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minaz
06-09-2005, 05:04 PM
It came to my mind the other day, that are tattoos haraam? Women usually have henna drawn onto them which last up to a lengthy period of time. If tatoos are haraam would it be down to them being a permenant fixture or are their rules (i.e. henna), that just apply it to women i.e. like gold?
p.s. i'm not planning to have a tattoo! :p
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Muezzin
06-09-2005, 05:07 PM
I think they are haraam, though I cannot point to any authority - I'm sure others will be able to.

Henna and Mendhi are allowed for women, since they're not permanent, but also they can still wash their skin - it won't make a layer over it like paint.
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Ibn Syed
06-10-2005, 04:45 PM
I don't really know but I am sure that in my life I will never get a tattoo.
:w:
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Far7an
06-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Assalamu 'alaikum

Thread moved.
you may find this interesting :)

It was narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the one who does tattoos, the one who has a tattoo done, the one who consumes riba (usury or interest) and the one who pays it, and he forbade the price of a dog and the earnings of a prostitute, and he cursed the image-makers.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5032).
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bro_faz
06-11-2005, 10:24 AM
there you go, answer's is yes, it is disfigurement of your body!
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Muezzin
06-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally Posted by bro_faz
there you go, answer's is yes, it is disfigurement of your body!
Which reminds me to ask - I take it plastic surgery too is not permitted, since Allah made us a certain way and it is not up to us to change it?
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bro_faz
06-11-2005, 12:40 PM
apparently yes it is if it is to make you look younger!, however i can't say whether reconstructional plastic surgery is allowed, (for example burns to the face and body! need reconstructing)
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Far7an
06-15-2005, 12:57 AM
Assalamu 'alaikum

Originally Posted by Muezzin
Which reminds me to ask - I take it plastic surgery too is not permitted, since Allah made us a certain way and it is not up to us to change it?
Question :

Assalam'alaicum,
If a woman's body has been altered so much during her pregnancies that she feels ashamed to show herself in front of her husband, is she allowed to have a plastic surgery?
Jezakallahou haera
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.

Your question revolves around the ruling on performing plastic surgery, on which we will give you a brief summary.

Doctors who specialize in plastic or cosmetic surgery define it as surgery performed to improve the appearance of part of the body. This may be done by choice, or because it is necessary.

Plastic surgery that is considered necessary is that which is done when there is a need for it, when something does not look right, when something is missing, if there is too much or too little of something, or because something has been destroyed or deformed. At the same time, it is regarded as “cosmetic” surgery because it results in improved appearance.

Faults may be of two types: physical or congenital faults and faults which result from illness. Congenital faults include abnormally turned-out lips, hare-lips, twisted fingers or toes, etc. Faults which result from illness include the scars left by leprosy or other skin diseases, or scars caused by accidents and burns. There is no doubt that such faults and scars cause physical and psychological pain and harm, therefore Islam allows people afflicted with them to remove or reduce them by surgical means. They cause the kind of mental and psychological pain that allows this surgery as an urgent need, where necessity permits something that is ordinarily forbidden. Any cosmetic surgery which comes under this heading of need because of the fact that the reason for the surgery is causing harm is permissible, and is not considered to be changing the creation of Allaah.

To further understand the difference between what is permitted and what is forbidden, we will quote the words of Imaam al-Nawawi in his commentary on the hadeeth: “Allaah has cursed the women who make tattoos and the women who have this done, the women who pluck facial hair and the women who have this done, and women who widen the gap between their own or others’ teeth for the sake of beauty, changing what Allaah has created.” (Saheeh Muslim, 3966).

Imaam al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The woman who tattoos is one who uses a needle or similar implement to prick the skin of the hand, wrist, lips or other part of a woman’s body until she draws blood, then she puts dye into the wound. It is haraam to do this or have it done by choice. Similarly, plucking or removing hair from the face is also haraam, whether one does it or asks someone else to do it for one, unless a woman has a beard or moustache, in which case it is not haraam to remove it. Widening the gap between the teeth is done by filing between the incisors. This is done by old women to give the appearance of youth and make the teeth look beautiful, because this attractive gap between the teeth is characteristic of young girls. When a woman gets old, her teeth get big and look ugly, so she may file them to make them look more attractive and give the impression that she is younger… It is haraam to do this or have it done by another, because of this hadeeth, and because it involves changing what Allaah has created, and is a form of deception and falsehood. Widening the gap between the teeth is something that is done to make a person look beautiful, which indicates that what is haraam is when this is done in the pursuit of beauty, but if it were done as a form of treatment because of some problem or deformity in the teeth, then there is nothing wrong with it. And Allaah knows best.” (al-Nawawi, commentary on Saheeh Muslim, 13/107).

