assumptions about violence towards women

[caroline]

A person on another thread made an underhanded slam against Islam suggesting there is more violence against women in Islam than there is in the West (US).

Here are some facts on violence against women in the US (a supposedly Christian nation):

* Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4
* Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime, according to the National Violence Against Women Survey, conducted from November 1995 to May 1996.5
* Thirty percent of Americans say they know a woman who has been physically abused by her husband or boyfriend in the past year.6
* In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner.7
* Intimate partner violence is primarily a crime against women. In 2001, women accounted for 85 percent of the victims of intimate partner violence (588,490 total) and men accounted for approximately 15 percent of the victims (103,220 total).8
* While women are less likely than men to be victims of violent crimes overall, women are five to eight times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate partner.9
* In 2001, intimate partner violence made up 20 percent of violent crime against women. The same year, intimate partners committed three percent of all violent crime against men.10
* As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy.11
* Women of all races are about equally vulnerable to violence by an intimate.12
* Male violence against women does much more damage than female violence against men; women are much more likely to be injured than men.13
* The most rapid growth in domestic relations caseloads is occurring in domestic violence filings. Between 1993 and 1995, 18 of 32 states with three year filing figures reported an increase of 20 percent or more.14
* Women are seven to 14 times more likely than men to report suffering severe physical assaults from an intimate partner.15

Domestic Homicides

* On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
* Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
* Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
* Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women, followed by cancer, acute and chronic respiratory conditions, motor vehicle collisions and drug overdose, peripartum and postpartum cardiomyopthy, and suicide.20

Health Issues

* The health-related costs of rape, physical assault, stalking and homicide committed by intimate partners exceed $5.8 billion each year. Of that amount, nearly $4.1 billion are for direct medical and mental health care services, and nearly $1.8 billion are for the indirect costs of lost productivity or wages.21
* About half of all female victims of intimate violence report an injury of some type, and about 20 percent of them seek medical assistance.22
* Thirty-seven percent of women who sought treatment in emergency rooms for violence-related injuries in 1994 were injured by a current or former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend.23

Domestic Violence and Youth

* Approximately one in five female high school students reports being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner.24
* Eight percent of high school age girls said “yes” when asked if “a boyfriend or date has ever forced sex against your will.”25
* Forty percent of girls age 14 to 17 report knowing someone their age who has been hit or beaten by a boyfriend.26
* During the 1996-1997 school year, there were an estimated 4,000 incidents of rape or other types of sexual assault in public schools across the country.27

Domestic Violence and Children

* In a national survey of more than 6,000 American families, 50 percent of the men who frequently assaulted their wives also frequently abused their children.28
* Slightly more than half of female victims of intimate violence live in households with children under age 12.29
* Studies suggest that between 3.3 - 10 million children witness some form of domestic violence annually.30

Rape

* Three in four women (76 percent) who reported they had been raped and/or physically assaulted since age 18 said that a current or former husband, cohabiting partner, or date committed the assault.31
* One in five (21 percent) women reported she had been raped or physically or sexually assaulted in her lifetime.32
* Nearly one-fifth of women (18 percent) reported experiencing a completed or attempted rape at some time in their lives; one in 33 men (three percent) reported experiencing a completed or attempted rape at some time in their lives.33
* In 2000, 48 percent of the rapes/sexual assaults committed against people age 12 and over were reported to the police.34
* In 2001, 41,740 women were victims of rape/sexual assault committed by an intimate partner.35
* Rapes/sexual assaults committed by strangers are more likely to be reported to the police than rapes/sexual assaults committed by “nonstrangers,” including intimate partners, other relatives and friends or acquaintances. Between 1992 and 2000, 41 percent of the rapes/sexual assaults committed by strangers were reported to the police. During the same time period, 24 percent of the rapes/sexual assaults committed by an intimate were reported.36

Stalking

* Annually in the United States, 503,485 women are stalked by an intimate partner.37
* Seventy-eight percent of stalking victims are women. Women are significantly more likely than men (60 percent and 30 percent, respectively) to be stalked by intimate partners.38
* Eighty percent of women who are stalked by former husbands are physically assaulted by that partner and 30 percent are sexually assaulted by that partner.39

