U.S. sets record in sexual disease cases

[islamirama]

U.S. sets record in sexual disease cases

By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer



More than 1 million cases of chlamydia were reported in the United States last year — the most ever reported for a sexually transmitted disease, federal health officials said Tuesday.
"A new U.S. record," said Dr. John M. Douglas Jr. of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
More bad news: Gonorrhea rates are jumping again after hitting a record low, and an increasing number of cases are caused by a "superbug" version resistant to common antibiotics, federal officials said Tuesday.
Syphilis is rising, too. The rate of congenital syphilis — which can deform or kill babies — rose for the first time in 15 years.
"Hopefully we will not see this turn into a trend," said Dr. Khalil Ghanem, an infectious diseases specialist at Johns Hopkins University's School of medicine.
The CDC releases a report each year on chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis, three diseases caused by sexually transmitted bacteria.
Chlamydia is the most common. Nearly 1,031,000 cases were reported last year, up from 976,000 the year before.
The count broke the single-year record for reported cases of a sexually transmitted disease, which was 1,013,436 cases of gonorrhea, set in 1978.
Putting those numbers into rates, there were about 349 cases of chlamydia per 100,000 people in 2006, up 5.6 percent from the 329 per 100,000 rate in 2005.
CDC officials say the chlamydia record may not be all bad news: They think the higher number is largely a result of better and more intensive screening.
Since 1993, the CDC has recommended annual screening in sexually active women ages 15 to 25. Meanwhile, urine and swab tests for the bacteria are getting better and are used more often, for men as well as women, said Douglas, director of the CDC's Division of Sexually Transmitted Disease Prevention.
About three-quarters of women infected with chlamydia have no symptoms. Left untreated, the infection can spread and ultimately can lead to infertility. It's easily treated if caught early.
Health officials believe as many as 2.8 million new cases may actually be occurring each year, he added.
Chlamydia infection rates are more than seven times higher in black women then whites, and more than twice as high in black women than Hispanics. But it's a risk women of all races should consider, CDC officials said.
"If (health care) providers think young women in their practice don't have chlamydia, they should think again," said Dr. Stuart Berman, a CDC epidemiologist.
The gonorrhea story is somewhat different.
In 2004, the nation's gonorrhea rate fell to 112.4 cases per 100,000 people in 2004, the lowest level since the government started tracking cases in 1941.
But since then, health officials have seen two consecutive years of increases. The 2006 rate — about 121 per 100,000 — represents a 5.5 percent increase from 2005.
Health officials don't know exactly how many superbug cases there were among the more than 358,000 gonorrhea cases reported in 2006. But a surveillance project of 28 cities found that 14 percent were resistant to ciprofloxacin and other medicines in the fluoroquinolones class of antibiotics.
Similar samples found that 9 percent were resistant to those antibiotics in 2005, and 7 percent were resistant in 2004. The appearance of the superbug has been previously reported, and the CDC is April advised doctors to stop using those drugs against gonorrhea.
Douglas said it doesn't look like the superbugs are the reason for gonorrhea's escalating numbers overall, but they're not sure what is driving the increase.
Other doctors are worried. The superbug gonorrhea has been on the rise not only in California and Hawaii, where the problem has been most noticeable, but also in the South and parts of the Midwest.
"Suddenly we're starting to see the spread," Ghanem said.
Syphilis, a potentially deadly disease that first shows up as genital sores, has become relatively rare in the United States. About 9,800 cases of the most contagious forms or syphilis were reported in 2006, up from about 8,700 in 2005.
The rate rose from 2.9 cases per 100,000 people to 3.3, a 14 percent increase.
For congenital syphilis, in which babies get syphilis from their mothers, the rate rose only slightly from the previous year to 8.5 cases per 100,000 live births.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/...me/std_rates_6

[syilla]

jazakallah khayr for sharing with us.

I remember once i've been told that zina will be punish in this world and hereafter.

and i heard that sexual diseases are very painful and the patient has to suffer alot :(

[rehmans_mba]

shukr allah.these are the signs which alert us from doing bad deeds. praise to allah that he has made us amoung muslims and ummah of his loving habeed e rasool SAS.