We should point out here that cosmetic surgeons do not distinguish between cases of serious need and other cases. Their concern is to earn money and satisfy their customers. Materialists and proponents of “freedom” think that man is free and can do whatever he wants with his body, but this is wrong; the body belongs to Allaah and He can command whatever He wills concerning it. Allaah has told us about the ways in which Iblees (Shaytaan) promised to lead people astray, one of which is (interpretation of the meaning): “‘…and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allaah.’…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:119]

There are cosmetic surgical procedures which are haraam and are not considered to be excusable; these are seen as tampering with the creation of Allaah for the sake of beauty. Examples include: breast enlargement or reduction, and procedures aimed at reversing the signs of ageing, such as face-lifts etc. The Islamic view is that these are not permitted, because there is no urgent need or necessity for them; rather, the aim is to change and tamper with the creation of Allaah for reasons of human vanity. This is haraam and the one who does it is cursed because it involves two things mentioned in the hadeeth: pursuit of beauty and changing what Allaah has created.

Added to this is the fact that these operations are aimed at deceit, and may involves the injection of materials extracted from aborted foetuses. These are very serious crimes. Moreover, many of these operations result in ongoing pain and other side effects, as the specialists themselves say. (See Ahkaam al-Jaraahah (Rulings on surgery) by Dr. Muhammad Muhammad al-Mukhtaar al-Shanqeeti).

On the basis of the above, we say to you: if the disfigurement that you are dealing with is incidental and is causing you severe embarrassment as well as putting your husband off, for example, and you are not doing this operation for the purpose of making yourself more beautiful, but only to remove or reduce an accidental disfigurement, then there is nothing wrong with doing it, in sha Allaah. And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com)
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Rabi'ya
09-14-2005, 08:21 AM
Originally Posted by bro_faz
there you go, answer's is yes, it is disfigurement of your body!
:sl:

if this is the case surely pericings would class as a permanent disfigurement too? ur permanently leaving a hole in some or other part of ur body which will never heal after a certain length of time.

*shrug* just a though...

:w:

Rabi'ya:rose:
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Far7an
09-14-2005, 08:24 AM
Assalamu alaikum

The following may answer your question...

Question :

Is it permissible for a Muslim teenager who wears hijab to pierce her nose or eyebrow?
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
It is better not to do this, because it serves no purpose and causes pain and mutilation to the nose, and more son in the case of the eyebrow, by making holes in them. With regard to piercing the earlobes in order to wear earrings, this was the custom of women at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), so it is better to limit ourselves to that.
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Rabi'ya
09-14-2005, 11:16 AM
seems a bit odd.....what does the Quraan say about body mutilation.....does anyone have any references??

:w:

Rabi;ya:rose:
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minaz
09-14-2005, 06:47 PM
yeah, maybe something that implies "self inflictive", I’ve seen verses which back the anti cigarettes stance in the past.
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Rabi'ya
09-14-2005, 08:39 PM
LMAO u guys r funny...loved the cockney style chatting lol

but back to topic...does anyone have any references that say tattoos are haram? coz if it is body mutilation then surely ear piercing shud be haraam??

:w:

Rabi'ya:rose:
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Zuko
09-14-2005, 08:47 PM
aw man... they're haraam? I was gonna get one, (even though my mom would flip) but I guess not... There was this dude that said he asked 5 sheikhs, and 3 out of 5 said it was okay... so if he didn't know about this hadith, then does he get sins? Just curious....


EDIT:

Funny thing, I was thinking of starting a thread about tattos.....:sister:
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TEH
09-14-2005, 08:53 PM
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=2906&CATE=406

:)
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Zuko
09-14-2005, 09:08 PM
thanks for the link....
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minaz
09-14-2005, 09:22 PM
hmmmmmmm good link, but I know here in England you can get tatoo's which just colour the poures in the skin - therefore no blood involved
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ABWAN
09-14-2005, 09:52 PM
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

but back to topic...does anyone have any references that say tattoos are haram? coz if it is body mutilation then surely ear piercing shud be haraam??
Question of Fatwa: Dear Sheikh, As-Salaam `Alaykum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh. My 20-year-old son wants to know what is the Islamic ruling on body piercing, like ears, eyebrows, lips, etc., for both males and females?