1U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends, March 1998
2The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, May 1999
3Heise, L., Ellsberg, M. and Gottemoeller, M. Ending Violence Against Women. Population Reports, Series L, No. 11., December 1999
4The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, May 1999
5The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and The National Institute of Justice, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence, July 2000.
6Lieberman Research Inc., Tracking Survey conducted for The Advertising Council and the Family Violence Prevention Fund, July – October 1996
7Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
8Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
9U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends, March 1998
10Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
11Gazmararian JA, Petersen R, Spitz AM, Goodwin MM, Saltzman LE, Marks JS. “Violence and reproductive health; current knowledge and future research directions.” Maternal and Child Health Journal 2000;4(2):79-84.
12Bureau of Justice Statistics, Violence Against Women: Estimates from the Redesigned Survey, August 1995
13Murray A. Straus and Richard J. Gelles, Physical Violence in American Families, 1990
14Examining the Work of State Courts, 1995: A National Perspective from the Court Statistics Project. National Center for the State Courts, 1996
15National Institute of Justice and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November 1998
16Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
17Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
18Horon, I., & Cheng, D., (2001). Enhanced Surveillance for Pregnancy-Associated Mortality - Maryland, 1993 - 1998. The Journal of the American Medical Association, 285, No. 11, March 21, 2001.
19Frye, V. (2001). Examining Homicide's Contribution to Pregnancy-Associated Deaths. The Journal of the American Medical Association, 285, No. 11, March 21, 2001
20Nannini, A., Weiss, J., Goldstein, R., & Fogerty, S., (2002). Pregnancy-Associated Mortality at the End of the Twentieth Century: Massachusetts, 1990 – 1999. Journal of the American Medical Women’s Association, Vol. 57, No. 23, Summer 2002.
21Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Costs of Intimate Partner Violence Against Women in the United States, April 2003.
22National Crime Victimization Survey, 1992-96; Study of Injured Victims of Violence, 1994
23U.S. Department of Justice, Violence Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments, August 1997
24Jay G. Silverman, PhD; Anita Raj, PhD; Lorelei A. Mucci, MPH; and Jeanne E. Hathaway, MD, MPH, “Dating Violence Against Adolescent Girls and Associated Substance Use, Unhealthy Weight Control, Sexual Risk Behavior, Pregnancy, and Suicidality,” Journal of the American Medical Association, Vol. 286, No. 5, 2001
25The Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, November 1997
26Children Now/Kaiser Permanente poll, December 1995
27U.S. Department of Education, Violence and Discipline Problems in U.S. Public Schools: 1996-1997
28Strauss, Murray A, Gelles, Richard J., and Smith, Christine. 1990. Physical Violence in American Families; Risk Factors and Adaptations to Violence in 8,145 Families. New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers
29U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends, March 1998
30Carlson, Bonnie E. (1984). Children's observations of interpersonal violence. Pp. 147-167 in A.R. Roberts (Ed.) Battered women and their families (pp. 147-167). NY: Springer. Straus, M.A. (1992). Children as witnesses to marital violence: A risk factor for lifelong problems among a nationally representative sample of American men and women. Report of the Twenty-Third Ross Roundtable. Columbus, OH: Ross Laboratories.
31U.S. Department of Justice, Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November 1998
32The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, May 1999
33National Institute of Justice and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,, Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November 1998
34Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report, Reporting Crime to the Police, 1992-2000, March 2003
35Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003
36Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report, Reporting Crime to the Police, 1992-2000, March 2003
37Patricia Tjaden and Nancy Thoennes, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence, National Institute of Justice, 2000
38Center for Policy Research, Stalking in America, July 1997
39Center for Policy Research, Stalking in America, July 1997

[Woodrow]

An abuser is an abuser is an abuser. Yet a characteristic is an abuser seldom sees himself as an abuser, the attitude is abuse is what the other guy does, rights are what we do.

It is true abuse of women is rampant here in the USA however, we tend to not want to call it abuse. So we limit our concept of abuse to what somebody far removed from us does.

[Isambard]

Im curious. If you are trying to show that nations with muslims majorities are not more violent towards women than western nations, then why not pick a secular nation (I dunno, maybe Canada or Finland) and compare it to a muslim majority nation (like say Saudi Arabia or Iran)?

I think Wilbers critisizim holds.

[wilberhum]

Im curious. If you are trying to show that nations with muslims majorities are not more violent towards women than western nations, then why not pick a secular nation (I dunno, maybe Canada or Finland) and compare it to a muslim majority nation (like say Saudi Arabia or Iran)?