[Malaikah]

and i heard that sexual diseases are very painful and the patient has to suffer alot :(

:sl:

It depends... some people might be infected but have no symptoms at all. Others, well, let's just say that some people have likened the pain of gonorrhoea to urinating broken glass. :exhausted

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[barney]

Sexually Transmitted Diseases are a worldwide phenomonon. They hold no borders of race or religion. Indeed the religious taboo of STD's causes many countries to have a hidden epidemic, as thousands go undiagnosed due to shame.
http://data.unaids.org/pub/EpiReport...Update_eng.pdf

[Keltoi]

I'm not going to name the university, but I do know one where it is estimated that 40% of the student body has been or will be infected by an STD. The social stigma attached to these things leads many to believe it is only the sexually promiscuous who contract these diseases, but of course that isn't the case.

[Cognescenti]

Ah..thanks for that. Another look at the Godless kuffir being struck down for their wickedness story. I'm sure the original poster's interest was purely epidemiological :okay:

The headline might better say, "Improved Detection Efforts for Chlamydia Yield Better Identification of Asymptomatic Individuals"

Recently implemented routine screening of women above a certain age (using a simple urine test) is identifying more cases of chlamydia previously undiagnosed. That doesn't mean the true incidence is rising. Chlamydia is often asymptomatic (i.e. the patient doesn't have symptoms).


Syphillis is another matter but 9,000 cases in a population of 300,000,000 is hardly an epidemic. Most of the increase there is in the category of what the CDC calls "men who have sex with men".

[islamirama]

Sexually Transmitted Diseases are a worldwide phenomonon. They hold no borders of race or religion. Indeed the religious taboo of STD's causes many countries to have a hidden epidemic, as thousands go undiagnosed due to shame.
http://data.unaids.org/pub/EpiReport...Update_eng.pdf

Yes STD are worldwide, no one doubts that. But as the report stated from yahoo news, US is leading the world in this illness. Few months ago another report had come out showing US people to be most Promiscuous in the world. Where people start having bf/gf and sex at age of 10 and start competing with each other from HS and onward as to how many ppl one sleeps with, we can see that sex is more rampant in US than any other nation. So it's only natural they'll have more of STDs than anyone else.

[Cognescenti]

Here is a bit from the UN AIDS report Barney referenced:


Unprotected sex (including during paid sex and sex between men) is the other major factor in the region’s epidemics. HIV infections levels of 9%–10%, 2.2% and 4.4% have been found among female sex workers in Saida and Tamanrasset in Algeria (Fares et al., 2004), Morocco (Ministère de la Santé Maroc, 2005) and Sudan (Federal Ministry of Health Sudan, 2002), respectively. Indeed, in Algeria and Morocco, unprotected sex accounts for the majority of reported HIV infections, and women represent an increasing proportion of people living with HIV (Ministère de la Santé Maroc, 2005). At some antenatal clinics in the south of Algeria, more than 1% of pregnant women have tested HIV-positive (Institut de Formation Paramédicale de Parnet, 2004). In Saudi Arabia, almost half (46%) of reported HIV cases have been attributed to unprotected sex. There, two thirds (67%) of all HIV cases have been reported in three cities: Jeddah, Riyadh and Damman (Al-Mazrou et al.,


1% among pregant women in Southern Algeria...tsk tsk tsk. I wonder how that happened. HIV is relatively hard to transmit. Anyone want to hazard a guess on the prevalence of other agents?

[Cognescenti]

Yes STD are worldwide, no one doubts that. But as the report stated from yahoo news, US is leading the world in this illness. Few months ago another report had come out showing US people to be most Promiscuous in the world. Where people start having bf/gf and sex at age of 10 and start competing with each other from HS and onward as to how many ppl one sleeps with, we can see that sex is more rampant in US than any other nation. So it's only natural they'll have more of STDs than anyone else.

Yeah..that's it champ. Widespread sexual promiscuity at age 10 :giggling:

You know, I am half tempted to post something about a certain historical figure here but I am sure it would be the end of my time on this forum and might even generate a few fatwas.

You are either a dissembling hatemonger or a naive fool.

[islamirama]

Yeah..that's it champ. Widespread sexual promiscuity at age 10 :giggling:

You know, I am half tempted to post something about a certain historical figure here but I am sure it would be the end of my time on this forum and might even generate a few fatwas.

You are either a dissembling hatemonger or a naive fool.

What yahoo news posted is a fact. US is the highest in STD

What i stated is also a fact, boys/girls start having sex at age 10 in US.

For a society that over promotes sexuality, it's only natural they would be high on these things.

So rather then calling me hatemonger or naive, accept the reality.

[Amadeus85]

For a society that over promotes sexuality, it's only natural they would be high on these things.

.

You are right.