As to the piercing of the nose, it isn't allowed for both sexes because it is a type of deformation to Allah’s creation.

Focusing more on the question in point, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

“According to the teachings of Islam, our body - including all of our physical faculties - is a trust from Allah and we are required to protect and preserve it according to the best of our ability. Consequently, we are not allowed to alter or tamper with our physical faculties unnecessarily; we are only permitted to interfere with them in order to correct a natural deformity or repair or remedy an ailment. Any other form of interference or tampering with our body is akin to altering Allah’s creation which has been condemned in the Qur’an.

We read in the Qur’an that Satan, the accursed one, has pledged to Allah that he will be tirelessly working to lead humans unto ways of perdition and self-destruction: “… ‘And I will surely lead them astray, and arouse desires in them, and command them and they will cut the cattle’s ears, and I will surely command them and they will change Allah’s creation.’ Whoever chooses the Devil for a friend instead of Allah is assuredly a loser, and his loss is manifest.” (An-Nisa’: 119)

While reflecting on the above verse, we must also read the following statements of Allah in the Qur’an: “There is no altering Allah’s creation.” (Ar-Rum: 30); “And do not cast yourselves into destruction by your own hands.” (Al-Baqarah: 195).

In light of the above, body piercing, tattooing, branding, etc. all fall in the category of unnecessary interference, alteration and mutilation of Allah’s creation. Therefore, no Muslim, who is conscious of his religion, should ever contemplate such activities.

Neither are such procedures harmless, physical refinements as they are often imagined to be. Rather the truth is that these procedures have often been associated with numerous health hazards. For sensitive parts of the body such as tongues, lips, eyelids, etc. are more prone to be easily infected, and thus become infected with diseases, some of which may even be fatal. There is nothing at all surprising about all of these, for every unnecessary tampering with Allah’s creation is bound to produce adverse repercussions.

In Islam, all such acts that entail possible health hazards are considered totally forbidden even if they contain some imagined or presumed benefits; such presumed benefits are considered as being outweighed by the hazards. This fact alone warrants declaring body piercing as forbidden.

The only exception some scholars and jurists have made in this context is the case of ear piercing specifically for females. This is so because of the specific need of women to wear jewelry. Men, however, according to Islam, have no such need. In fact, Islam forbids men from copying styles that are distinctively feminine. The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah has cursed men who copy women as well as women who copy men.” It should be remembered here both men and women have different roles in Islam.

It is also worth mentioning in this respect that ear piercing is somewhat different; for there are fewer hazards in ear piercing as compared to piercing of tongues, lips and eye-lids, etc.

Still another consideration strengthening the case for declaring body piercing as forbidden for males: Islam forbids us from copying other people in their specific customs and life-style without any tangible benefits. Such copying has been condemned by the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him.

In conclusion: Body piercing for males is not at all permissible in Islam. Ear piercing has been permitted for females, according to some scholars. Such an exception, however, does not apply to males.”





http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503545496
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Zuko
09-14-2005, 10:25 PM
Jazakallah khair for that article!

I will never think about getting a tattoo or getting my tongue pierced anymore...
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sherbie cola
09-15-2005, 10:48 AM
mehndi does not wash off instantly it takes several weeks and each time u shampoo yr hair the colour comes out!
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Muezzin
09-15-2005, 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by sherbie cola
mehndi does not wash off instantly it takes several weeks
I know. But it does wash off. Eventually. :p

and each time u shampoo yr hair the colour comes out!
The colour of the mendhi or your natural hair colour?

