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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 10:54 AM
MUSLIMAH IN PRISON
For Killing A Rapist


..Eighteen Year-old Muslimah In Prison for Killing Rapist

An 18 year-old in America has been charged of murder and is being held
in a jail in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

Hala Gabr, was just 17 and three weeks of turning 18, when her foster
mother took her to Atlantic City, while she went into a casino. Hala
was left by herself to see the sights. After a while, Hala called a
cab to go back and meet up with her foster mother.

The cab driver offered her $20. to have sex with her. When Hala
refused, the cab driver pulled a knife on her and forced to a motel
room where he raped her violently. Medical records proved that she was
sexually violated. At some point during the whole ordeal, she hit the
cab driver with a bottle and knocked him to the ground. As he went
down, she reached for the knife and stabbed him 13 times.

She hid his body in the bed under the mattress, cleaned up the room,
drove off in his car and threw all of his belongings in a nearby
stream. These items have been found, negating the prosecution's claim
that she was stealing his belongings.

Because she was so shocked by the whole incident, she got into a car
accident, and was taken unconscious to a hospital. When she was
revived, she fled to her father's house in Brooklyn (from where she
originally escaped from abuse and thus put into a foster home). The
police found her purse in the car and traced her there, where she was
arrested.

The rapist, authorities said, frequently picked up prostitutes and was
known as a sxual predator in the Atlantic City area.

Hala does not have a criminal record, and although she cannot get the
death penalty because of her age at the time, she is subject to life
without parole for 50 years. She is currently being held on $500,000
dollars bail.

We are urging the readers to make du'a for Hala in every prayer and to
request that sisters write her at the following address:

Hala Gabr
Atlantic City Correctional Center
5060 Atlantic Avenue
Mays Landing, NJ 08330


Jazakallah Khaire.
Al-Jihaad Editorial Team


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarkatuh.
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 11:14 AM
asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakathu

omg!! thats crazy what else could she do...it was self defence wasnt it?

walakumasalaam warahmatulahi wabarakathu
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Malaikah
10-02-2005, 11:15 AM
that is so sad..
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 11:19 AM
asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakathu

even though in islam you not suppose 2 kill because iss like u've killed half of the nation, i understand why she did it....and in ma opinion it serves him right!!!!!....america law is sooo strict...Alhamdulillah she was saved 4rom death raw, coz thats what they do don't they....stupid laws!!

walakumasalaam warhamatulahi wabarakathu
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 11:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~baby girl~
asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakathu

omg!! thats crazy what else could she do...it was self defence wasnt it?

walakumasalaam warahmatulahi wabarakathu

yeh it waz sis.. it makez me so mad how they would hardly do anythin 2 da guy if they caught him and he was alive.. she had 2 do it or else he could get away with it and attack her again. we jus gta pray fo her.. may Allah (swt) protect and help her to have a early leave.. and to grant us all jannah al fardaus ameen.

the qur'an states: "Whoever kills a human being, unless it be for murder or corruption on earth, it is as though he had killed all mankind, and whoever saves a life it is as though he had saved the life of all mankind."(5:31)

and the sis did have the right to protect herself especially after what he had done.. (because it says: 'unless it be for murder or corruption on the earth')



wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Rima
10-02-2005, 11:20 AM
don`t they call it Terrorism ??she should be rewarded for killing a terrorist :omg:
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 11:23 AM
asalamualykum warahamatulahi wabarakathu

ameen midgit, insha Allah i'll pray 4 her...shes so young 2 which is quite upsetting...iss juss fiqh init....people don't care no more abt the innocent people...america law is messed up anywhere...can't she or even her family protest there?

walakumasalaam warhamatulahi wabarakathu
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 11:27 AM
they wont allow it.. cz the governmentz really messed up and they proli will say 'a murderz a murder' buh you never know. we should pray to Allah (swt) and it can work out for the sis insha Allah.


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Rima
10-02-2005, 11:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~baby girl~
...can't she or even her family protest there?
hey, her name is HALA not Rebeca or Elizabeth :sister:
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 11:29 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by akhee
they wont allow it.. cz the governmentz really messed up and they proli will say 'a murderz a murder' buh you never know. we should pray to Allah (swt) and it can work out for the sis insha Allah.


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakathu

insha Allah i hope she gets out

walakuamsalaam warahmatulahi wabarakathu
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Arwa
10-02-2005, 11:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Rima
don`t they call it Terrorism ??she should be rewarded for killing a terrorist :omg:
nah, you got it the other way round.

