So, the other alternative is to make Israel part of the European competition...

[rachamim]

ZMan: Asians do not prevent anything. West Asians, meaning Islamic nations DO. We are actually loved in East Asia aside from Malaysia and Indonesia for obvious reasons. Their loss.

[yigiter187]

ZMan: Asians do not prevent anything. West Asians, meaning Islamic nations DO. We are actually loved in East Asia aside from Malaysia and Indonesia for obvious reasons. Their loss.

do u know pini felix balili......

[SATalha]

Salaam,

Without even trying you say they are a bothersome people.

We muslim perform dakwah and defend the faith and the Prophet.

In no way can we allow other to malign our Propeht.

If a group or a people were to ridicule in the presence of a muslim,if the muslim remain silent,then they will say,....SEE EVEN THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANGRY OVER THEIR PROPHET.

So i say again,...

Making excuses to practise the faith is easy enough
To not make excuses and to do it is difficult.

As the saying goes,any fool cna make a baby,only a MAN can raise one.

So walk away ,walk away...make excuses..

It will become easier as time goes,as the non muslim excalete the mockery of the Prophet...just walk away.

They say the first step is the hardest...but it already sets the path..

In no way am i saying that we should not do anything about it? Rather the best thing would be to try to teach them about the misconceptions that they have. I think you misunderstood me bro, you make out as if i would just sit there while someone disses our Phrophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Also I am not making excuses rather i feel pity for the people that mock the Phrophet (peace and blessings be upon him), to know that these people are missing out in great lessons and teachings is something to pity. And when they mock thats more of a sad sight. The honor and respect that people have for our Phrophet will always remain and it is our duty to maintain this Honour and respect and also spread his teachings to all.

[Cognescenti]

erciyessport club(second league team in turkey) eliminated macabi from uefa cup..perhaps allah helped very weak team erciyessport to win maccabi who cursed MOHAMMED (S.AV.)

Perhaps Allah willed it to happen :)

[yigiter187]

Perhaps Allah willed it to happen :)

allah willed what?

the curse of MOHAMMED by israelis or the elimination of maccabi by erciyes sport

[rachamim]

On Pini, I used to watch him play for Hapoel. Good man. He is in Turkey now.

[yigiter187]

On Pini, I used to watch him play for Hapoel. Good man. He is in Turkey now.

he plays for the team of my hometown-sivassport---he is like "road-runner":D ı will watch him tonight at the match at stadium.. we love pini balili...:peace:

[Cognescenti]

allah willed what?

the curse of MOHAMMED by israelis or the elimination of maccabi by erciyes sport

The elimination of the Israeli team, of course. :D

[MadeenJibreel]

First, if true, it is despicable.

Second, I highly doubt it ever happened. Why? First, if it had, it would rate as a true international stroy and amke the career of the reporter on the plane. Second, Israel has the strongest hate law on the planet. Had it happened the people doing it would not only face long prion terms, they would get them, as have almost 500 other Israeli Jews. The law applies to any Israeli, overseas or otherwise.

Are you trying to make somebody look like a fool or what?
Do you have any idea how many people were slaughtered, killed one way or the other, how many women brutally raped, tortured, etc. in Bosna for example? Do you know how many eye-witnesses there are still alive out there? Not only eye-witnesses, but people who went thru all this? Majority of these cases never came to Haag, not they will, and Haag and international community had better view on what happened and yet they didn't react. Why not? Well because of people who think like you. Nooooo, it never happened. Nothing can espace our eyes, we see everything. I'm pretty sure they closed their eyes on many of these cases, just as you're closing your eyes right now.

[MadeenJibreel]

Are you trying to make somebody look like a fool or what?
Do you have any idea how many people were slaughtered, killed one way or the other, how many women brutally raped, tortured, etc. in Bosna for example? Do you know how many eye-witnesses there are still alive out there? Not only eye-witnesses, but people who went thru all this? Majority of these cases never came to Haag, not they will, and Haag and international community had better view on what happened and yet they didn't react. Why not? Well because of people who think like you. Nooooo, it never happened. Nothing can espace our eyes, we see everything. I'm pretty sure they closed their eyes on many of these cases, just as you're closing your eyes right now.

PS Your doubt is no good. Either prove that it didn't happen or don't talk about it. No offense, but that's how it should be.

[MTAFFI]

10 israeli bigots on a place cause so much news
10 turkish bigots would no doubt cause the same amount if they did the same

Problem: What about the people who are not bigots striving on a daily basis for peace in Israel and Palestine and throughout the mideast, but get no media coverage?

Shame on these men for cursing the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh), they should be repremanded by their superiors and suspended for a time for inciting such turmoil, knowing where they are from and who they were around. Blatant bigotry and pure ignorance

[NoName55]

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[MadeenJibreel]

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