If it's the latter.... Crikey! :confused:
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Zuko
09-15-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by sherbie cola
mehndi does not wash off instantly it takes several weeks
Not true, for your hands I mean, not hair.... If you just put mehndi on or lets just say you have some on your hands, all you gotta do is start scratching your skin with your nails and it starts coming off, not totally, but it does get considerably lighter.... (I don't mean scratching vigorously though)... I tried it when I heard you had to cover your hands if you had menhdi on and it worked...
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baby_muslimah15
09-17-2005, 05:24 AM
~~~I know tatto's are haraam but I dont know about plastic surgery... I dont think it is~~~
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ChasingRainbows
09-17-2005, 06:32 AM
Salam Alaikum,

Tattos, body piercings, colored contacts in year 2005, these are accessories for people who are trying 2 hard to fit in with god knows what. Are there any fatwas for people who are trying too hard?
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Far7an
09-18-2005, 09:13 AM
Assalamu alaikum

Originally Posted by baby_muslimah15
~~~I know tatto's are haraam but I dont know about plastic surgery... I dont think it is~~~
Think again
p.s. I don't know of any Fatwa's against such things but this is my best guess
Wearing coloured contact lenses
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Zuko
09-18-2005, 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by Far7an
Thanks for the link man.....
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baby_muslimah15
09-30-2005, 01:43 AM
As-salaamu Alaikum,

I was wondering is it ok to get body piercing????? Because my friend asked me if she can and I told her yes....Any answers to my question would be helpful!!!!! :p

P.S If I spelled piercing wrong(ma bad)
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ishkabab
09-30-2005, 02:04 AM
when u have piercings anywhere u have to make sure water goes through those areas cause if u dont ur wuzu is not excepted...thas y u gotta be careful..
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BlissfullyJaded
09-30-2005, 02:15 AM
:sl:

I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect the wudhu sis ishkabab. It affects ghusl. :) Thats what an alim told us some time back... Allahu a'lam.

Brother Ahmed is correct on this.. Besides the ears for women, all else is not allowed.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, thanks a lot for asking this question, which shows how far you are interested in raising your children upon the teachings of Islam. May Allah help you lead a righteous marital life!

First of all, it should be made clear that it is permissible for women only to pierce their ears as a form of enhancing their beauty. The proof of this permission is based on the Hadith of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, when he prayed on the day of `Eid and came with Bilal, his Companion, he ordered the women to pay Zakah, and some of them took their earrings off and threw it (donated it) to the Prophet. (Reported in Bukhari)

As to the piercing of the nose, it isn't allowed for both sexes because it is a type of deformation to Allah’s creation.

Focusing more on the question in point, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
“According to the teachings of Islam, our body - including all of our physical faculties - is a trust from Allah and we are required to protect and preserve it according to the best of our ability. Consequently, we are not allowed to alter or tamper with our physical faculties unnecessarily; we are only permitted to interfere with them in order to correct a natural deformity or repair or remedy an ailment. Any other form of interference or tampering with our body is akin to altering Allah’s creation which has been condemned in the Qur’an.

We read in the Qur’an that Satan, the accursed one, has pledged to Allah that he will be tirelessly working to lead humans unto ways of perdition and self-destruction: “… ‘And I will surely lead them astray, and arouse desires in them, and command them and they will cut the cattle’s ears, and I will surely command them and they will change Allah’s creation.’ Whoever chooses the Devil for a friend instead of Allah is assuredly a loser, and his loss is manifest.” (An-Nisa’: 119)

While reflecting on the above verse, we must also read the following statements of Allah in the Qur’an: “There is no altering Allah’s creation.” (Ar-Rum: 30); “And do not cast yourselves into destruction by your own hands.” (Al-Baqarah: 195).

In light of the above, body piercing, tattooing, branding, etc. all fall in the category of unnecessary interference, alteration and mutilation of Allah’s creation. Therefore, no Muslim, who is conscious of his religion, should ever contemplate such activities.

Neither are such procedures harmless, physical refinements as they are often imagined to be. Rather the truth is that these procedures have often been associated with numerous health hazards. For sensitive parts of the body such as tongues, lips, eyelids, etc. are more prone to be easily infected, and thus become infected with diseases, some of which may even be fatal. There is nothing at all surprising about all of these, for every unnecessary tampering with Allah’s creation is bound to produce adverse repercussions.

In Islam, all such acts that entail possible health hazards are considered totally forbidden even if they contain some imagined or presumed benefits; such presumed benefits are considered as being outweighed by the hazards. This fact alone warrants declaring body piercing as forbidden.

The only exception some scholars and jurists have made in this context is the case of ear piercing specifically for females. This is so because of the specific need of women to wear jewelry. Men, however, according to Islam, have no such need. In fact, Islam forbids men from copying styles that are distinctively feminine. The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah has cursed men who copy women as well as women who copy men.” It should be remembered here both men and women have different roles in Islam.

It is also worth mentioning in this respect that ear piercing is somewhat different; for there are fewer hazards in ear piercing as compared to piercing of tongues, lips and eye-lids, etc.