Terrorist kills American :rolleyes:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Self defense? Does that even exist in amrikka? :mad:

Poor her man. :'(

Ameen to all the duas.
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 11:46 AM



THAT IS COMPLETE B-S! Oh so now self-defense is against the law? What benefit could a rapist give to the world by being alive? Jeez, if it was Pres. Bush's daughters, heck he'd run out with a rifle! What is this world coming to?




May Allaah reward her for her pain and misery and grant her Jannatul-Firdaus... Ameen
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 11:52 AM
Asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakathu

exactly!!! obviously it would be different 4 that monkey face if it was on of his free-mason daughters....the law suddenly changes in that situation sis

walakumasalaam warhamtulahi wabarakthu
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niqaabii
10-02-2005, 11:54 AM
aw
its so sad
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Rima
10-02-2005, 11:58 AM
believe me it is so hard to defend a rape case in any court, specially here in US , they will easy find a good lawyer who would make it sound that she did like it she actually wanted it,and she killed him for his money ,,,they call it freedom of speach

and the problem is her name , I mean it is not Rebece :omg:
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hashim
:sl:
...

I hope some of the sisters here can make time to write to this muslimaah, this must be very hard for her.

:w:
Write to her? Isn't she in jail? And if she isn't, then what good would letters do? We need to protest!
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 12:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aalimah
Write to her? Isn't she in jail? And if she isn't, then what good would letters do? We need to protest!
yeh i know wa u mean sis.. but when people are in jail - they feel as if no1 cares about them no more and they feel as if no1 is there for them. this is the reason you should write to them to show them that someone cares and that other muslim brothers and sisters are supporting them. even write up ayahs translations from the qur'an to support them and make them feel more secure so they get closer to Allah (swt).


We are urging the readers to make du'a for Hala in every prayer and to
request that sisters write her at the following address:

Hala Gabr
Atlantic City Correctional Center
5060 Atlantic Avenue
Mays Landing, NJ 08330



and if we cant write to her - then we should pray for her at the least.

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 12:15 PM
I will write to her now insha'allah.... I just hope she gets the letter....
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 12:16 PM
jazak Allah khayr sis.. seriosly all of us muslims need to wake up. we think we can do somethin 'tomorrow' but 2moro will never come till u take action today.


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarkatuh.
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Protected_Diamond
10-02-2005, 12:22 PM
Asalamualykum warahmatulahi wabarakthu

ma letters always gets 2 the wrong person...but i will insha Allah write her a letter saying stuff like dont worry you've got yo brothers n sisters behind ya...stay strong..etc...i hope she gets the letter insha Allah

walakumasalaam warahmatulahi wabarakthu
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 12:27 PM
I think our letters should be nice and long because this sister will be spending a lot of time up in jail, and in case she needs upliftment, she can refer to our letters (insha'allah)... Maybe we can try makin her laugh or something.... I'm not good with comin up with good ideas....
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 12:31 PM
:sl: warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

jazak Allah khayr ery1.. u know instead of just normal letters it would be alot more powerful if you writ down ayahs from the qur'an too with the english translation. this way it would build up on her imaan aswell as her feelin less lonely. maybe it would be alot more easier for sisters from america to do it cz it mite be cheaper?

if anyone needs any ayahs regarding situations like these - we can all search around and insha Allah type them up on here and you can write them in your letters.. it would also be preferable to do it in handwriting because its more personal that way which makes the person feel more closer than just typing printouts. you could even send her envelopes and postage stamps so she could reply back? barak Allah u feekum and if anyone has any more ideas please post them up. jazak Allah khayr.

PS. sister aalimah that is a good idea - putting funny comments and nothin offensive will make the sister feel better too insha Allah. just make sure its nothin which mite offend the kafir cz they probably will read it before she can..

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Rima
10-02-2005, 12:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aalimah
I think our letters should be nice and long because this sister will be spending a lot of time up in jail, and in case she needs upliftment, she can refer to our letters (insha'allah)... Maybe we can try makin her laugh or something.... I'm not good with comin up with good ideas....
yeah , people in jail are so excited when they get some letters ..I have to agree you presuade me
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 12:34 PM
Ok I got two ayahs so far in my letter:

one that's in my sig:

"Allah has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for the cause of Allah, they will slay, and be slain."(9:111)


And this:

and never give up hope of Allah's Soothing Mercy: truly no one despairs of Allah's Soothing Mercy, except those who have no faith."
(12:87)
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 12:39 PM
masha Allah good quotes! but do you think they'll be suitable or do you think they'll allow it if they read through the letters first before passing them on?

maybe if we just writ:

"Allah has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden..."

i know its dumb of uz to bak off.. but she might not be able to get the letter or they might destroy it if they read the remainder of that. the 2nd ones good 2 jazak Allah khayr.