[wilberhum]

islamirama,
Yahoo News? :muddlehea
I thought you didn't use Kefir News sources. :D

Well except your new proof Youtube. :giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling:

You have provided further proof that you only accept as true things that support your bias. :thumbs_do

[islamirama]

islamirama,
Yahoo News? :muddlehea
I thought you didn't use Kefir News sources. :D

Well except your new proof Youtube. :giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling:

You have provided further proof that you only accept as true things that support your bias. :thumbs_do

quit being so stupid.

I take common news from normal places, except those that are known to be liars (fox, abc, cbs, etc).

I take political news from non-US media unless its someone like www.counterpunch.com

and i take religious info from religious sites that are known to be authentic and reliable and not some google site like some ignorant nobody here keeps ranting.

and as for youtube, it is nothing more than video tapes info from horse's mouth. I rather go there and watch the video uploaded there by someone from pakistan and listen to actual words and testimony of the women of lal masjid (or whoever) then be some dummy and listen to whatever crap they feed you in your media and come parroting it here making a fool of yourself.

[wilberhum]

quit being so stupid.

I take common news from normal places, except those that are known to be liars (fox, abc, cbs, etc).

I take political news from non-US media unless its someone like www.counterpunch.com

and i take religious info from religious sites that are known to be authentic and reliable and not some google site like some ignorant nobody here keeps ranting.

and as for youtube, it is nothing more than video tapes info from horse's mouth. I rather go there and watch the video uploaded there by someone from pakistan and listen to actual words and testimony of the women of lal masjid (or whoever) then be some dummy and listen to whatever crap they feed you in your media and come parroting it here making a fool of yourself.

There you go again.

Were you using "Dubble Speak" when you posted that you didn't use Kefir News sources?
But when you talk about the "horse's mouth", I think you got the end wrong. ;D

Well I lessened to the "actual words and testimony of the women of lal masjid" to bad I don't understand the language. But only you would think the openion of one person out weighs everything else.

But by the way, since I don't close my mind of any valid news source, I want to thank you for getting me linked up with Dawn. It is really interesting.
I did notice that they said over one hundred were killed at the Red Mosque. Well you said a thousand. But I guess you are right again, a thousand is more than a hundred.

But then it is obvious that you look at things that way.

[islamirama]

There you go again.

I did notice that they said over one hundred were killed at the Red Mosque. Well you said a thousand. But I guess you are right again, a thousand is more than a hundred.

But then it is obvious that you look at things that way.

you won't find a 100% reliable source anywhere, so you do with what you can. The site said 100 cuz that is the gov'ts offfical word (which was originally 70). Story on ground zero is much different as well as the numbers. I understand you are limited to your source of knowledge, just don't think that is the fact cuz some "official" said it.

now how about we get back on topic, the immorality of the US and how wild they are in sex and std.

Remember the sex orgies everyone was engaged in at a high school in tx, George town (i think). Ask woodrow, he may know exactly which city it was.

[snakelegs]

Ah..thanks for that. Another look at the Godless kuffir being struck down for their wickedness story.

has anyone but me noticed that in world affairs almost all the threads, whether started by muslims or non-muslims have a subtext?
it's the only thing that makes "world affairs" fun! ;D
(i know - i have a strange sense of humour)

[Jayda]

hola

regardless of STDs and teen pregnancy, premarital sex is a huge problem in the united states... it is very difficult to address the problem because it runs against cultural conventions and it is easy to be marginalized as a fringe religious person.

with regards to STDs, as a nurse, i can tell you it is unfair to call this a 'curse from God,' especially HIV which is increasingly becomming a disease which disproportionately afflicts children and those living in abject poverty. God is no sooner punishing adulterers with HIV than he is punishing the poor with HIV.

que Dios te bendiga

[Amadeus85]

now how about we get back on topic, the immorality of the US and how wild they are in sex and std.

Remember the sex orgies everyone was engaged in at a high school in tx, George town (i think). Ask woodrow, he may know exactly which city it was.

I must agree with you again. The contrculture started in 60's caused big demoralization in american society. Sexual revolution, pornography,radical feminism changed this nation. Contrculture propagandists took over the whole american culture,movies (Hollywood),music,theater,newspapers,tv channels(MTV and immoral films).They can promote every type of immoral behaviour,free sex (just look what is showed in most of Hollywood movies).We must also notice that it is not the whole truth about USA. Still there are many people who follow the traditional values and morality,they teach their children in homes(to avoid gay propaganda in public schools).Its also worth to notice that this so called sexual revolution promoted by contrculturalist is nothing more than a marxist dream come true about freeing western man from intolerant christian moral ties.