Still another consideration strengthening the case for declaring body piercing as forbidden for males: Islam forbids us from copying other people in their specific customs and life-style without any tangible benefits. Such copying has been condemned by the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him.

In conclusion: Body piercing for males is not at all permissible in Islam. Ear piercing has been permitted for females, according to some scholars. Such an exception, however, does not apply to males.”

Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: http://www.islam.ca

Allah Almighty knows best.
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Umm Safiya
09-30-2005, 07:22 AM
Assalâmu 'alaykum..

What if you are a revert and got your bellybutton pierced before you became a muslim.. Do you have to take it out, or is it okay to keep it if your husband doesn't mind? And it doesn't effect ones ghusl..

Barak Allâhu fikum..

Ma'salâma..
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madeenahsh
09-30-2005, 08:02 AM
Asalaam alykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

1st ill say I dont have ilm to give any verdict or judgment May Allah forgive me for my errors in this very reply... about its halal or haram or similar issues I recall recently Someone on a class which I attend in daily basis , this question was arised And the Sheikh said IF You do it to please our husband its alright and ofcoz he has to agree to this also the niyah counts never to do it to copy the kufar , I know very close ppl who had this.
The 1st days its senstive and also it depends on ur skin it might get rejected or excepted depends on how your system works some have dramas which courses pains ,such issues 4 some it just a merely itch wen geting it done , yani wen it gets pinned in ur belly watever so to make the long story short this sheikh was and is reliable and his answer was as I noted above its no harm provided your not showing it to anyone except your hub , Allahu musta3an and the niyah also counts I ask Allah to forgive me for my short coming and errrors everything What I mentiond might be wrong so dont take my advice . I reply due to I HEARD this from A reliable source that its allowed as long as its within the "ettiquet"

Allaah knows best

Barakatullahi feekum
Wasallamalykum
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
09-30-2005, 01:24 PM
:sl:

Imitating the Kuffar is a sin, Inshallah read this and youll understand:

http://alminbar.com/khutbaheng/184.htm

:w:
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ummbilal
09-30-2005, 01:56 PM
Piercing of the navel and other body parts is the fashion of the Kuffaar. It is a trait of the most vile amongst them.

In the Qur'aan and Sunnah, we are prohibited from emulating the Kuffaar. Hence, it is not permissible to pierce the navel.

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I suppose this would cover most other piecing except ears as this was the custom of the suhabas wives.
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Samee
09-30-2005, 08:53 PM
Why would you tell someone piercing is ok if you don't even know the answer yourself?

Piercing is the imitation of the Kuffar. Why would you do something like that to your body? The work of pigs are the ones who cut their tongues, their belly buttons and their noses. Allah gave you a perfect body. Why harm it? Why put stupid rings all over it?

Piercings are like tatoos in a way.
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ummbilal
10-01-2005, 01:51 AM
samiullah a little harsh dont you think?
baby muslimah was asking because she wasnt sure, if you are so harsh with someone asking a simple question how will they ever ask again?

remember we are not born knowing brother, the knowlage comes from Allah. Allhumdulilah you knew the answer and now she does too.

be a little kinder inshaallah some of the forums members are quite young mashallah.
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ummbilal
10-01-2005, 06:50 PM
on another not (but still about piecing)
i noticed that a lot of asian sister s in uk have their nose pieced, i asked a sister about it once and she said its sunnsh
that was a few years ago and i've never come accross it in hadith anywhere, could anyone clear it up.

brother samiullah i know its a big mistake to say something you know nothing about but when the person is a minor(baby muslimah i remember reading your e 15, is that right) we have to be more careful when correcting them.
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TEH
10-01-2005, 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Samiullah
No, males cannot pierce their ears! Again, anything that imitates women for men and men for women is 100% Haraam.

The reason why I got harsh was because this is a VERY HUGE THING. There are alot of circumstances and consequences. You can't tell someone "Oh this is halaal" when you don't know if its halaal yourself.

Earings- the work of women

Men who wear earings- Kuffar

Earings don't make you look cool, you know.
And mate, if people cant say something halaal without having the knowledge, I dont think you can say that something is haraam either, without proof, hence you must be a scholar... :D

If not, perhaps we should give evidences for it, or even quote on a scholar on it. And hey, some girls think earings do look cool, cool is an opinon...

