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Showkat
09-14-2007, 04:35 PM
12 Excuses why some Muslims don’t fast
By Showkat ali

We all know people who don’t fast and others who make excuses not to fast. The excuses below are not an exhaustive list but just some of the excuses which people give not to fast. The objective is not to ridicule individuals who are astray from Islam and victims of the predominant culture around us, but rather for us to be aware that not every single Muslim fasts and they all give different excuses which we should be able to refute and explain to them why they should fast.

In some cases confusion exists about fasting itself, and in others people are confused about their Islamic identity and belief itself.

1. I don’t pray so why should I fast

I normally just about attend jummah now and again and havn’t prayed in ages, well not quite ages, the last time I prayed was my dad’s janazah a few years ago. So why should I fast when I don’t even pray 5 time’s day?

2. it’s my choice, we live in a free country

Yes one of the things I love about Britain apart from its women, clubbing and booze is the fact that everyone can live and behave as they wish. Even parents can’t control your life after 16 and the police can only nick you if you break the law. So yes I choose not to fast, no law against not fasting is there?

3. It clashes with my exams

My exams are so so important, parents got expectations for me to do well and go and study medicine and become a Dr Saaab, and then go back home and marry the politician’s daughter and raise our family’s status sky high. Fasting is tough especially when I got exams, and when I fast I noticed that it’s hard to concentrate and do well in your exams.


4. I have a busy lifestyle and demanding job

My life is so stressful and busy; I got so many projects on the go. I start at 8 and finish at 8, and even work on my laptop on the train as well as bring work home. I suppose when your earning over 85k the company expects you to be fully committed and my boss told me at interview “ this aint a job, this is your life, so treat it accordingly”, and in all honesty I have, so I cant afford to fast a whole month. ‘God why couldn’t Ramadhan be for a few days over the bank holidays ‘


5. None of my mates fast

All my mates are integrated and proud to be British and don’t really bother with backward traditions from bong bongo land, we were born here and this is our country and its traditions are ours and fasting is so silly. “What’s the point of going without food and drink as well as sex for a whole month? “

6. I'm not ready for it yet

At the moment I’m just chilling and enjoying life, I’m only 25 so I got the whole of my life left until I die in my 80s, so what’s the rush for? I’ll start in a few years time and continue how I mean to go on

7. I only fast when the days are short
Fasting in the winter used to be so cool, I mean me and my mates would eat sehri and go to bed really late then wake up about 2pm and its nearly iftar time. We’d put on a DVD and before it’s over you hear the maghrib Azaan. Nowadays fasts are getting longer and even if you wake up at 2pm its still a long way to go. InshAllah when the fasts get shorter again in about 10 years time I’ll start fasting.

8. I've done about 16/17 I think it’s enough

I usually do about 16/17 just over the half way mark which I think is enough sacrifice for the religion, I know some people who do less so I am better than most people I know.

9. Its dangerous to fast and drive

Someone told me that its fard in Islam not to do anything that endangers your life as well as other peoples, so I drive a lot in my job and its dangerous to drive and fast, in case you cause an accident, so that’s my excuse why I don’t fast.

10. I get bad breath, cracked lips and look terrible
Yeah I’m very fashion conscious and cracked lips, bad breath and bags under my eyes make me look like an old bag, despite tons of make up. So I prefer to leave fasting until I get old, in which case looking terrible as a result of fasting wont matter since I will look terrible anyway.


11. I don’t want to put on any weight; I worked so hard to get a figure like this.

I always gain weight in Ramadhan no matter how little I eat for Sehri and iftar and my clothes become even tighter than usual. It seems a waste working hard to get a nice figure and then by fasting a whole month you lose it and its back to square one after Eid.


12. Non-Muslims say bad things and give sad looks

This really ps me off, when non-Muslims feel sorry for you and pity you and say “ ahh, they have to go without food and drink for their God”. Some even give you sad, pitying looks and the nasty ones talk about you in the canteen and say that I’m a fanatic. So to avoid all this I prefer not to fast.


Please list the excuses you have heard and add to the list if you so wish
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jb17
09-25-2007, 03:53 AM
dont christians have to fast at some point too? or ami wrong

plus they have lent..
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north_malaysian
09-25-2007, 04:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Showkat
Please list the excuses you have heard and add to the list if you so wish
1. I have "gastric".

2. My parents dont fast, so why should I?

3. I am a Non Muslim.

4. Forgot to have suhoor.

In Malaysia, the religious authorities can detain Muslims who eat publicly during Ramadan... those are some excuses given by them. Some muslims, prefer to call themselves non-Muslims because they dont want to observe Ramadan.
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syilla
09-25-2007, 04:45 AM
smoking do not nullify my fast :X
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rozeena
09-25-2007, 09:39 AM
[QUOTE=north_malaysian;834306]1. I have "gastric".

