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Cognescenti
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Hey Pal, who said anything about attacking? It is a simple question of physics. The most difficult part of making a nuclear bomb is getting your hands on sufficient fissionable material (Uranium 235 or Plutonium usually although it is even possible to use Amerecium). Plutonium is man made in nuclear reactors. Iran has no reactors to do this so if they awant fissionable material they need to acquire U235. Uranium 235 is only present in natural Uranium in small amounts so it has to be concentrated against a big gradient to a high level of purity. This is VERY expensive and technologically difficult. The Iranians are still doing this as we speak. This has to be costing them big money and consuming massive amounts of electrical power to do this. Why would the possibly choose to do this when the Russians have offered to sell them Uranium fuel for nuclear reactors at a cost they could not hope to match? Nobody trusts the Iranians not to divert the stuff when they have it. Why do they not trust them? Because they intentionally hid their program from the IAEA in violation of treaty obligations.
Maybe they have "stopped" actively trying to make a bomb...maybe not. But do you realize the meaning of the word "to stop"??? It means they were trying to do so in the past. Do you think they lost the plans? Try not to be so dense. Let something that doesn't fit your template permaeate your head every once in a while (if Allah wills it of course).
BTW..I am prepared to make a bet with anyone on the forum that the US will not attack Iran (unless overtly attacked first) while Bush is in office. I would sugest $50-100. I would bet more because it is a good bet but I wouldn't trust 90% of you to pay me. If you can't bet for religious resaons then the loser will donate to a charity of the winner's choice (not :D Holyland Foundation )
you prove my point, all you have is SPECULATION, ohhhhhh their doing this, so ohhhhhhh they must want that! in terms of debating thats a fallacy.
iran has stated they are doing this for peaceful means and as a way for the future to have good atomic energy etc etc. now you dont believe them, but who cares what you believe or not, the REPORTS AND FACTS say iran isnt building a bomb, and you say ohhhhhhh their enriching uranium which iran has said is for peaceful means and again you respond by saying ohhhhhhhh its a lie they want a bomb not peace! and i ask where is the actual proof that theyre making a bomb? oh wait a minute, there is none!!!!!!!!!
again, BRING ACTUAL FACTS that theyre making a bomb, not ohhh theyre enriching uranium thefore they want to make a bomb! iran has already denied that.
as for being so secret about it, actually they havent been SO SECRET about it many times theyve given reports even the IAE stated Iran are being open and so on.
and quite frankly why should iran be open with every program it does? oh its a treaty agreement? oh really? perhaps america and israel should start doing the same then and start telling us about all the great millitary and civillian technology that they work on and even make yet keep secret.
its even doubly funny that israel is FULLY SECRET about its own nuclear program then all of you want to turn and point fingers at iran? iran, a nation that NEVER attacked another country first, unlike israel who has time and time again attacked countries first, and were supposed to be worried about iran who have no bomb, arent making a bomb, dont make wars! what a joke.
even IF iran was making a bomb, you know what? why not? id be happy if they made a bomb, usa makes so many nukes, israel has done it, so why not iran? ohhhhhh they said we wanna wipe israel off the map! oh nooooooo theyre so mean now! forget about israel who used to say they will kick all palestinians and arabs out and DID follow on their words on several occasions, but oh nooooooo lets worry about iran because of one comment they made which was even mis-translated. iran has every single right to have a bomb with terrorist israel beside them always making threats and killing and oppressing the Muslims of the region.
its really funny, we see this EVERYDAY AND EVERY YEAR. first with the palestinians, the israelis act like their the victims, yes, israel with f-16's, the best tanks, one of the most advanced millitaries in the world, and the strongest in the mid-east, and even have nukes, and yes, their the victims, while the very very oppressing palestinians with rocks, ak's, and katushya's who have to carry id's and pass through checkpoints which delays by 3 hours to reach a place which only takes 5 mins are the realllllll bad oppressing ppl!
and now same with iran, iran with no nuclear bomb, with no proof of even making a bomb, a country who never attacked another nation, yes they are the very very evil scary ones, while israel the sweet innocent angel who HAS nuclear bombs and every other type of chemical and biological weapon, who have ATTACKED other countries first, who HAVE killed thousands of innocent Muslim arabs, yes they are the good guys and the oppressed ones who's survival is at stake.
its all a JOKE, the biggest JOKE that has ever been portrayed to the public. oh yes lets not forget america, the only nation to have used an atomic bomb! i mean unless you were a human you would honestly not believe this cr@p! it sounds so unbelievable yet its true! if an alien came here and we told this to them theyd laugh at us saying haha nice once, the oppresser is acting like the oppressed! then wed say, its true, no joke, no script!!!!!!!!!