:D
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Far7an
10-01-2005, 09:53 PM
Assaalmu alaikum

Threads merged.

Its actually in the hadith that the man who imitates the woman will be cursed by Allah.
Allaah curses those men who imitate the women, and He curses those women who imitate the men. [al-Bukhaaree]

It seems this thread is going in circles, the same questions are being repeated, the answer has been given many times. To avoid this thread going seriously off topic, I think it is time to close it InshaAllah. If you feel your question has not been answered, or you have other questions related to this subject and you wish to post them, feel free to pm me InshaAllah.

Barakallahu feekum

wasalamu alaikum
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Far7an
11-21-2005, 11:45 AM
Assalamu alaikum

Thread opened and poll added, as requested.
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Ameeratul Layl
11-21-2005, 11:53 AM
:sl: Dear brothera nd Sisters

Firstly, I would like to thank brother far7an for kindly producing a poll for my little bit of research I have to do.:coolious:

Dear brothers and sisters,

I would very much appreciate it if, you could provide qutations so as to prove that plastic surgery is/is not allwed in Islam. JUST to REMIND that the purpose of the re opening of this thread and the poll is for research reasons ONLY!
JazakAllah khaiyr.

The purose of this:
I will not go into too much detail.
Its mainly to do withyour TRUE thoughts and FEELINGS about plastc surgery.

The results will be considered and I will make an analysis on ppls reactions (considering your 'thoughts and feelings').

I hope you will be TRUTHFUL. InshAllah.

I would also like to pit forward, that I would like everyone to be MODEST within their opinions and rember...that this is a ISLAMIC forum.

Allah ma3akum
p.s: JazakAllah to all, esp. br farhan for re opening the thread.
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MetSudaisTwice
11-21-2005, 12:17 PM
salam
i chose the option no becasue i believe the natural beauty of a human is far better than artificial
wasalam
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Ameeratul Layl
11-21-2005, 12:20 PM
:sl:
JazakAllah brother.

Allah ma3ak
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~Raindrop~
11-21-2005, 12:22 PM
salaam bro. i agree with you entirely. didnt shaitaan make a vow to Allah that he would cause humans to disfigure the beauty which Allah has given us?wassalam
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MetSudaisTwice
11-21-2005, 12:26 PM
salam
i believe that enhancing yourself with other methods or disfiguring yourself is wrong becasue it sends out the wrong statement that you are not happy with what allah has blessed you with
wasalam
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Umm Safiya
11-21-2005, 12:29 PM
:sl:

Yeah you are so right akhee metsudais, absolutely..

i was wondering.. what if you had gotten a piercing when you were a kafir, does one have to take it out when that person becomes muslim?

:w:
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S_87
11-21-2005, 12:37 PM
:sl:

i think this is split in two sections

plastic surgery for vanity reasons- which i am against ..this ayah shows why

and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allaah (4:119)

this is one of what the devil said, so this does apply to plastic surgery

and plastic surgery for strong medical reasons which i am not so against :-\
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~Raindrop~
11-21-2005, 12:47 PM
salaam. medical reasons?wassalam
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Ameeratul Layl
11-21-2005, 12:48 PM
Originally Posted by aisha
salaam. medical reasons?wassalam

:sl:
In the case of a bad accident which has lead to deformation of the face. I hope that long word made sence.

Allah ma3ik
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Hajar
11-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by amani
:sl:i think this is split in two sections
plastic surgery for vanity reasons- which i am against ..this ayah shows why
and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allaah (4:119)this is one of what the devil said, so this does apply to plastic surgery
and plastic surgery for strong medical reasons which i am not so against :-\
:sl: sis

yeah i totaly agree with u there.

Like the us of plastic surgery for vaity reasons..is wrong. But on the other hand for serious medical reasons is OK.....

:w:
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minaz
11-21-2005, 11:13 PM
nice to see the ressurection of my thread, good to see a debate on plastic surgery
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Ameeratul Layl
11-22-2005, 09:58 AM
:sl:

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

The second half to the poll will be up on: 28/11/05 InshAllah.