2. My parents dont fast, so why should I?

3. I am a Non Muslim.

4. Forgot to have suhoor.

that is a veri common 1!
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09-25-2007, 09:47 AM
:salamext:

Another one:

- I'll fast when I'm older.

:-\
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rozeena
09-25-2007, 10:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muj4h1d4
:salamext:

Another one:

- I'll fast when I'm older.

:-\
lol! veri veri common.lol
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lmaestro
09-25-2007, 10:28 AM
This all starts from young.You have to blame the parents to some extent for their ignorance.Its no surprise that those who do not pray do not fast.Prophet Muhammad saw mentioned that if you do your 5 prayers the rest will naturally follow,or somewhere along those lines i think.
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09-25-2007, 10:30 AM
:salamext:

Yeh I've heard that ^^ hadith as well. Subhaan Allaah it's so true...U can see that hadith reflected in various people....
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north_malaysian
09-26-2007, 07:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by syilla
smoking do not nullify my fast :X
whoa.... it sounds like a "fatwa".... a deviated "fatwa"...:ooh:
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syilla
09-26-2007, 07:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
whoa.... it sounds like a "fatwa".... a deviated "fatwa"...:ooh:
someone told me that...when i said no.

he said "your grave is your grave, mine is mine" :exhausted
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north_malaysian
09-26-2007, 07:43 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by syilla
someone told me that...when i said no.

he said "your grave is your grave, mine is mine" :exhausted
How if he's dead on a ship and being thrown away to the sea? :exhausted
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jb17
09-27-2007, 12:04 AM
I don't think the government should have any control over your decisions. If someone doesn't want to fast, that's their choice, the government shouldn't hold them in contempt for doing so. And then they come up with excuses and even go as far as calling themselves non-Muslims... how about the government lays off?
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syilla
09-27-2007, 01:10 AM
:salamext:

Is not about controlling someone's decision. Is about respecting others on the month of Ramadhan. And also giving good example to the children.

If they really don't want to fast they can easily eat it in a hiding place but no in public.

wassallam
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jb17
09-27-2007, 01:33 AM
I don't really see the problem with eating in public. Sometimes females can't fast (we all know) and it wouldn't be fair if they couldn't eat even if it was in front of others, of course it's just rude if you eat in someone's face (I'd feel guilty, I never eat in front of those who fast when I'm not) but to ban it and make it a legal thing? That's going too far, that's taking away from human rights.

And as for setting good examples for children, well, it's not like they're smoking and drinking in front of them or anything, just eating. The kid's parents should explain to them that those people might not be fasting because of certain circumstances and what not, they shouldn't be PUNISHED for it.

My 2 cents but I'm pretty modern in my thoughts, being brought up in a non-Muslim country.
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jb17
09-27-2007, 01:36 AM
Sorry I had to add, little children shouldn't be fasting anyway, so it's not like those kids would get hungry. I know some people have different views on this but even my grandfather has said that kids shouldn't fast, there's an age at which kids can start fasting but below 12 isn't right. Kids around 12-14 should have self control at that point. You can't slow down their growth and stuff, Allah wouldn't want kids to be stunted in growth and health in that critical time. It's ok to fast every once in a while but if I do have kids I won't make them fast the entire month until they've matured properly.. then again it's their personal choice
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Looking4Peace
09-27-2007, 02:43 AM
Women do not have to fast during their periods or am i wrong? Do we have to make it up?
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jb17
09-27-2007, 04:11 AM
women are NOT to fast during that time... its not allowed. women are really vulnerable at that point and its when we're 'sick' so no, you arent to fast during that time.

but im not sure if we make it up. my sister always makes it up though. so maybe. someone help me out!
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syilla
09-27-2007, 04:12 AM
:salamext:

and it is also about respecting the Month of Ramadhan :)

format_quote Originally Posted by Looking4Peace
Women do not have to fast during their periods or am i wrong? Do we have to make it up?
http://www.islamicboard.com/fasting-...date-fast.html
The seventh of the things that invalidate the fast is the blood of menses and nifaas

Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Is it not the case that when she gets her period, she does not pray or fast?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 304.


When a woman sees the blood of her period or nifaas (post-partum bleeding), her fast becomes invalid even if that is one moment before sunset.


If a woman feels that her period has started but no blood comes out until after sunset, her fast is still valid.

If the bleeding of a woman who is menstruating or in nifaas ceases at night and she has the intention of fasting, then dawn comes before she does ghusl, the view of all the scholars is that her fast is valid. Al-Fath, 4/148.


It is preferable for a woman to keep to her natural cycle and to accept that which Allaah has decreed for her, and not to take any medicine to prevent her period. She should accept what Allaah has decreed for her of not fasting during her period, and make up those days later on. This is what the Mothers of the Believers and the women of the Salaf used to do. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 10/151. In addition, it has been medically proven that these means of preventing menstruation are harmful and many women have suffered menstrual irregularities as a result. If a woman takes pills and her period stops as a result, that is fine, she can fast and her fast is acceptable.


