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zarhad
09-05-2007, 06:31 AM
I work 8-14 hours a day depending on the day, its very physical work requiring me to be on my feet the whole time some times running, lifting or going down up to 100 flights of stairs...its both physically and mentally draining.

we have a choise to work days or nights

my question is if during ramadan if i choose to work nights in order for my fast time to feel shorter ( will sleep from aprox 9 am to 3pm) does my fast still count
im not sure im strong enough to stand and sometimes even run in the sun for hours, last year i passed out and fell down some stairs from exercision

is it bad to become nocturnal during ramadan?
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zarhad
09-06-2007, 01:42 AM
help please
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zarhad
09-06-2007, 02:55 AM
thought i would get more responces by now :(
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syilla
09-06-2007, 03:01 AM
:salamext:

Sleeping does not nullify your fast ukhtee.

Is okay if you want to sleep if you feel tired.

Maybe this will help you out.

format_quote Originally Posted by taimur_9000
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Sleeping after Fajr and `Asr Prayers

Question:

As-Salamu `alaykum! I am a medical student and sometimes I go to bed after 2:00 a.m. Therefore, after I offer Fajr Prayer, I feel tired and go to sleep. Please tell me the ruling on sleeping after Fajr Prayer; is it haram (forbidden) or makruh (disliked)? Actually I don't like to sleep after Fajr, but I need to know the correct ruling if I face it. Also what about sleeping after `Asr Prayer? Jazaka Allah khayran.

Answer:

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, we are greatly pleased to receive your question, which shows the confidence you place in us. May Allah reward you abundantly for your interest in knowing the teachings of Islam!

First of all, we invoke Allah to grant you success in your studies and help you to become a successful Muslim doctor who benefits Islam and Muslims. Ameen.

As for the question you raised, you should know that there is nothing wrong in sleeping after Fajr, particularly if you feel tired because of studying at night. However, it was the practice of the Prophet and his Companions not to sleep after Fajr, as it is a time of blessing. Although it is permissible to spend the night in studying and to sleep after Fajr, we advise you to try to sleep early and study after Fajr, as it is a time of blessings and can better help you concentrate in your study. The blessing does not merely mean blessing in money and sustenance but it can be in knowledge as well as health, etc. Doing so, you will also be able to pray Fajr on time and never miss it due to late sleeping.

As for sleeping after `Asr, there is no evidence in the Qur’an or authentic hadith to prohibit it; and hence the general rule of permissibility of sleeping at these times is applicable.

Elaborating on this we’d like to cite for you the following Fatwa issued by Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, who states:

“As far as a person’s sleeping after praying Fajr is concerned, no text (of Qur’an or Sunnah) has been reported to indicate that this is prohibited, so the general principle applies (i.e., everything is permitted except that which has been expressly forbidden).

But the practice of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and his Companions after praying Fajr was to remain sitting in the place where they had prayed until the sun rose, as is reported in Sahih Muslim (1/463) in the hadith of Sammak ibn Harb, who said: I asked Jabir ibn Samurah, “Did you used to sit with the Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Yes, frequently. He would not get up from the place where he had prayed Subh (Morning Prayer) until the sun rose. When the sun rose, he would get up. They used to talk about things that had happened during the Jahiliyyah (pre-Islamic period), and they would laugh and smile.”

Also, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) asked his Lord to bless his Ummah in the mornings, as is reported in the hadith of Sakhr al-Ghamidi, who said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: ‘O Allah, bless my Ummah in the mornings.’ Whenever he sent out troops or an army, he would send them at the beginning of the day.” Sakhr was a trader, and he used to send out his caravans at the beginning of the day, and he did well as a result and made money. [Reported by Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah, with a chain of transmitters in which there is unknown narrator; corroborating evidence is to be found in a hadith narrated by `Ali, Ibn `Umar, Ibn `Abbas, Ibn Mas`ud and others (may Allah be pleased with them all).]