I think Wilbers critisizim holds.

I'm not sure how I become involved in this.

The fact that we have a misogynistic Muslim on the forum does not equate to Muslims being Misogynistic.

Having said that, you can never compare stats with negative connotations between countries that have freedom of speech and press with those that don't.

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[جوري]

canada.. come to the world next door.. here you go.....

Statistics Sheet:
Violence Against Women




In July 2000, Statistics Canada released results from the 1999 General Social Survey on Victimization (Bunge and Levett 2000). This survey measured spousal violence on a smaller scale than the 1993 Violence Against Women Survey (VAWS), the first ever national study on violence against women in this country. The results from VAWS, along with statistics from other studies, are now used in annual reports on family violence that assist us in understanding the prevalence of and trends in violence against women in Canada. These studies unfortunately do not address the incidence and prevalence of violence against women partners in visible minority and immigrant communities (see McDonald 1999).

The statistics below are taken from these reports and other studies.

In 1999, more than 27,000 cases of spousal violence were reported to police departments across the country. Eighty-seven percent of the victims were women. (Bunge and Levett 2000, 21)


In 1996, approximately 80% of victims of criminal harassment were women. Over half of all female victims of criminal harassment were harassed by ex-spouses or other intimate partners. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 3)


Between 1979 and 1998, 1468 women were killed by their husbands, compared with 433 men killed by their wives. (Statistics Canada 2000, 6)


In 1996, 49% of family homicides involved spouses. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 28)


In 1996, in 56% of all spousal homicides, investigating officers had knowledge of previous domestic violence between victims and suspects. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 32)


In reported incidents of assault against woman partners in 1996, 72% of women were assaulted by a current spouse, and 28% were assaulted by a former or estranged spouse. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 6)


According to the Violence Against Women Survey (VAWS), 29% of ever married women have been assaulted by their partners at least once. (Statistics Canada 1993, 4)


According to the VAWS, 16% of women interviewed reported being kicked, hit, beaten, sexually assaulted or having a gun or knife used against them; 11% reported being pushed, shoved or slapped; 2% reported only threats or having something thrown at them. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 10)


Of women who indicated that they had been victims of spousal violence in the VAWS, only 26% had reported an incident to police. (Statistics Canada 1993, 7) The 1999 General Social Survey found that in the five year period prior to the survey, 37% of women who had been victims of spousal violence had reported an incident to police (Statistics Canada 2000, 5)


Women are three times as likely to report the incident(s) to police if their children witnessed violence against them, four times more likely if a weapon was used against them, and five times more likely to call the police if they feared for their lives. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 11)


Most women interviewed in the VAWS did not call the police for protection or help in ending the violence. This included: 57% of women who were injured by their partners, 51% of women who were assaulted more than ten times, and almost half of all abused women who feared for their lives. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 11)


Twelve percent of Canadian women aged 18-24 reported at least one incident of violence by an intimate partner in a one-year period, compared with the national average of 3% of all married or cohabiting women. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 14)


There is a fourfold difference in rates of violence against women living in common-law relationships compared with women in registered marriages (9% and 2%, respectively). (Bunge and Levett 1998, 14)


Thirty-five percent of all women interviewed in the VAWS who had ever been married or lived with a man in a common-law relationship had been subjected to some form of emotional abuse. This can include: verbal attacks, ridicule, isolation from family and friends, jealousy and unwarranted accusations about infidelity, possessiveness, damage to or destruction of property, torture or killing of pets, and threats to harm children or other family members. (Bunge and Levett 1998,15)


Three quarters of Canadian women who were assaulted or threatened also described their partners as controlling in one or more ways. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 15)


Seventeen percent of women in an intact relationship reported some form of emotional abuse. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 15)


The VAWS found that women in violent relationships were twice as likely to have witnessed their own fathers assaulting their mothers and were three times as likely as women in non-violent relationships to state that their spouse had witnessed violence as a child. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 16)


Fifty-one percent of violent partners were usually drinking at the time of the assaults. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 16)


In a Canada-wide "snapshot" taken on May 31, 1995, there were 2361 women accompanied by 2217 children living in shelters across the country. Four out of five women were there to escape an abusive situation, the majority from abuse by a current partner (64%) or ex-partner (21%). (Bunge and Levett 1998, 18)