These are things that invalidate the fast. All of them – apart from menses and nifaas – only invalidate the fast if three conditions are met: that the person was aware of the ruling and not ignorant of it; that he did it knowingly and not out of forgetfulness; and that he did it by choice and was not forced to do
you can also read it here...

http://www.islamonline.com/news/news...hp?newid=29661
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jb17
09-27-2007, 04:19 AM
Yes, true, respect for this Holy month is needed, but I think there are some things people take a bit too far.
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jb17
09-27-2007, 04:19 AM
but by 'eating in public' what did you mean? did you mean you cant eat in restaurants or just not out in the streets? I'm confused.
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Ummu Sufyaan
09-27-2007, 04:19 AM
:sl:
sisters, i've already sent the sis a PM concerning this, based on afatwa from islamqa.com
:)
:sl:
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syilla
09-27-2007, 04:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by maryam11
:sl:
sisters, i've already sent the sis a PM concerning this, based on afatwa from islamqa.com
:)
:sl:
oh okay...jazakallah khayr :)
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Protected_Diamond
09-27-2007, 04:25 AM
Pathetic excuses. The kids are really keen and willing to fast so these people have no excuses.

If you fasted all your life you wound't be able to make up for the rewards you missed because this month is Holy in itself!!
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Ummu Sufyaan
09-27-2007, 04:27 AM
:sl:
thats okay. no problems
:sl:
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S£mmi
09-28-2007, 01:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Looking4Peace
Women do not have to fast during their periods or am i wrong? Do we have to make it up?
yeah, luckly once i didnt have 1 period at all and kept them all.. :sunny:
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jb17
09-28-2007, 04:35 PM
thank you for giving that quote syrilla.
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north_malaysian
10-01-2007, 04:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by jb17
but by 'eating in public' what did you mean? did you mean you cant eat in restaurants or just not out in the streets?
Eating in public - restaurants, on the street, public places, any places which is visible to the public.

The laws only being enforced to Muslims only. Non Muslims are allowed to eat in the public.

Most of Muslim-owned restaurants only opened at 4.00 PM. And people could take-away the food.

There are cases where Muslims selling food to non-fasting Muslims, and the whole community would boycott the food sellers.
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jb17
10-02-2007, 06:00 PM
How would they know if you were Muslim lol? That's a personal thing, they can't really know your religion, only you can. That's a really unique law.
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syilla
10-03-2007, 12:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by jb17
How would they know if you were Muslim lol? That's a personal thing, they can't really know your religion, only you can. That's a really unique law.
It mentioned in our identity card :D
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Zarmina
10-03-2007, 04:33 AM
I agree, government shouldn't go around cracking down on people. Those kinds of thing are what the Taliban in Afghanistan do.
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syilla
10-03-2007, 04:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zarmina
I agree, government shouldn't go around cracking down on people. Those kinds of thing are what the Taliban in Afghanistan do.
they only being sued nothing else...
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north_malaysian
10-03-2007, 06:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zarmina
I agree, government shouldn't go around cracking down on people. Those kinds of thing are what the Taliban in Afghanistan do.
Well... they would be caught red handed along with the food they eat (as evidence), later they would be brought to the lock-up in the police station. Then being produced in front of a sharia Court judge... the punishment is only paying fine. We have no Hudood laws here.

And they're being caught as they're eating in the public, not in secluded places.

I think 99% of Muslims want this kind of enforcement during Ramadan, why?:-

1) Almost all Muslims in Malaysia observe Ramadan (including those who didnt perform salah)

2) A Muslim eating in the public during Ramadan gives bad image of Muslims and Islam to the Non Muslims.

3) A Muslim eating in the public during Ramadan gives bad example for 6 year old kids who are starting to observe Ramadan.

4) Religious Authority message: "If you dont want to observe Ramadan, it's between you and God, but if you openly doing it, it's our job to get you!!"
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Danah
10-03-2007, 11:19 AM
one of my friend said that she no someone not fast only because he is in a non muslimcountry and he is alone in the house (what an excuse!!!)

and about kids fasting, I think we have to teach them little by little about fast. for example, we can let them fast half day not the whole when they are 9. or we can let them fast on the day off.

I was fast half day when I was 8 or 9 (I did not remember).
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Malaikah
10-03-2007, 11:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zarmina
I agree, government shouldn't go around cracking down on people. Those kinds of thing are what the Taliban in Afghanistan do.
:sl:

Actually as far as I am aware it is haram for Muslims to eat in public in an Islamic state in Ramadhan.

We shouldn't be labelling things right or wrong with out knowledge, because we might actually be condemning a command of Allah while we are ignorant of it.
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