Allah ma3akum
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anis_z24
11-23-2005, 01:27 AM
Salam
-Of cource tatoos are haram. I know for sure about the ever lasting ones but the ones like stikers I am not sure...
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Halima
11-23-2005, 01:50 AM
:sl: Did any of you people notice something wrong with this beautifcation ordeal? The similarities between the tatoos, body piercing, and plastic surgery? They are all established by the kuffar, hence these ways have been promoted by the kuffar to enhance one's beauty. This type of beautification is strictly prohibited in Islam. In addition to that, we as muslims are looked down upon if we ever do what the kuffar is doing. In Islam, we can only go to such an extent to beautify ourselves but not to this degree. Spening thousands of dollars just to fit in society. It is sad however true. Appreciate with what Allah(swt) has created you with. Do not take it to such an extent to try and change with what he has given you. Hide it. Be modest about it. Nonethless we should never try to enhance ourselves to a great deal when Islam has conversative rules anyways. In this matter I am especially talking about the Sisters.:w:
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*charisma*
11-23-2005, 01:56 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

for tatoos, it has already been mentioned that they are haraam.
even so, some ppl that want tatoos you gotta think ahead.
that thing is PERMANENT, over time your body will naturally disfigure, you'll have rolls in places u didnt think ull ever have them, stretch marks, ull gain and lose weight...all that stuff..now after all of this, how do you think that tatoo will look? ahem ahem my point exactly

as for piercings..i think piercings on guys makes them look ewww...everytime is see a guy with an earing i just wonder.. are they that jealous of girls? i swear sometimes guys worry more about how they look like than girls do, standing in the mirror gelling their hair making sure its spiked up the way they want it to be, carrying cologne around with em..wierd
and for girls, i wanted to get my nose pierced..but i continuously thought about it, its not significant to get it pierced so im not going to besides that i dont want a hole in my nose for the rest of my life cuz when im old and if piercings are out of fashion by then...grammas gonna look goofy

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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*charisma*
11-23-2005, 01:58 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

Originally Posted by Halima
:sl: Did any of you people notice something wrong with this beautifcation ordeal? The similarities between the tatoos, body piercing, and plastic surgery? They are all established by the kuffar, hence these ways have been promoted by the kuffar to enhance one's beauty. This type of beautification is strictly prohibited in Islam. In addition to that, we as muslims are looked down upon if we ever do what the kuffar is doing. In Islam, we can only go to such an extent to beautify ourselves but not to this degree. Spening thousands of dollars just to fit in society. It is sad however true. Appreciate with what Allah(swt) has created you with. Do not take it to such an extent to try and change with what he has given you. Hide it. Be modest about it. Nonethless we should never try to enhance ourselves to a great deal when Islam has conversative rules anyways. In this matter I am especially talking about the Sisters.:w:
Mashallah sis, great point...

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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anis_z24
11-23-2005, 01:58 AM
Salam

Men percing their ears is men wanting to become women.
Which makes them become less men.. And changes do happen...
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Halima
11-24-2005, 04:20 PM
:sl: I think we all get the conclusion that this is all haram. :w:


:threadclo
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Rabbiyah
12-28-2005, 11:03 PM
:sl: :sister: :brother:
I think tattos are bad how bout you?
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Ghazi
12-28-2005, 11:07 PM
Salaam

Totally Haraam
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akulion
12-28-2005, 11:08 PM
Tattos are haram if they are parmenent (i.e. carved in the flesh)

however Tattos made with henna as hand decorations for women are allowed
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- Qatada -
12-28-2005, 11:10 PM
:wasalamex

Question.

As-Salamu `alaykum. I just want to know if it is haram (prohibited) to tattoo our bodies.



Answer.

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.


We commend your eagerness to become well acquainted with Islam and its teachings, which is the way Allah has chosen for the welfare of His servants.

As for your question, you have to keep in mind the fact that body piercing, tattooing, branding, etc. all fall in the category of unnecessary interference, alteration and mutilation of Allah’s creation. Therefore, no Muslim, who is conscious of his religion, should ever contemplate such activities.

In his well-known book, The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam, the prominent Muslim scholar, Sheik Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:

“Islam denounces excesses in beautifying oneself when it alters the physical features that Allah created him with. The Glorious Qur'an considers such alterations as inspired by Satan, who "...will command them (his devotees) to change what Allah has created...” (An-Nisa': 119)

Tattooing is one of those excesses. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have cursed the tattooer and the tattooed. (Reported by Muslim)

Tattooing permanently disfigures the face and other parts of the body with colored pigment and repulsive designs. Some Arabs, especially women, are in the habit of tattooing large areas of their bodies. People of certain religious sects tattoo pictures of their deities or religious rituals on their hands and chests. The pain and agony that the person experiences from the needles piercing skin add to these images. Because of all of this, both the tattooer and the one who is tattooed have been cursed.”