[wilberhum]

you won't find a 100% reliable source anywhere, so you do with what you can. The site said 100 cuz that is the gov'ts offfical word (which was originally 70). Story on ground zero is much different as well as the numbers. I understand you are limited to your source of knowledge, just don't think that is the fact cuz some "official" said it.

now how about we get back on topic, the immorality of the US and how wild they are in sex and std.

Well I can't find anything on Youtube about the US and sexual morality so I don't know if any of this is true. :giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling:

Record keeping is improved. Detection ability is improved.
These are factors that can not be measured and there impact on the stats is unknown.

I assume the use of sexual freedom is on the rise. Probably more that stats would indicate. I believe many no longer buy into the sexual taboos.
Different than Iran, we do have homosexuals in the US.
Pregnant girls are no longer sent to “Boarding Schools” and they are much less likely to put there child up for adoption.

Since it isn’t our custom to kill sexually active unmarried people out of some perverted sense of “Honor” it is more likely to be out in the open.

If your “yard stick” for measuring the morality of a country is by STD stats and think beating women for making too much noise has no moral implications, then you have your proof.

I’m always amazed how much importance people put on things that have nothing to do with them and have no impact.

Why do you find it so important to be concerned about what goes on in someone else’s bedroom yet have no concern about what is happening in there kitchen. It seams that one has no more impact on you that the other.

[islamirama]

I must agree with you again. The contrculture started in 60's caused big demoralization in american society. Sexual revolution, pornography,radical feminism changed this nation. Contrculture propagandists took over the whole american culture,movies (Hollywood),music,theater,newspapers,tv channels(MTV and immoral films).They can promote every type of immoral behaviour,free sex (just look what is showed in most of Hollywood movies).We must also notice that it is not the whole truth about USA. Still there are many people who follow the traditional values and morality,they teach their children in homes(to avoid gay propaganda in public schools).Its also worth to notice that this so called sexual revolution promoted by contrculturalist is nothing more than a marxist dream come true about freeing western man from intolerant christian moral ties.

That is quite true. The counterculture has done quite a lot of damage to the US lifestyle. There was a time when even making out in public was looked down upon, and sexual relations didn't start till people started to look for marriage partners. And today we have kids that are ready to jump in bed even before they hit puberty. Isn't the whole purpose dating is to find a mate to marry and settle down? so i wonder why do we have kids dating and actively having sex. I think the society has gone way down the hill and that is something you will see in any society when people start to abandon religion and the values and norms it teaches them.

Did you know a research done several years back showed those nations that that believed in hell had less crime in their boundaries? Amazing how lewd and corrupt people become if they think there isn't any punishment waiting for them for their crimes.

[wilberhum]

That is quite true. The counterculture has done quite a lot of damage to the US lifestyle. There was a time when even making out in public was looked down upon, and sexual relations didn't start till people started to look for marriage partners. And today we have kids that are ready to jump in bed even before they hit puberty. Isn't the whole purpose dating is to find a mate to marry and settle down? so i wonder why do we have kids dating and actively having sex. I think the society has gone way down the hill and that is something you will see in any society when people start to abandon religion and the values and norms it teaches them.

Did you know a research done several years back showed those nations that that believed in hell had less crime in their boundaries? Amazing how lewd and corrupt people become if they think there isn't any punishment waiting for them for their crimes.

And if you kill homosexuals like Iran then you don't have a problem with homosexuals.

Maybe instead of hell we could use electro shock treatment on the kids.

How about telling them about the boogie man?

When it comes to sex, some people have more hang-ups that a closet.
Sex is not a crime.

[barney]

If theres one thing that i have learned at Load Islam, it's the love people have of Authenticity and Reliability.

Just the words make you think "Wow!, this is a genuine bona fida 100% fact source, esteemed by the intellectual and shunned by the neo-con mindless thought-facists"
Then you follow the link and find that its http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

[wilberhum]

If theres one thing that i have learned at Load Islam, it's the love people have of Authenticity and Reliability.

Just the words make you think "Wow!, this is a genuine bona fida 100% fact source, esteemed by the intellectual and shunned by the neo-con mindless thought-facists"
Then you follow the link and find that its http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

This is great. Thanks for the misinformation.

This will be a great source for debunking islamirama youtube proofs. :laugh::skeleton:

[Malaikah]

I think we are going a bit off topic here...?

STI's are a problem amongst those who have extra-marital relations. No doubt about it.

For those people suggesting that you can get them by other methods, the only other method I can think of is contaminated needles or at birth, the child getting it from the mother, and that is no where near as common as them being transmitted sexually.

[barney]

Thats totally right Mal.

