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maroon1
09-01-2007, 08:53 PM
I have two questions and I want some Muslims to answer.....


1-Would all Non-Muslims go to hell for eternity according to Islam ?


2- If a Muslim don't pray, and don't practice his religion at all, but he believes in God and that Mohamed is messenger of God, would that Muslim go to hell for eternity or he will go to hell temporary and then to heaven ?
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Muhammad
09-03-2007, 05:13 PM
Greetings maroon1,

format_quote Originally Posted by maroon1
1-Would all Non-Muslims go to hell for eternity according to Islam ?
Whoever denies Allah, or worships something else besides Him, or takes other gods instead of Him, or says that He has a wife or son, or that the angels are His daughters, or follows a law other than that which He revealed to judge between people in truth, or turns away from His religion, will be doomed in the Hereafter to the eternal punishment of Hell.

However, it is part of the justice of Allah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allah does not treat anybody unfairly. A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”
According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.”
(The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881).
So everyone who hears the message of Islam in a sound and correct form (and rejects it), will have evidence aginst him. Whoever dies without having heard the message, or having heard it in a distorted form, then his case is in the hands of Allah. Allah knows best about His creation, and He will never treat anyone unfairly. And Allah is All-Seer of His slaves.

There is another thread about this topic which contains other useful links, which can be found here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/discover...nter-hell.html

2- If a Muslim don't pray, and don't practice his religion at all, but he believes in God and that Mohamed is messenger of God, would that Muslim go to hell for eternity or he will go to hell temporary and then to heaven ?
With regards to sinners such as the one who kills a person unlawfully, the one who commits adultery, the one who disobeys his parents, the one who consumes interest, the one who drinks alcohol and so on; if they die in their sin and they are Muslims, then they are subject to the will of Allah, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills…”

[al-Nisa’ 4:48]

So if Allah wills, He will forgive them because of the righteous deeds with which they died, such as their believing in Allah alone (Tawheed), their sincerity towards Allah and their being Muslims, or because of the intercession of those who intercede for them, as well as their Tawheed and sincerity.

Or Allah may punish them with a temporary abiding in Hell, in a manner commensurate with their sin, and then He will bring them forth therefrom.

With specific regards to those who don't pray, then there is a difference of opinion on this matter. Prayer is the greatest pillar of Islam after the testimony of faith, and whoever does not pray will have his good deeds rejected. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "What is between a person and committing shirk (associating partners with Allaah) and kufr (disbelief) is abandoning the prayer." (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2766. Classed as saheeh by Ibn Maajah, 1078, and by al-Albaani).

Therefore some scholars hold that a person who abandons his prayer is out of the fold of Islam, and what was mentioned earlier regarding only temporary punishment in Hell may not apply in this case. The other scholarly opinion is that the person who neglects prayer is still a Muslim but has very weak faith.

I hope this has helped to answer your questions, and Allaah, Exalted be He, knows best.

Peace.
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Michael
09-04-2007, 12:45 AM
I asked this question to one of the guys at Islam Awareness Week. He said 'yes'. At first I thought he was just joking, but then I realised he was serioius.
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Muslim_person
09-08-2007, 12:01 PM
http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=topics
http://www.muslimconverts.com
http://www.islamtoday.com
http://www.55a.net/firas/english
http://www.islamunveiled.org
http://www.islam-guide.com
http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam
http://islamtomorrow.com
http://www.qurancomplex.com/default.asp?l=eng
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Ta...eng&nAya=1#1_1
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng
http://www.sultan.org
http://www.beconvinced.com/en/main.php
http://www.islamdoor.com/Yusuf.htm
http://www.islamhouse.com/s/9661
http://www.islamhouse.com
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muslimguitarist
02-07-2008, 07:32 PM
it is up to Allah to judge who is a good person. for allah knows that we can't judge someone because they haven't heard the word of islam thats simply not fair.
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02-13-2008, 02:41 PM
:salamext:

Everyone has heard of Islaam. There isn't a generation before Muhammad (SAW) 's generation that hasn't been sent any guidance.
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rabarbara2008
02-13-2008, 04:34 PM
yeah it's hard to hear something like that especially if you are a muslim convert and your family is not...
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hifisher
02-15-2008, 08:29 AM
believers in quran doesn't mean muslims alone. those who are with books if practised the religion in its real state (as mentioned in books ) are believers.

muslim can marry a christian or a jew provided they practise the religion as in real state.
but due to lack of authenticity and otherside recognition muslims took stand of avoiding marriages with a christian or jew.

all non believers will go to hell, does not here mean non muslims. the message of oneness of god & prohibition of comparing god with other sub level living being is there for most of the millienium.

for eg there is a verse in tamil language which describes the character of shiva, as he has no start or no end and he is the light, & most merciful (written few milleniums back) there verses matches with arrahman & irraheem in arabic and also with what christians preach

source of message is same, period is different.

software is same & versions are different and producer of software wants to obsolete certain version does not mean that version practisioners are unwanted. practise the software as it is. that is what preached in islam.




format_quote Originally Posted by rabarbara2008
yeah it's hard to hear something like that especially if you are a muslim convert and your family is not...
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hamzahm
02-17-2008, 04:09 PM
Peace be to ALL following the GUIDANCE of Al-Quran and Sunnah

All Kaafiroon will be in the hellfire.. even Mother Theresa.

Hope this helps!
hmz
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true believer
02-18-2008, 04:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by maroon1
I have two questions and I want some Muslims to answer.....


1-Would all Non-Muslims go to hell for eternity according to Islam ?