You can also read:

Is Body Piercing Permissible in Islam?
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544192


Allah Almighty knows best.



:wasalamex
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Halima
12-28-2005, 11:12 PM
:sl:

On the brighter side, henna can be permitted in place of tatoos. If you wish so.


:w:
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Far7an
12-29-2005, 11:26 PM
:sl:

Threads merged.
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so0x0xsweet
02-17-2006, 01:23 AM
i dont think tatoos are bad, or body piercings, actually i am addicted to piercings and i like tatoos and i might get one when im older, but i dont kno, but plastic sugery, i wood never, i mean it would be nice to get lypo or something but come on now i aint retarded i can work out instead.. eww.. gross
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shorouk
02-17-2006, 02:26 AM
totally disgusting alhtough i dotn mind the piercing just depends where...
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north_malaysian
02-17-2006, 03:21 AM
How about sex change operation? I've read in Al Islam magazine it's ok to do so in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

If changing sex is permitted, of course the person will enhance the feminine side of his 'chest' and face, to make it more beautiful, isn't it? Nice nose job, nice lips and sexy body then, huh?:rollseyes
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abdul Majid
02-17-2006, 03:42 AM
they are all haram
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north_malaysian
02-17-2006, 06:59 AM
Originally Posted by abdul Majid
they are all haram
But why Iran and Saudi allowed it?
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Shadow_of_White
02-17-2006, 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by minaz
It came to my mind the other day, that are tattoos haraam? Women usually have henna drawn onto them which last up to a lengthy period of time. If tatoos are haraam would it be down to them being a permenant fixture or are their rules (i.e. henna), that just apply it to women i.e. like gold?
p.s. i'm not planning to have a tattoo! :p
yes my sister they are.anything that harms your skin is haram as Allah ordered it.
:sister: wassalam
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Shadow_of_White
02-17-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by abdul Majid
they are all haram
if its just a sticker its ok.., and nothing bad is on the design (ok)..(but if its a picture, its haram), and anything that is unpure and offensive.:muslimah: :muslimah:
but i wouldnt never never ever wear the real one!!!:hiding:
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
02-17-2006, 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by north_malaysian
But why Iran and Saudi allowed it?
:sl:

I doubt that very much. They would be the last countries to allow such a filthy action to occur. Can you provide some proof for it Inshallah? it seems so unlikely.

:w:
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Ibrar
02-17-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by abdul Majid
they are all haram
:sl:
I agree with the brother!!
and it is a major sign of Judgment Day that the Prophet (saw) said.
that man will try and do woman's stuff (wear woman's cloth's piercing etc etc)
and woman will copy man's style ( short hair wear man's cloth's etc etc) read the sahih Bukhari about Judgment Day signs!!

and if I am wrong then Correct me!! Please!!
:w:
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naasiaah
02-17-2006, 04:16 PM
I WANT A TONGUE RING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HARAM.I DON'T WANT IT FOR SEXUAL REASONS AND NOONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT BECAUSE I WEAR A VEIL.SO WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I GOT MY TOUNGUE PIERCED.I ALREADY HAVE MY NOSE AND EARS PIERCED.:sister:
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Ibrar
02-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by naasiaah
I WANT A TONGUE RING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HARAM.I DON'T WANT IT FOR SEXUAL REASONS AND NOONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT BECAUSE I WEAR A VEIL.SO WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I GOT MY TOUNGUE PIERCED.I ALREADY HAVE MY NOSE AND EARS PIERCED.:sister:
:sl:
I think if you dont do that It will be better for you sister!!
because it's just useless!! having your tongue pierced!!
but after all i am not an Imam or The one who have knowledge on this Topic.
there are many other here who have knowledge of Qur'an and Hadith and they will Tell you Inshallah!!
:w:
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jb17
09-25-2007, 03:42 AM
well i was in an accident that messed me up a bit, and now that part of me hurts every day and is disfigured. so reconstructive is a must for me, not just to help me breathe (which is essential) but also for other reasons as well as restoring my look pre-injury. some people may not be ok with it but ive researched it and its OK in Islam. this has inflicted a lot of pain (not just physical but also mental and emotional) on me and i think Allah understands that fixing it is the best thing to do.
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