The topic drifted because the O.P was so blatently anti-Yank, and replies started saying " Typical kuffar, us Muslims would never do that" when actually, STD rates are noticably higher.

It's a lesson for everyone to learn, If you want too many partners your doing to spread disease. Stick to one wife or husband and choose them wisely. Yourself.

[Keltoi]

I think we are going a bit off topic here...?

STI's are a problem amongst those who have extra-marital relations. No doubt about it.

For those people suggesting that you can get them by other methods, the only other method I can think of is contaminated needles or at birth, the child getting it from the mother, and that is no where near as common as them being transmitted sexually.

Were you referring to my post? I did not mean that STD's are acquired outside of sexual contact in most cases, I meant that the social stigma around them leads people to believe that those who contracted them are all sexually depraved or jump around to various sexual partners, when that isn't always the case at all. Yes, choosing to engage in sexual activity outside of marriage is the problem, I just don't believe that everyone who contracts such a disease are somehow morally bankrupt.

[جوري]

Yeah, sex at age 10 is disgraceful.
Even more at age 9. :)

Here in the U.S we are not concerned with prevention, rather how to rectify the situation once it occurs, so we pump 11 year old girls full of hormones to prevent pregnancy outbreaks (see below). They can pass the diseases around though, that is 'aight' laws haven't changed much from 1885, we just make believe we are on top of things here while we mock how the other half lives :sunny:.
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Should birth control be given to girls as young as 11?

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) -- After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills available to girls as young as 11.

King Middle School will become the first middle school in Maine to make a full range of contraception available, including birth control pills and patches. Condoms have been available at King's health center since 2000.

Students need parental permission to access the school's health center. But treatment is confidential under state law, which allows the students to decide whether to inform their parents about the services they receive.

There are no national figures on how many middle schools provide such services. Most middle schoolers range in age from 11 to 13.

"It's very rare that middle schools do this," said Divya Mohan, a spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.

Portland's three middle schools reported 17 pregnancies during the last four years, not counting miscarriages or terminated pregnancies that weren't reported to the school nurse.

The Portland School Committee approved the plan, offered by city health officials, on a 7-2 vote Wednesday night. Whether the prescriptions would be offered this school year or next wasn't immediately clear.

King is the only one of the three schools with a health center, primarily because it has more students who get free or reduced-price lunch, said Lisa Belanger, who oversees Portland's student health centers.

Five of the 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

Committee member Sarah Thompson, also the mother of a King eighth-grader, supported the policy, even though it made her "uncomfortable."

"I know I've done my job as a parent," Thompson said. "(But there) may be a time when she doesn't feel comfortable coming to me ... (and) not all these kids have a strong parental advocate at home."

Chairman John Coyne opposed the change, saying the roles of social agencies and public schools have blurred over the years. "At some point there needs to be a clearing of the gray lines," he said.

The other "no" vote Wednesday night came from Ben Meiklejohn, who said a parental consent form, which allows students to receive any kind of treatment at the school health center, does not clearly define the services being offered.

Some opponents cited religious and health objections.

"We are dealing with children," said Diane Miller, a former school nurse said. "I am just horrified at the suggestion."

Another opponent, Peter Doyle, said he felt the proposal violated the rights of parents and puts students at risk of cancer because of hormones in the pill.

Supporters said a small number of students at King are sexually active, but they need better access to birth control.

"This isn't encouraging kids to have sex. This is about the kids who are engaging in sexually activity," Richard Veilleux said.

At King, birth control prescriptions will be given after a student undergoes a physical exam by a physician or nurse practitioner, Belanger said.

Nationally, about one-fourth of student health centers that serve at least one grade of adolescents 11 and older dispense some form of contraception, said Mohan, whose Washington-based organization represents more than 1,700 school-based centers nationwide.

A high school in Topeka, Kan., stopped providing free condoms to students Wednesday after district officials learned of the month-old program. The district has a policy against providing contraceptives.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/s...?storyid=93826

[Malaikah]

Were you referring to my post? I did not mean that STD's are acquired outside of sexual contact in most cases, I meant that the social stigma around them leads people to believe that those who contracted them are all sexually depraved or jump around to various sexual partners, when that isn't always the case at all. Yes, choosing to engage in sexual activity outside of marriage is the problem, I just don't believe that everyone who contracts such a disease are somehow morally bankrupt.

No, I wasn't referring to your post. And I rather agree with you- it is not right to assume that a person is immoral just because they had an STI because some people can and do catch them through other 'innocent' methods.

