format_quote Originally Posted by
Muezzin
See? This is what happens in a system without lawyers who aren't provided by the people prosecuting you. Insanity!
All those people released? 'Well, sorry about those years we kept you locked up without charge, sorry for the misunderstanding, no hard feelings, yes? Cheerio! Oh, and by the way, when you get home, they'll probably keep you under observation for a few more years, but no hard feelings, eh? Bye!'
Strange days...
Yes, quite a shame isn't it? Bad things can happen to you if you get up one morning to go bus tables at the World Trade Center or try to fly to Grandma's house from Logan Airport...bad things can happen to you if you join an international terror organization and are caught walking around Tora Bora with a Kalshnikov. It's the crazy randomness of it all.
Can someone offer a plausible explanation for the presence of so many Saudi nationals in rural Afghanistan in the vicintiy of big cahes of weapons
before the arrival of the US? Let me suggest a few:
1) I came to fight the Soviets and stayed for the nightlife.
2) I am here for the Taliban music festival.
3) I am here for the Taliban film festival.
4) I am here for the Taliban Beaujolais nouveaux festical.
5) I am here for the capture the headless goat tournament.
6) I am touring the ancient Buddhist statue sites.
7) I am here for my...cousin's..yeah that's it..my cousin's wedding.
Come on guys. We all know what the Saudis and Yemenis were doing there. Half are probably 3rd cousins of OBL and almost all are adherents to a certain strict interpretation of a certain religion whose very mention on this forum will result in a series of these things in the post *********
At least a native Pashto speaker
might have a case he was swept up by the Northern Alliance or Musharraf or the Israel Secret Service or Kabul Eagle Scout Post #321..
The US is faulted for holding detainees at G'itmo and they are faulted for releasing them. Hmmmm? They are faulted for returning detainees to their country of origin or for trying them. They are faulted for not offering proper care for a cataract in the same detainee whose life was doubtless saved by an American surgeon after he sustained an otherwise mortal chest wound throwing hand grenades around and for his loss of eyesight when the problem was likely a piece of hot metal from his own hand grenade. We are told that solitary confinement is torture. We are told that "not reading him his rights" is torture. We are told the Red Cross was duped when it toured G'itmo. The disrepecting the Quran story at G'itmo turned out to be completely false. How many people here know that?
Who, besides Saudi Arabia is going to take back or offer asylum to Saudis captured hanging out with the homies at Tora Bora? Do you think any country in Europe wants them? Egypt? Indonesia? China? Iran?
Note there is no discussion about the treatment of US prisoners in the custody of various arms of AQ. Anyone want to have a guess why that is?
There are more than a few here who need to take their blinders off.