2- If a Muslim don't pray, and don't practice his religion at all, but he believes in God and that Mohamed is messenger of God, would that Muslim go to hell for eternity or he will go to hell temporary and then to heaven ?

question NO1:yes all disbelievers Will go to hell for eternity

question NO2: if a muslim belives in Allah BUT doesnt practice islam
then yes, he will go to hell for a long time and after that muslim has paid for his or her sins, the muslim will then be allowed in jannah [heaven].

i dont want u to get confused so i'll explain it.
Allah didnt put us on earth for no reason, He put us on earth so we could
worship him. that is our only purpose in this world. this world is only temporary and we as muslims should be working toward the here-after. you as a muslim should not only belive in Allah, you shouldnt just be telling people
ur a good muslim and not act as one. you should be SHOWING ur belief in Allah as a muslim through ur prayers, u reading the quran, u reciting the beatiful words of the quran, u fasting in the name of Allah, u going to sleep in the name of Allah and u waking up in the name of Allah. every time u wake up, u should thank Allah and praise him for giving u another day and another chance to repent and be a better muslim.
hope dis cleared things up a bit:)
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Whatsthepoint
02-18-2008, 08:04 PM
So, a perfectly good person who happens to fail to understand how Islam is the truth (...) is doomed forever whereas a non-practicing muslim is only there to repent...
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BlackMamba
02-18-2008, 09:51 PM
لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُواْ اللّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللّهُ عَلَيهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ)
5:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. -

So if you do shirk then Allah will make Jannah haram on you.
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Vedad
02-18-2008, 10:16 PM
2- If a Muslim don't pray, and don't practice his religion at all, but he believes in God and that Mohamed is messenger of God, would that Muslim go to hell for eternity or he will go to hell temporary and then to heaven

Bismillah wa salatu wa salamu 'ala rasulillah

Merely belief is not enough, if belief would be enough, then Iblees (satan) would not be classed as kafir, because Iblees knows the truth, he believs in Allah, he might even have a sounder aqeedah than we!

There are scholars, many scholars from the past that made takfir on the one that leaves his prayers (doesn't pray at all without a reason)

It is even said that the Sahabas wouldnt call anyone kafir for leaving a deed except the one that left his prayer.

The Prophet said (which means): The covenant between us and them is prayer, so if anyone abandons it he has become a disbeliever. [Ahmad, Tirmidhee, Nasaa'ee]

And he also said (which means): What lies between a man and disbelief is the abandonment of prayer. [Muslim, Aboo Dawood, Nasaa'ee]

And he said (which means): If anyone abandons prayer deliberately then he has no claim upon Allaah. [Ibn Maajah, ADAB-AL-MUFRAD of Bukhaari, Tabaraani]

# When `Alee was asked about a women who did not pray, he said: "The one who does not pray is a disbeliever." [Tirmidhee, Haakim]

# Ibn Mas`ood (R) said: "The one who abandons the prayer has no religion." [Muhammad bin Nasr Al Mirwazee]

Ibraheem Al-Nakha`ee said: "The one who has abandoned the prayer has become a disbeliever." Aboo Ayyoob Al-Sakhtiyanee said something similar to this.
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Intisar
02-19-2008, 12:09 PM
:salamext: I'd just like to remind y'all that this is the ''Discover Islam'' section, not a discussion section, where you post queries regarding the deen.

You can continue. :)

I'd suggest you speak to a scholar about this as they have more sufficient knowledge about the deen than we do.
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02-20-2008, 04:45 PM
:salamext:

It is even said that the Sahabas wouldnt call anyone kafir for leaving a deed except the one that left his prayer.
Subhaan Allaah!!
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rabarbara2008
02-22-2008, 12:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AhLÄÄM
:salamext:



Subhaan Allaah!!

Yes i always find these discussions hard to grasp, about who to call a kafir.
I am still not sure if we as humans have the right to do so..
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hamzahm
02-23-2008, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rabarbara2008
Yes i always find these discussions hard to grasp, about who to call a kafir.
I am still not sure if we as humans have the right to do so..
Read Surah NISA verse 150-151 "Verily those who REJECT AND DENY ALLAH and HIS PROPHETS, and say 'we believe in some and reject some', and wish to take a way in between that, they are the TRUE KAAFIROON" (ungrateful, the rejectors and deniers of the truth, and the prohibiters of the good, they are sinful)

ALLAH knows best ..
hmz
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Intisar
02-23-2008, 10:33 PM
:sl: For the hadeeth that thirdwatch posted (I deleted his/her reply), there is a thread that refers to it, here. :)

This is a reminder to everyone to not make their own interpretations of ayaahs of the Quraan and hadeeths (or any sort of other daleels) as they should be left to the scholars. Subhan Allaah, scholars spend their whole lives making tafseers of the entire Quraan, and for someone with little to no knowledge of Islaam to make such a baseless assumption is more than ridiculous. That is the reason why I deleted thirdwatch's reply. This can lead to bad implications for those just wanting to ''Discover Islam''. So from now, keep your ''opinions'' of the deen to yourselves inshaa Allaah.

This goes for me and everyone as well.

:w:
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Mikayeel
02-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Oke this surah explain this question perfectly subhanAllah!

By Al-'Asr (the time). (1) Verily, man is in loss, (2) Except those who believe (in Islâmic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth (i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al-Ma'ruf) which Allâh has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al-Munkar) which Allâh has forbidden), and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allâh's Cause during preaching His religion of Islâmic Monotheism or Jihâd). (3)
Surah Al asr

So u be a looser(u be in loss)(and possibly entering hell fire)

I you don't do the above

Allah knows best!
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