[wilberhum]

Five of the 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

Supporters said a small number of students at King are sexually active, but they need better access to birth control.

That hardly sounds like an epidemic.

[جوري]

where did my post go? my computer is having indigestion today... hmm

You missed the point of the post dear wilburhum.. rather than highlight the obvious, I'll leave it to the discerning readers..

furtheremore, though I can't even find my post to re-quote--- those were the 'reported' incidents....

ah here it is

Portland's three middle schools reported 17 pregnancies during the last four years, not counting miscarriages or terminated pregnancies that weren't reported to the school nurse.

that is what 11 year olds are busy doing --wink wink!...
Sad part is, I always fancied portland one of those 'upwardly mobile' areas... wonder what it is like in the bronx... that is a rhetorical question of course...

cheers

[Gator]

U.S. sets record in sexual disease cases

U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A...








(I apologize in advance for this post)

[Cognescenti]

where did my post go? my computer is having indigestion today... hmm

You missed the point of the post dear wilburhum.. rather than highlight the obvious, I'll leave it to the discerning readers..

furtheremore, though I can't even find my post to re-quote--- those were the 'reported' incidents....

ah here it is


that is what 11 year olds are busy doing --wink wink!...
Sad part is, I always fancied portland one of those 'upwardly mobile' areas... wonder what it is like in the bronx... that is a rhetorical question of course...

cheers

Not that I condone sexual activity among teens, but these are middle schoolers (7th and 8th graders). They are mostly 13 and 14 (with a few 12 year olds). Portland is a very politically "liberal" town (leftist). They don't believe in being "judgmental". I am pretty sure Portland has plenty of poorly-educated folks. They don't all design shoes for Nike or write computer code.

BTW, are you trying to say you are American now? Weren't you English a while back?

Lastly, I have a general question. What, exactly, is the point of this thread?

1) Americans are all valueless, self-indulgent fools who dion't care about their daughters?

2) We need only convert to Islam and all will be well among 300,000,000 people?

3) Thank God for the Atlantic and Pacific. Kids, you see what can happen?

[جوري]

Not that I condone sexual activity among teens, but these are middle schoolers (7th and 8th graders). They are mostly 13 and 14 (with a few 12 year olds). Portland is a very politically "liberal" town (leftist). They don't believe in being "judgmental". I am pretty sure Portland has plenty of poorly-educated folks. They don't all design shoes for Nike or write computer code.

I always love it when you teach me something new :shade:

BTW, are you trying to say you are American now? Weren't you English a while back?

I am a citizen of the world.. why does my nationality concern you? living in bloody England for two years hardly makes me English.. just makes me into travel!

Lastly, I have a general question. What, exactly, is the point of this thread?

I don't know.. but as a general rule..it is easy not to partake in threads that don't appeal to you...this isn't afly trap.. you don't have to hover around :coolious:

1) Americans are all valueless, self-indulgent fools who dion't care about their daughters?

I don't know.. are they?

2) We need only convert to Islam and all will be well among 300,000,000 people?

This is an islamic forum.. gasp.. people will be Muslim here and in favor of Islamic values...

3) Thank God for the Atlantic and Pacific. Kids, you see what can happen?

No..I tend to think of you as a toothless demented harpy who likes to comment on every thread...

Ah..I miss Ramadan!


cheerio

[barney]

I can remember several years back something on the news where an 11 year old got pregnant. It caused headline news for quite a few days.

But I'll ignore reality and accept PA's idea that theres hundreds of thousands of naked,pregnant, booze-swilling, drugged up 10 year olds swarming around the west in a wanton cycle of debauchery.

Even if I've lived in the west for 40 years and never seen this dreamworld, i'm sure shes right....because she always is!

[KAding]

What yahoo news posted is a fact. US is the highest in STD

Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

Here are some figures:
http://family.jrank.org/pages/1546/S...logy-STDs.html

Estimated* worldwide prevalence and incidence of curable STDs # (1999)

Prevalence per 1000
North America                        19
Western Europe                       20
North Africa and Middle East         21
Eastern Europe and Central Asia      29
Sub Saharan Africa                  119
South and South East Asia            50
East Asia and Pacific                 7
Australia and New Zealand            27
Latin America and Caribbean          71

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.

[KAding]

Oh btw, here are some graphs from the Centre of Disease Control (the same source as in the yahoo news story, in fact, I think this is the report they are referring too.