In the twelve months prior to this "snapshot" taken on May 31, 1995, 365 shelters across Canada recorded over 85,000 admissions. On a typical day, they receive approximately 3000 requests from non-residents. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


The majority of women who entered a shelter were victims of physical abuse (70%). Almost half of the women reported threats of abuse, and one fifth had experienced sexual abuse. (These numbers add up to more than 100% because many women experienced multiple forms of abuse.) (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


Twenty-five percent of women who entered shelters in 1995 had injuries that required medical attention, and 3% required hospitalization. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


One third of women entering shelters in 1995 reported the incident to police. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


Although shelter residents are often the most severely abused women, charges were laid in only 56% of the cases that were reported to the police. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


Two thirds of women admitted to a shelter in 1995 were under the age of 35, while less than five percent were over 55 years of age. (Bunge and Levett 1998, 19)


Women who are between 15 and 19 years of age are twice as likely as older women to be killed in a violent marriage. (Wilson and Daly 1994, 10)


Forty-two percent of women with disabilities have been or are in abusive relationships. (DisAbled Women’s Network 1989)


Eight in ten Aboriginal women in Ontario reported having personally experienced violence. (Ontario Native Women’s Association 1989, 7)


Between 75% and 90% of women in some northern Aboriginal communities are battered. (Dumont-Smith and Sioui Labelle 1991, 18)


Immigrant and refugee women often stay in abusive relationships because of isolation, few economic resources, a lack of employment or underemployment and language barriers. (Bhola and Nelson 1990, C-4)


Fear of deportation and fear of the police often keep immigrant and refugee women from reporting domestic violence.(Bhola and Nelson 1990, B-35)


Works Cited

Bhola, S. and T. Nelson. 1990. Cross-Cultural Training Manual: Service Providers Training Manual. Calgary: Calgary Immigrant Woman’s Centre.

Bunge, V. P., and A. Levett. 2000. Family Violence: A Statistical Profile. Ottawa: Statistics Canada, Ministry of Industry.

Bunge, V. P., and A. Levett. 1998. Family Violence: A Statistical Profile. Ottawa: Statistics Canada, Ministry of Industry.

DisAbled Women’s Network. 1989. Breaking the Odds: Violence Against Women with DisAbilities. Position Paper #2. Toronto: DAWN.

Dumont-Smith, C. and P. Sioui Labelle. 1991. Dragging Wife Abuse Out of the Closet. Cited in National Family Violence Abuse Study/Evaluation. Aboriginal Nurses of Canada.

Gurr, J., L. Mailloux, D. Kinnon and S. Doerage. 1999. Breaking the Links Between Poverty and Violence Against Women: A Resource Guide. Ottawa: Ministry of Health. Retrieved August 21, 2000 from the World Wide Web: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/familyvi.../1breaking.htm

McDonald, S. 1999. Not in the Numbers: Immigrant Women and Domestic Abuse. Canadian

Woman Studies. 19:3, 163-167.

Ontario Native Women’s Association. 1989. Breaking Free: A Proposal for Change to Aboriginal Family Violence. Thunder Bay.

Statistics Canada. November 18, 1993. The Violence Against Women Survey. The Daily. Ottawa: Ministry of Industry.

Statistics Canada. July 25, 2000. Family violence 1999. The Daily. Ottawa: Ministry of Industry.

Wilson, M. and M. Daly. March 1994. Spousal Homicide. Juristat Service Bulletin. 14:8.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to M.L. Beiner who researched and wrote the first drafts of this material, Susan McDonald who edited and wrote the final edition of this flyer, and all METRAC colleagues who provided insight and support in the preparation process.


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[caroline]

I am just trying to show how erroneous assumptions often are. I am trying to show that it is easy for us, as human beings (especially Westerners) to make assumptions based on stereotypes and point fingers without ever taking time to look at the three fingers that are pointing back at us. As the Bible says, "Instead of pointing out the splinter in someone else's eye, why don't you take the log out of your own first?"

I am trying to point out that many of our perceptions of Muslims are false, ethnocentric stereotypes that we've bought into without thinking. And when you compare the real facts side by side you might see that our own cultures are just as violent towards women... perhaps more.

And maybe, while we're doing some introspection, we might ask ourselves "Why?"

