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Protected_Diamond
09-28-2005, 05:51 PM
salaamualykum and asalamualykum??

coz sumtimes people say salaam??

i mean is that allowed in islam?

it seems wrong to me :confused:
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minaz
09-28-2005, 06:18 PM
yes like in the film "Kingdom of Heaven", they christian and muslims would greet each other with salaam alakium.
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Z
09-28-2005, 06:44 PM
Salaam means peace. Alaikum means upon you. I think.

There's nothing Islamically wrong with that I don't think. Someone who knows Arabic more than me would be able to help here if I'm wrong.
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Vedad
09-28-2005, 07:35 PM
Question #48966: Greeting a kaafir first




Question :

Is it permissible for a Muslim to great a non-Muslim first?.

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on greeting non-Muslims. He replied as follows:

Greeting a non-Muslim first is haraam and is not permitted, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not initiate the greeting with the Jews and Christians, and if you meet them in the street push them towards the narrowest part of it.” But if they greet us we have to respond to them, because of the general meaning of the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally”

[al-Nisa’ 4:86]

The Jews used to greet the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by saying, “Al-saam ‘alaykum ya Muhammad (Death be upon you, O Muhammad),” praying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would die. So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Jews say ‘al-saam ‘alaykum (death be upon you),’ so if they greet you, then say, ‘Wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).’”

If a non-Muslim greets a Muslim by saying “al-saamu ‘alaykum,” then we should respond by saying “wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).” The fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said “wa ‘alaykum” indicates that if they were saying “al-salaamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),” then peace will also be upon them, i.e., whatever they say to us, we say to them. Hence some of the scholars said that if a Jew, Christian or other non-Muslim clearly says “al-salaamu ‘alaykum,” it is permissible for us to say “ ‘alaykum al-salaam (upon you be peace).”

Similarly it is not permissible to initiate a greeting such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome) and the like, because that is a kind of honouring them. But if they say something like that to us, then we should say something similar to them, because the greeting should be returned in like manner and each person should be given his due. It is well known that the Muslims are higher in status before Allaah, so they should not humiliate themselves in front of non-Muslims by greeting them first.

So, in conclusion, it is not permissible for us to greet non-Muslims first, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade that, and because this is a humiliation for the Muslim when he starts to honour a non-Muslim. The Muslim is higher in status before Allaah, so he should not humiliate himself in this manner. But if we are greeted then we should return the greeting in similar terms.

Similarly it is not permissible for us to greet them first with words such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome), Marhaban (hello) and so on, because that is a kind of honouring them, so it is like initiating the greeting of salaams with them. Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/33.

If there is a need to greet a kaafir first, there is no sin in that, but it should be something other than the greeting of salaam, such as saying Ahlan wa sahlan or How are you, etc. In that case the greeting is for a reason, not to honour him.

See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 25/168.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Zaad al-Ma’aad (2/424), concerning greeting a kaafir first:

A group of scholars said: It is permissible to greet him first if that serves a purpose, or for fear of his harm, or because of blood ties, or for a reason that requires that.

And Allaah knows best.



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Ansar Al-'Adl
09-28-2005, 07:54 PM
:sl:
The question is on the difference between "as-salaamu alaykum" and "salaamu alaykum", not on the prohibition of giving salaams to non-muslims.

Actually, I believe the difference between the two is just arabic grammar, that it is supposed to be "as-salaam [peace] alaykum [upon you]". Writing 'salaam' without the 'as- [al-]' is not necessarily wrong, its just not gramatically accurate.

:w:
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strider
09-28-2005, 11:01 PM
Assalamu alaikum

It wouldn't hurt anyone to greet their fellow muslim brother/sister with a beautiful, lengthened greeting. What an easy way to gain more rewards. Never disregard the smallest act of good as useless; you never know it could prove to be your key to Jannah.

Ma'assalama
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Mainul_Islam
09-29-2005, 04:41 AM
Bismillaah-ir-Rahmaan-ir-Raheem.

Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaah,

there shouldnt be anything wrong between "As salaamu alaikum" and "Salaamu alaikum" ... techinically they have the same meaning. in Arabic, "Al" means "The", but since "Salaam" with an "S", the "Al" is changed to "As" (that is what i know from my little knowledge of Arabic grammer). if translated, it would be "the peace be upon you" and "peace be upon you". i know it doesnt sound right adding "the" in English, but i think its proper grammer to add "the" (al) in Arabic. (most of the time, if not all (i dont know))... the same rule applies to words that start with T, Sh, N, D, and R. (not sure if i missed out any). some examples would be (from names of Surahs): At-Tin (#95), Ash-Shams (#91), An-Noor (#24), Ad-Duha (#93), and Ar-Rad (#13).

hope that helps. :)

my knowledgeable brothers and sisters, please correct me if im wrong... because thats what i know from my little knowledge about it. thanks
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Protected_Diamond
09-29-2005, 12:08 PM
:sl:

jazahka Allah 4 replying brpthers and sisters, so there's not that much of a difference hena? is jus i felt as though it was wrong to say salamualykum coz it is suppose 2 b asalamualykum..jazahka allah khyr again 4 replyin

:w:
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Vedad
09-29-2005, 07:44 PM
wa aleykuma assalam wr wb

aint it Als-Salamu Aleykum but u remove the L cause the words starts with s and u can say ASsalamu aleykum??? wa allahu alem...


u can greet in dfferent ways like: Assalamun Aleykum
salamun alayk or alayka,
salam alayk its all valid

Source #1
Source #2

wa aleykum assalam wr wb
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Protected_Diamond
09-29-2005, 07:46 PM
^^sorry bro i've never heard anyone say alsalamualykum :confused:
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#aFrOgUrL#
09-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Yea i know wat ya mean but yea um itz normal i think so yea


A SMILE IZ A CHARITY

PPL PLZ SMILE I AM BEGGIN U THX SIS N BRO

SO EVRY1 SMILE
1................ :)
2............... :D
3................ :)

SO SMILE :sister: DON'T BE :confused: SMILE :D
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#aFrOgUrL#
09-30-2005, 05:50 AM
Soz About The ''yea'' When I Waz Talkin So Yea Just Sayin Sorry!!!!!!!!!
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Protected_Diamond
09-30-2005, 06:36 AM
^^lol..yeah smiling is sunant :) hehe
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#aFrOgUrL#
10-01-2005, 03:02 AM
I Don't Think Theres Anything Wrong But Check N Ask The Pro Peace

Smile Thx Who Evr Smiled Smile
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ummbilal
10-01-2005, 06:29 PM
try saying asalaam alakum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhu

or at least replying to asalaam alakum with walakum salaam wa rahmatulah

all the barakah adds up inshaallah!


i cant stand people who say salaam..without the alakum
it seems so lazy to me, allah has given us this wonderful greeting a blessing to the muslims, use it.

re the question, isnt is just a difference in accent, as in asians say zuhr arabs duhr both mean noon time prayer just with slight accent and different spelling
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Protected_Diamond
10-01-2005, 07:11 PM
insha Allah i will start saying asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakatahu
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Samee
10-01-2005, 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by ~baby girl~
insha Allah i will start saying asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakatahu
Yeah, if only we knew the reward behind it. I should start saying it as well..
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Protected_Diamond
10-01-2005, 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Samiullah
Yeah, if only we knew the reward behind it. I should start saying it as well..
Asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuhu

Insha Allah you will *smiles*

walakumasalaam warahmatulahi wabarakatuhu
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