For this reason, some of the salaf (early Muslims) disliked the idea of sleeping after Fajr. Ibn Abi Shaybah reported in his Musannaf (5/222, no. 25442) with an authentic chain of transmitters from `Urwah ibn al-Zubayr that he said: “Al-Zubayr used to forbid his children to sleep in the morning.” `Urwah said: “I do not hear of any man who sleeps in the morning but I lose interest in that person.”

In brief, people should make the most of this time which can bring many benefits in this world and in the Hereafter, but if a person sleeps at this time to gain strength to do his work, there is nothing wrong with this, especially if it is not easy for him to sleep at any other time of the day. Ibn Abi Shaybah reported in his Musannaf (5/223, no. 25454) from the hadith of Abu Yazid al-Madini who said: “`Umar came to Suhayb one morning and found him sleeping, so he sat down until he woke up. Suhayb said: ‘The Commander of the Faithful is sitting in his place and Suhayb is sleeping!’ `Umar said to him: ‘I did not like to disturb your sleep that could be beneficial for you.’”

As for sleeping after `Asr, this is also permitted; there is no authentic hadith from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to indicate that sleeping at this time is prohibited.

As for the words, “Whoever sleeps after `Asr and loses his mind as a result has no one to blame but himself,” which are attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), this is a false hadith and there is no proof that these words were uttered by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him).

Commenting on this false hadith, Sheikh al-Albani writes: “Marwan [ibn Muhammad al-Asadi] said: I said to Layth ibn Sa`d – when I saw him sleep after `Asr during the month of Ramadan – ‘O Abul-Harith! Why are you sleeping after `Asr when Ibn Lahi`ah has told us … (and he mentioned the false hadith)?’ Al-Layth said: ‘I do not give up something that is good for me because of the hadith of Ibn Lahi`ah from `Aqil!’ I am impressed by this answer of al-Layth, because it is indicative of understanding and knowledge, and no wonder, for he was one of the imams of the Muslims and well known jurists.” (See: Al-Silsilah al-Da`ifah [hadith no. 39]).” [Source: www.islam-qa.com]

You can also read:

Islamic Etiquette of Sleeping

Hope that helps

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north_malaysian
09-06-2007, 06:45 AM
Everybody needs a good sleep in order to stay healthy ...

I think it's ok as long you're still observing the daytime prayers... Inshallah.. God understands you.
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nadia85
09-06-2007, 07:51 AM
My job is nearly like urs sis and I am thinking how will I manage,I could work nites but prefear not to with my family etc,hope we b ok inshallah
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zarhad
09-06-2007, 07:57 AM
yah i know me too luckly my husband works nights too if i didnt i wouldnt see him but it means alot of the time seeing no one else :(
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nadia85
09-06-2007, 08:01 AM
yeh thats right my hubby does not work nites so I dont like working nites I do sometimes but not if I can help it,If ur hubby works nites then It would b good if u work nites as well
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Malaikah
09-08-2007, 07:04 AM
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Sis I remember hearing somewhere that if you sleep most of the day your fast doesn't count, but I don't know if I heard correctly or not.

Can you take annual leave during ramadhan or something?
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mwaheedf
09-09-2007, 10:11 PM
salaam, i have a similar query, im 19 now mashallah and been working for 2 and a half years, i do 6-10 shifts in the evening and this ramadan got the last 2 weeks of it booked off. i asked my manager to put the shifts earlier because of travih and he declines. previous two years the other manager didnt have no problem doing so. just wondering on what i can do really... any advise like thanks
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Md Mashud
09-09-2007, 10:26 PM
Its perfectly acceptable, considering your circumstances, do not worry.
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Mpls_Muslim
09-10-2007, 11:50 AM
:sl: I too was in kinda the same position my first year of fasting, I am a Manit Tech for an apt complex and it is physical work, and I felt real sick the first few days, I just went to my boss (well that is a story I will save for a lter time) needless to say I do not work for him anymore.

Abdulah
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Rafeeq
09-16-2007, 08:19 PM
it is Ok to work in the night during Ramadhan
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