Originally Posted by sumeyye
The idea is not that it is obligatory to grow
the beard, but rather that it is forbidden to shave
the beard. I think that answers your question inshaallah.
i dno...some guys cant due to their professions. these professions are important in islam...u cant make them quit their jobs in order to grow a beard..whats more important??? i dno...i think it definietly depends on context and is thsu merely sunnah...i dno...
The vast vast majority of scholars of Islam have said that it is haram to shave the beard. If the brother can get a job somewhere else without needing to shave, then why can't he just quit? If the case is such that it would be impossible to get any job at all with a beard, then obviously now
we will have a problem for which one would need to seek a specific answer as to whether this person can shave his beard or not.
Like you said, you can't generalise these things, and need to get a specific fatwa for your own circumstances.
like what would happen if the prime minister of turkey decided to grow one? coz its obligatory???
See, now I think that is a great case were to shaving the beard would appear
permissible (not saying it is permissible, I am in no position to do so). With the beard he might be kicked out, with out the beard he has the potential to do great good for the Muslim in Turkey.
Originally Posted by sumeyye
Alternatively, what matters more for you: obeying Allah or obeying your parents. Obeying Allah comes first. We can't just mould Islam to suite our needs. Islam teaches us to obey our paretns only as long as they do not tell us to do something that Allah Himself has made haram.
the claim that it is haraam falls into an idea of faith...
It is not faith at all. It is based on evidence from the Quran and sunnah and what the scholars have said.
islam is not a religion of force, oppression, or to make life or living, or keeping ur life hard...
What is so forceful about beard being compulsory?!
Just getting a few odd stares here and there or a little prejudice from people for having a beard is no where near enough reason for a person to do something haram. As for losing a job, okay it is regrettable, but if he can find another job then why should he sin and shave?
in islam we are even permitted to eat pork if we are on the verge of death...and pork is a no doubt haraam...
Correct, but I do not see anyone putting a gun to the heads of men with beards.
these airmchair scholars need to open their minds..get out nd about...drop outta their masjids for a minute and see what average brothers in western contexts live thru....
Sister, just because you disagree, doesn't mean you should slander our scholars now and call them armchair scholars. I know heaps of brothers living in the west who have beards, and what they go through is nothing compared to what Muslim women go through for wearing hijab! Would you suggest that Muslim women should now stop wearing hijab because they live in the west?
brothers with a purpose...who need to work..who need to venture into 'nonislamic' realms are the true fighters...
sitting in ur masjid and growing a beard is no struggle...
thats why they attack great scholars like fethullah gulen...no beard...so narrow...
You are implying that anyone who has a beard only sits around at the mosque all day! The 'true fighters' are the brothers who work with
a beard! The true fighters are the Muslim who love their religion more than they love the luxuries of this life. They understand that success if through Islam, and they don't sin for minor reasons. They take the best of both worlds- they make a living, and at the same time do it the halal way without compromising their religion.
What is the struggle in working without a beard? By shaving you have removed a major part of that struggle. :?