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confused43
try this in every religion, you are made in your god's image, you are given a life's path to do with what you chose, but know that some paths will lead you closer to your god and some will lead you, further from your god , and with every religion you will not be excepted into heaven or paradise if you do not do as your god wants, everything sounds incredibly similar to me all except where does it say in any religion, your allowed to take hostages shoot innocent people. and kill people for freedom of expression that is like, i may not understand the fight and the need that you have but i do worry about the world we live in today , what are the islams killing people for and can't this be stopped somehow, i don't want to be killed someday because i do not understand your religion , i joined this forum to get insight and try to not be so stupid to the world issues but it really scares me more really
The issue of is of what is your starting point-it is the sayings and ways of evil doers. They are actually dictating what they wish to live by and if people don't accept it, they wish to treat them as if they are in the wrong, ie homosexuality, people are now being conditioned to believe that this is OK, that having sex outside of marriage is OK. So treating people badly (even if they agreed it to, people are having sex, dumping, finding someone else, dumping them-no value or respect attached to people). To go up people's back sides is not respecting people.
So as above whilst they do no respect people, they tell us to respect them. They are basically telling us to respect their evil!
Now going back to the issue of people being killed, dying, we as Muslims are not treating those people who were killed in Paris no differently to anyone who was brought up as a Muslim. Here is a scenario;-
I am going to draw a cartoon of my neighbours' mother, and stick it in front of my house, perhaps put mud on it, now when I see my neighbour, I am going to tell them;-
-you need to respect and tolerate me, I am an innocent individual, just enjoying myself.
-You need to get along with me OK, because neighbour, if you don't agree with me, then there is something wrong with you.
-I think that you need to go and live somewhere else, if you not willing to accept that I can draw what I like.
In the past people didn't rely on government to tell them about how to treat people with tolerance and respect. Now just because the government is saying you can do what you like-does that mean that you can bleat about it, that you feel your government is going to have to protect you?? It is the fact that people disrespect people more, by the attitude they can do whatever they like and no one can say anything to them, so even if someone mentions something, they say who the hell are you, but at the same time wishing to get people to accept their evil.
So as above, you use the word "
innocent" to describe those people-how are they innocent??? There are plenty of stories in the Muslim world of ie a Muslim robbing and dying in the process, people being abusive and dying-no one cares how they died it is the fact that they have died. They have zero sympathy.
If you wish to use the word innocent, then tell the Muslims that you believe that they are good people who have lived a righteous life and you believe that they are going to Heaven?? Of course as Muslims we are upset when people are attacked ie Christian pensioners getting attacked etc. But to go outright and say that we should fight for abusive cartoon makers=why the hell would I want to protect people who wish to be abusive?? I am responsible for what I stand for on the Day of Judgement, protecting people who disrespect the Prophet, isn't one of them, that's no difference in supporting Pharoah being abusive to people.
Of course this thread is getting derailed-so please place comments on Paris shooting thread, if you choose to reply.