the root of sucide bombing ,and the first sucide bomber in human history

[Rima]

in these days islam and muslims are associated with sucide bombing
many muslim scholars have spoken loudly and clearly that Islam does not support killing innocents but the propaganda is very strong
we all were shocked by the sad event of July terorist attack a sucide killing in London , it`s sad not only because innocent people have been killed but also it was sad because it was done in the name of Islam
no matter how loudly muslims would speak against sucide bombing , we still have to answer the question why Islam had to be associated with such terror
here I will try to answer the question, the ROOTS OF SUCIDE BOMBING and who invented this action and whose god support such killing?

lets read a fairy tale :

once upon the time

the Israelites were ruled by Phistines,the bible says:

Judge 13:1

1 Again the Israelites did evil in the eyes of the LORD, so the LORD delivered them into the hands of the Philistines for forty years.

then god of Isreal , as usual had a solustion to his children , he is always there to rescue them so here a boy (savior) was born and his name was Samson, he was blessed by the lord the god of israel

Judge 13:24

24 The woman gave birth to a boy and named him Samson. He grew and the LORD blessed him,

now Samson was very strong man once upon the time he killed 10000000000 of his enemies with a newest weapon was invented (at his time) guess what weapon...a donkey`s jawbone

Judges 15:16

Then Samson said, "With a donkey's jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey's jawbone I have killed a thousand men."

he was strong , he killed 1000s of Philistines , the enemy of his people , he was the leader of his people for 20 years

Judges 15:20
Samson led Israel for twenty years in the days of the Philistines.

pay attention to words leader and god has blessed Samson ,he also was one of the JUDGES ....this is very important fact for later events

now just let see what a leader and the blessed one have to do in his off duty time

Judges 16:1

One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her.

I guess for refreshment nothing personal

so to go on our tale let see what happend later:

he met Dalilah , he felt in love with Dalilah , and this woman was the his end

Judges 16:4

4 Some time later, he fell in love with a woman in the Valley of Sorek whose name was Delilah

the Philitines heard about this relationship so they played a game:

Judges 16:5

The rulers of the Philistines went to her and said, "See if you can lure him into showing you the secret of his great strength and how we can overpower him so we may tie him up and subdue him. Each one of us will give you eleven hundred shekels of silver."

and done deal , while they were having beside sex and fun, Dalilah asked Samson:

Judges 16:6

So Delilah said to Samson, "Tell me the secret of your great strength and how you can be tied up and subdued."

and Samson wasn`t stupid he didn`t tell her the truth , but he tried to lie to her , so after back and forth conversation he finaly felt in her trap and told her the secret behind his strength

Judges 16:17

So he told her everything. "No razor has ever been used on my head," he said, "because I have been a Nazirite set apart to God since birth. If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man."

after she knew the secret Dalilah got payed in selver

Judges 16:18

So the rulers of the Philistines returned with the silver in their hands. 19 Having put him to sleep on her lap, she called a man to shave off the seven braids of his hair, and so began to subdue him. And his strength left him

yes the Philistenes had got Samson, but pay attention that his hair begun to grow again , wowo

Judges 16:21

21 Then the Philistines seized him, gouged out his eyes and took him down to Gaza. Binding him with bronze shackles, they set him to grinding in the prison. 22 But the hair on his head began to grow again after it had been shaved.

now back to the subject:

how did Samson die . lets the bible speak itself:

judges 16:23-30

23 Now the rulers of the Philistines assembled to offer a great sacrifice to Dagon their god and to celebrate, saying, "Our god has delivered Samson, our enemy, into our hands."
24 When the people saw him, they praised their god, saying,
"Our god has delivered our enemy
into our hands,
the one who laid waste our land
and multiplied our slain."
25 While they were in high spirits, they shouted, "Bring out Samson to entertain us." So they called Samson out of the prison, and he performed for them.
When they stood him among the pillars,
26 Samson said to the servant who held his hand, "Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them."
27 Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform.

but my friends god of Israel would never leave his childern so ..lets read

Judges 16 28

28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes."

after god`s blessings and answering his prayers ...lets read it is intersting

Judges 16:29-30

29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.

lets die with the enemies (no matter if there were kids or woman and innocents . let me die for my people and my god and Samson killed many more innocents when he die than he killed al his life

interesting story about the first sucide bombing in the human history

so the question is who invented this SUCIDE BOMBING ....

Peace

[Henry]

Assalamu Alaikam Waramatuallah Wabarakatu

The way I see it, and I think it's probably right, is that you can't really do suicide bombings unless you are about to die in the face of battle. My friend once told me a story of what happenned in Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded. An Afghani ran up to a tank, shouted "ALLAH ACKBAR!", and blew up the tank. Obviously he died, but he would have anyways if it wasn't for that miracle.

In that article above no innocents, women, or children are killed. Just the enemy and himself beacause his other option was death aswell.

[Rima]

In that article above no innocents, women, or children are killed. Just the enemy and himself beacause his other option was death aswell.

oh yeah, I`ve heard this before

somebody is chellenging me here
my dear friend I read this story 12 years

time came when anti islamic ativists and all who hate muslims don`t have to answer because there are muslims who will defend them anyways I m not surprise

back to your claim that in the biblical fairy tale wasn`t women and childern (other words,only Islam support sucide terror) :thumbs_up
let me show you what the Bible said let it speak itself

Judges 16:27

27 Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and
women watching Samson perform

so as you may see my dear muslim friend Samson killed a crowded temple with innocents civilians men and women and all in the name of their god

3000 women on the roof watching him performing all in his holly name , and you may argue with me for years the fact is that terror is rooted in their bible and their teaching, and ,maybe Qafar Qassem, or Deyr Yaseen masscre would refresh your memory :thumbs_do

bye now

[Henry]

Assalamu Alaikam Waramatuallah Wabarakatu

Hey there, I didn't realise that I wrote Article, friend. I ment the story in which I wrote.

