Originally Posted by Imaan
Couldn't say. I live in Britain, which is very good about religious freedoms, though there have been incursions into civil liberties lately - but it's nothing too bad, on balance. There's freedom of the press for instance, fredom of movement, race hate laws and the judiciary has independence and integrity. On the other hand, there's always room for improvement. The economy seems to be going down the drain what with all this insane inflation, nobody wants to hold a referendum about the EC, not that many people actually turn up to vote, there's a binge drinking sub-culture that nobody seems to want to deal with etc.
Certain areas in Britain are better than others when it comes to things like multiculturalism. Most people in the East Midlands tend to be very open, tolerant and friendly, for example.
I think South Africa 100%. We are free to do what we like, practice our religion freely as well. I wear full hijaab as well. We have Jews, Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Blacks all living happily together, respecting each other.
Excellent. One of my friends is South African. Great guy. I tried to get him to teach me Afrikaan.
Originally Posted by Resigned
And? Democracies are not perfect and have slid into dictatorships (I don't want to invoke Godwin's law, and mentioning Romans conjures toga imagery...). If you're not saying that they're perfect, and I've misinterpreted your words, I apologise.
That individuals have political freedom is a prerequisite for the long-term protection of other freedoms, but it's not a certainty that it will succeed in providing it. People are free to choose to be oppressed, and very frequently do, as the "Palestinians" did, as the Egyptians did.
But earlier in your post you state democracy is 'incapable of generating irresponsible, militaristic, totalitarian regimes'. Unless I'm misinterpreting your words, which I hope I am, you seem to be saying 'well, yeah, it works when it works, and when it doesn't work, then it wasn't really democracy to begin with'. Which is just circular.
My own standing on such things - democracy is simply a prevalent ideology, with its own advantages and disadvantages. The concept of ideologies are simultaneously one of humanity's greatest strengths and greatest weaknesses, since human beings are the only organisms on this planet that are prepared to kill each other over an idea or belief. Not even an idea or belief that has physically manifested necessarily, but even those in what you might call an embryonic stage. War is like... intellectual abortion.