Here is a historical overview of STD development in the US:
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/fignatpro.htm
Figure 1. Chlamydia — Rates: Total and by sex: United States, 1987–2006

Figure 11. Gonorrhea — Rates: United States, 1941–2006 and the Healthy People 2010 target

Figure 26. Syphilis — Reported cases by stage of infection: United States, 1941–2006

Figure 39. Chancroid — Reported cases: United States, 1981–2006

And finally AIDS:

I can't say they look particularly disturbing. STDs seem well under control (except chlamydia). With most STDs rates are apparently a lot lower than in the good old days when everyone was moral and asexual and such ;). Of course, every case is one too many. Educating about safe-sex seems the best route IMHO! But then, I don't consider sex outside of marriage a sin.

[Cognescenti]

Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

Here are some figures:
http://family.jrank.org/pages/1546/S...logy-STDs.html

Estimated* worldwide prevalence and incidence of curable STDs # (1999)

Prevalence per 1000
North America                        19
Western Europe                       20
North Africa and Middle East         21
Eastern Europe and Central Asia      29
Sub Saharan Africa                  119
South and South East Asia            50
East Asia and Pacific                 7
Australia and New Zealand            27
Latin America and Caribbean          71

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.

Shhhhhh....don't ruin all the fun.

[islamirama]

Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.

Go to the link of the source, the very title of the news is "US sets recordi n sexual disease cases".

I know Africa got more aids/hiv but who is talking about that here?

Its rather amusing that people would go into denial rather then accept the facts and then try to work out a solution to curve the problem. But then again thats the American way, to point fingers at the world and never at themsevles.


More than 1 million cases of chlamydia were reported in the United States last year — the most ever reported for a sexually transmitted disease, federal health officials said Tuesday.

"A new U.S. record," said Dr. John M. Douglas Jr. of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

More bad news: Gonorrhea rates are jumping again after hitting a record low, and an increasing number of cases are caused by a "superbug" version resistant to common antibiotics, federal officials said Tuesday.

Syphilis is rising, too. The rate of congenital syphilis — which can deform or kill babies — rose for the first time in 15 years.

[Liono]

What yahoo news posted is a fact. US is the highest in STD

What i stated is also a fact, boys/girls start having sex at age 10 in US.

For a society that over promotes sexuality, it's only natural they would be high on these things.

So rather then calling me hatemonger or naive, accept the reality.

Maybe my understanding of Islamic history is wrong so could you help me out a little bit? I don't remember but how old was Aisha when she was given to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) again?

[جوري]

But I'll ignore reality and accept PA's idea that theres hundreds of thousands of naked,pregnant, booze-swilling, drugged up 10 year olds swarming around the west in a wanton cycle of debauchery.
!

what a dynamo of a hyperbole you are... lol.. good ole goose, always good for a laugh... I am not the one who wrote the article... it is indeed the sad reality for folks of certain socio-economic conditions and immoral upbringing... can you relate? is that why you get so heated and hyper imaginative?

reminds you of your extended fam.?

cheerio shmo

[The Ruler]

I remember once i've been told that zina will be punish in this world and hereafter.

I don't think zina is quite the thing. It's when you have that with infected people unprotected. It can occur within married couples too.

U.S. sets record in sexual disease cases

That's not that surprising really. I mean, if UK can't set the record, USA deffinitely will.

:w:

[Cognescenti]

I always love it when you teach me something new :shade:

Cool. Get used to it.

I am a citizen of the world.. why does my nationality concern you? living in bloody England for two years hardly makes me English.. just makes me into travel!

Ah..as you are an English learner not quite fluent in English I will pass off your inappropriate use of the first person plural pronoun "we" as in "we ..Americans" as an innocent mistake. I would hate to think you were trying to deceptively bolster your credibility by pretending to be American.

I don't know.. but as a general rule..it is easy not to partake in threads that don't appeal to you...this isn't afly trap.. you don't have to hover around :coolious:

I don't know.. are they?


This is an islamic forum.. gasp.. people will be Muslim here and in favor of Islamic values...


No..I tend to think of you as a toothless demented harpy who likes to comment on every thread...

Ah..I miss Ramadan!


cheerio

Doesn't take you long to descend to personal insult does it?

[Cognescenti]

That's not that surprising really. I mean, if UK can't set the record, USA deffinitely will.

:w:

Very clever sis. Clearly you didn't see the data that Kading posted...or does the real world not matter to you?

[جوري]

Cool. Get used to it.

I don't think you are particularly familiar with sarcasm?

Ah..as you are an English learner not quite fluent in English I will pass off your inappropriate use of the first person plural pronoun "we" as in "we ..Americans" as an innocent mistake. I would hate to think you were trying to deceptively bolster your credibility by pretending to be American.