My friend once told me a story of what happenned in Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded. An Afghani ran up to a tank, shouted "ALLAH ACKBAR!", and blew up the tank. Obviously he died, but he would have anyways if it wasn't for that miracle.

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In THERE, no children, women, or innocents are killed.

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[Rima]

sorry for missunderstanding
I am not rude , I only was honest with my feelings
again sorry for missunderstanding
here I will edit my previous post

[Henry]

Assalamu Alaikam Waramatuallah Wabarakatu

No problem, no problem :) Only happiness here :D

[- Qatada -]

only Islam support sucide terror

hey.

Some people don't even read into the facts of what Islam allows in disallows. Islam forbids any form of suicide; suicide bombing, jumping off a cliff, euthanasia. No matter what happens Islam forbids suicide.

Suicide bombing is against Islam because of many factors, the first one being obvious that your killing yourself in which the person will not gain any benefit and the 2nd is the fact that when one does blow him/her self up they do not have control over what will get caught up in the attack e.g a innocent child may be walking past and could get killed or even a innocent women or senior.. even the killing of a plant or insect. All that is forbidden in Islam.

Theres a previous post on this forum regarding suicide bombing. http://www.islamicboard.com/showthre...uicide+bombing

In Islam one is allowed to go to fight for Islam but that is to protect our brothers n sisters. The same rules apply such as the killing of innocent children, innocent women, the disabled, seniors, even plants and insects. all which is disallowed.

Islam was not spread by the sword but Muslims only fought to protect their Muslim brothers and sisters (regardless of the colour of they skin or gender or culture.) The true Muslims neva fought to gain land or power but to tell one fact: There is no god but Allah (swt) and Muhammed (salalahu alai hi wasalam) is his messenger. Islam spread through peace and never forced no1 2 convert but instead everyone came to Islam because of the way they saw the Muslims and how caring they were... this was because the Prophet Muhammed (salalahu alai hi wasalam) was their role model. The same should apply to the muslims of today.. to bad it doesnt to all.



Based on Islamic principles, Muslims Scholars have established a list of guidelines during war:

1. War is to be waged only with those who encourage and engage in it.

2. Priests in churches, children, women, and the elderly must never be harmed.

3. Sown fields must not be damaged.

4. Treaties and agreements must not be broken.

5. Animals must not be harmed.

6. There must be no cruelty and torture.

7. Towns must not be destroyed

Allah (swt) knows best.

May Allah (swt) help us all to get onto the right path. Ameen

[czgibson]

Greetings Rima,

in these days islam and muslims are associated with sucide bombing
many muslim scholars have spoken loudly and clearly that Islam does not support killing innocents but the propaganda is very strong
we all were shocked by the sad event of July terorist attack a sucide killing in London , it`s sad not only because innocent people have been killed but also it was sad because it was done in the name of Islam
no matter how loudly muslims would speak against sucide bombing , we still have to answer the question why Islam had to be associated with such terror

Of course everyone who looks into Islam will find that suicide is always prohibited, but the question of why this association has arisen is an interesting one. It's not so much propaganda, I think, just that if one suicide bomber after another calls himself Muslim, and says he is doing the work of Islam, it's no wonder people in the West get confused.

now Samson was very strong man once upon the time he killed 10000000000 of his enemies with a newest weapon was invented (at his time) guess what weapon...a donkey`s jawbone

What makes you believe Samson killed 10 billion people? Does that seem even remotely plausible?

interesting story about the first sucide bombing in the human history

so the question is who invented this SUCIDE BOMBING ....

An interesting story, no doubt. What has it got to do with suicide bombing, though? No bombs were involved.

Peace

[Bittersteel]

Of course everyone who looks into Islam will find that suicide is always prohibited, but the question of why this association has arisen is an interesting one. It's not so much propaganda, I think, just that if one suicide bomber after another calls himself Muslim, and says he is doing the work of Islam, it's no wonder people in the West get confused.

exactly friend.Which has led to tremendous misunderstanding.

[- Qatada -]

hey. i think the reason why this occurs is because the muslim hasn't really looked into the hadith or the holy qur'an themselves.. and they might believe that if they blow themselves up - its a easy way of gainin martyrdom. when in reality that isnt the case.. i really feel sorry for them...

Allah (swt) knows best.

[Abdul Fattah]

Interesting. I always thought the Japanese kamikazepilots in the world war were the first to deliberetly choose death by purpose of taking many lives with them. Apparently the concept was know to mankind much earlyer then that.

[Rima]

An interesting story, no doubt. What has it got to do with suicide bombing, though? No bombs were involved.

Peace

had Samson lived in 21 century he would`ve probably used bombs and fire works too

[muslim brother]

In the years leading up to the First World War, the United Kingdom was subjected to a ferocious campaign of bombing and arson. Those conducting this terrorist offensive were members of the Women's Social and Political Union; better known as the suffragettes. 

The targets for their attacks ranged from St Paul's Cathedral and the Bank of England in London to theatres and churches in Ireland. The violence, which included several attempted assassinations, culminated in June 1914 with an explosion in Westminster Abbey.

Simon Webb explores the way in which the suffragette bombers have been airbrushed from history, leaving us with a distorted view of the struggle for female suffrage. Not only were the suffragettes far more aggressive than is generally known, but there exists the very real and surprising possibility that their militant activities actually delayed, rather than hastened, the granting of the parliamentary vote to British women.


​The Suffragette Bombers: Britain's Forgotten Terrorists