[snakelegs]

i'm afraid that women are subjected to violence all over the world. :unhappy:

[al_islam]

I believe violence can be either way :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4VeaA6rXGrs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W3djfQvq_EI&feature=related

[MartyrX]

Its hard to prove these allegations no matter what country you are from. So much violence goes unreported that the statistics could be much larger. I have friends who have been in abusive relationships and never told a soul. I know the numbers would be huge.

[Pk_#2]

i'm afraid that women are subjected to violence all over the world. :unhappy:

Ohh, don't be sad, we can pray for them together! Or we can jump the brothers together!, no wait we will just pray for them!

Wilbert you're so silly! Dun ask you're always silly.

[Talha777]

Violence against woman is overrated and overexaggerated.

[wilberhum]

Violence against woman is overrated and overexaggerated.

And what brings that assumption on?

Others have presented stats, do you have any?

Do you think your desire to slap women is normal?

[Talha777]

Wilberhum, get a life.

[Isambard]

.

Id say you are preaching to the choir.

Wilber's remarks have more to do with individual member(s) who hide behind "religion" to discriminate. It is curious though there doesnt seem to be much outrage agaisnt these folks thou...:hiding:

[Intisar]

Violence against woman is overrated and overexaggerated.

Astaghfirullah. :uuh: :muddlehea Allaah is watching akhi.

Violence against women is real. It's funny how men who do so, do so under the premise of religion, when they really know that it's only their fault. In what way can violence against women be overrated and overexaggerated? It's horrible, and unless you've ever experienced anything that's even come CLOSE to it, then I say suggest you take that back and ask for forgiveness from Allaah.

[snakelegs]

Astaghfirullah. :uuh: :muddlehea Allaah is watching akhi.

Violence against women is real. It's funny how men who do so, do so under the premise of religion, when they really know that it's only their fault. In what way can violence against women be overrated and overexaggerated? It's horrible, and unless you've ever experienced anything that's even come CLOSE to it, then I say suggest you take that back and ask for forgiveness from Allaah.

you are talking to a man who has said on another thread
(http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...tml#post884369)

I think he was intended on giving her a really good beating. He may have used a knife for this reason, and due to his understandable anger wanted to just about kill her, but I don't think what ended up happening as unfortunate as it was was his actual intention. I think he should not be given a life sentence and the court should take into account his intention and the fact any muslim parent would be outraged if their daughter was acting like this girl aqsa parvez.

Wife is never allowed to hit her husband. Best analogy i can give is parents spank their kids to discipline them, but who ever heard of children spanking their parents ?

[snakelegs]

ooops - i momentarily forgot the wonderful thread he created here:

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/...s-smaller.html

such views are fuel for the fires of those who point to islam and accuse it of being misogynistic.

Women's brains are smaller - 22 Hours Ago

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Assalamu alaikum.

I always used to wander why often women are less intelligent than men. Now I was reading in a magazine (or newspaper?) article that their brains are smaller. On average a man's brain weighs 1.25 kg while woman's brain is at most 100 grams or less. Obviously this is a modern discovery, but isn't it interesting our Prophet Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salam) knew women are less intelligent 1400 years ago. He never cracked open any skulls and measured their brains, how did he know unless Allah told him?

Prophet Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salam) said:
"I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)."
(Sahih Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301)

[wilberhum]

If you think any of these are bad, you should see the PM he sent me. On second thought, you shouldn't see it.

He also said something to the effect that he just wanted to slap women who don not cover properly.

Another nice one is

Calling american women as prostitutes is an insult to the prostitutes.

I wounder how all you American women feel about that?

[snakelegs]

it is in the same category as calling muslims terrorists. the statement of a person who hates.

[Intisar]

I'm so sad right now, you guys don't even understand, I feel like crying subhan Allaah. :cry: :cry: Allaah only has the right to judge, and by making those comments you're acting far from the way an ''Ideal Muslim'' should. So akhi, as I've said time and time again, Allaah is watching over everything we do. Everything we say and do are being written down. I urge you to re-think those comments that you've made, and go and seek repentance from Allaah Ta'ala.

You realize you've insulted many of your own Muslims sisters? You're making those that genuinely want to learn about the deen, subsequently run away from it. Non-Muslims are acting more rational than you are. Those comments disgust me. I don't even want to read it anymore.

Does this forum have an ignore function?

PS. Thank you for the name calling akhi, I tried to give sincere naseeha and that's your response. May Allaah guide you.