I don't know what that means.. frankly couldn't give a flying fig... aren't you a bit too old for play ground pranks?

Doesn't take you long to descend to personal insult does it?

Since you can pose and answer your own q's... I don't think there is room for a two way exchange ey?


cheerio

[The Ruler]

Very clever sis. Clearly you didn't see the data that Kading posted...or does the real world not matter to you?

To be honest, no I didn't see the data Kading posted. Real world? Tell me how it is, will you please?

:w:

[The Ruler]

Very clever sis. Clearly you didn't see the data that Kading posted...or does the real world not matter to you?

1999? I don't think I can trust that data after 8 years.

Besides, first thing they taught me in school is how the government likes to play with their data.

:w:

[Cognescenti]

BTW....PA< as long as you are going to use Yiddish insults (which is pretty funny I have to admit), please try to get the spelling right.

It's spelled "Schmo" :thumbs_up

[Cognescenti]

I don't think you are particularly familiar with sarcasm?

I love sarcasm.

I don't know what that means.. frankly couldn't give a flying fig... aren't you a bit too old for play ground pranks?

Ah, you mean like pretending to be someone one isn't to add credibility to one's argument?

[جوري]

Very clever sis. Clearly you didn't see the data that Kading posted...or does the real world not matter to you?

lol.. we are all amused indeed with his 1999 data of 'selective' reported disease...
Do you know the first thing about epidemiology.. or do you choose to subscribe to selective naivete as others subscribe to obsolete data?

I got to call it a day before I lose my sanity on these fogies!



cheerio

[جوري]

I love sarcasm.

Try to espouse lady sarcasm then and know her traits so when she dropps in, you'd recognize her.

Ah, you mean like pretending to be someone one isn't to add credibility to one's argument?

Now.. that seems to me like a clear case of projection. coming from a so-called 'Cognescenti' who in the very least should be on top of current trends...
and again I say.. where I come from or don't come from is none of your concern--- so take a hike demented harpie...
ya3ni bil3rabi 7il 3ana ya mal3oon :D

there is no use pretending .. I had to let my true self shine through...
izhab ila jouhnama wa'bes almaseer insha'Allah

eh that one was itching me too..


cheerio

[Cognescenti]

To be honest, no I didn't see the data Kading posted. Real world? Tell me how it is, will you please?

:w:

Gladly. The CDC publishes data about the highest recorded number of identified chlamydia cases in the US (compared only to previous US figures) and the world-would-be-better-without-the-Godless-kaffir-crowd gathers round to watch the walls of Neo-Gomorrah come tumbling down, clucking all the time. I hope someone brought the all-beef franks and a bar-b-q.

Note that the rate of treatable STD's is lower in North America than it is in North Africa and the Middle East. :)

Note also that there is a new emphasis on routine screeing of young women for chlamydia with a new simple urine test. The old methodology was slow and cumbersome, requiring a culture and an invasive exam to obtain the culture. The tratment for chlamydia is fairly easy so the old approach was to simply treat anyone who had symptoms or high risk behavior and might have chlamydia. Note also that this old approach was not reportable. With the new test done routinely during routine, preventive exams, the laboratory is required to report positives to the CDC.

Can you see where I am going with this?

Of course, you could continue to insult at least 80% of the English-speaking world by making childish generalizations about the US and UK. Enjoy the Bar BQ

[NoName55]

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This is an islamic forum.. gasp.. people will be Muslim here and in favor of Islamic values...


....

I used to think that too, until I started seeing threads like this and the calibre of moderation!

place is full of nothing but shills who start useless threads like this then all manner of anti-Islam element is let loose .

http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...tml#post860320
every single thread in open forums is used to undermine Islam in subtle ways and some not so subtle!

Maybe my understanding of Islamic history is wrong so could you help me out a little bit? I don't remember but how old was Aisha when she was given to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) again?

:w:

[Cognescenti]

lol.. we are all amused indeed with his 1999 data of 'selective' reported disease...
Do you know the first thing about epidemiology.. or do you choose to subscribe to selective naivete as others subscribe to obsolete data?

Yes. I do know the first thing about epdiemiology, thank you. Do you?

Third world data always lags behind the data from the developed world. That's why it's the third world.

You highlight the word "selective" like it is some kind of conspiracy. It merely means "not all" in this context. ^o)

I got to call it a day before I lose my sanity on these fogies!
cheerio

Cheerio. Have a pleasant retreat (in both the respite from stress and withdrawal from battle after defeat sense)

[Umm Yoosuf]

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