Allah (swt) knows best.
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 12:40 PM
lol I was thinkin that... ok I'll change it but only because I want her to be able to get the letter....
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 12:52 PM
041.049 Man does not weary of asking for good (things), but if ill touches him, he gives up all hope (and) is lost in despair.


018.046 Wealth and sons are allurements of the life of this world: But the things that endure, good deeds, are best in the sight of thy Lord, as rewards, and best as (the foundation for) hopes.







Got this from: http://www.islam-usa.com/e80.htm



The remedy for dejection is hope. God made hopelessness unlawful by saying, "Do not despair of God's mercy." Thus, no matter at what level of despair, depression and frustration we are, whether loss of a loved one or a job, or as the result of anger from someone else, we must not give up hope as there is a ray of hope at the end of the tunnel. The greatest hope is mercy from God.

Thus, whoever has lost worldly possessions, expects and hopes that God will replace his losses in a better way. The.he person who has lost a dear one hopes to see that dear one in the life hereafter.

Hope is the medicine which keeps one alive and going, which is when we say, hang on, we mean hang onto the thread of hope. It is not unnatural to be sad over situations and events. Even Prophet Mohammed (Pbuh) used to be sad, looking at the plight of Unbelievers and their rejection of his message for oneness of God, and not becoming Muslims. And God reminded him by saying, "It is not your duty to make them Muslims, but just proclaim the truth, and God gives guidance to those whom He wishes."


During dejection, there is darkness, but in hope, there is light. Therefore, one must pray for this light to illuminate the heart so that we can see beyond what is causing the suffering today. If I knew that I would not see tomorrow, I might get depressed, but the fact that I hope I will see tomorrow with all its goodness, the love of my family, my friends, dear ones, the flowers, that I go to sleep in peace, turning myself to God. We must pray for God's mercy and forgiveness so that we can love and forgive ourselves and God's other creations and have peace with ourselves, our Creator and our surroundings.


We Muslims believe that all our suffering, failures and adversities are nothing but a test from God, who has said that "You will not enter Paradise until you are tested. " He has also said, "Be sure we will test you with something of fear and hunger, a small loss in wealth and lives and the fruits (of your labors), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere, when afflicted with calamities, to God we belong and to Him shall we return."' (Chapter 2:15, 5-157).



With a little paraphrasing, I think some of the sisters who are writing can use the information in that....








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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 01:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aalimah
041.049 Man does not weary of asking for good (things), but if ill touches him, he gives up all hope (and) is lost in despair.

018.046 Wealth and sons are allurements of the life of this world: But the things that endure, good deeds, are best in the sight of thy Lord, as rewards, and best as (the foundation for) hopes.



Got this from: http://www.islam-usa.com/e80.htm




The remedy for dejection is hope. God made hopelessness unlawful by saying, "Do not despair of God's mercy." Thus, no matter at what level of despair, depression and frustration we are, whether loss of a loved one or a job, or as the result of anger from someone else, we must not give up hope as there is a ray of hope at the end of the tunnel. The greatest hope is mercy from God.


Thus, whoever has lost worldly possessions, expects and hopes that God will replace his losses in a better way. The.he person who has lost a dear one hopes to see that dear one in the life hereafter.

Hope is the medicine which keeps one alive and going, which is when we say, hang on, we mean hang onto the thread of hope. It is not unnatural to be sad over situations and events. Even Prophet Mohammed (Pbuh) used to be sad, looking at the plight of Unbelievers and their rejection of his message for oneness of God, and not becoming Muslims. And God reminded him by saying, "It is not your duty to make them Muslims, but just proclaim the truth, and God gives guidance to those whom He wishes."

During dejection, there is darkness, but in hope, there is light. Therefore, one must pray for this light to illuminate the heart so that we can see beyond what is causing the suffering today. If I knew that I would not see tomorrow, I might get depressed, but the fact that I hope I will see tomorrow with all its goodness, the love of my family, my friends, dear ones, the flowers, the music, that I go to sleep in peace, turning myself to God. We must pray for God's mercy and forgiveness so that we can love and forgive ourselves and God's other creations and have peace with ourselves, our Creator and our surroundings.

We Muslims believe that all our suffering, failures and adversities are nothing but a test from God, who has said that "You will not enter Paradise until you are tested. " He has also said, "Be sure we will test you with something of fear and hunger, a small loss in wealth and lives and the fruits (of your labors), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere, when afflicted with calamities, to God we belong and to Him shall we return."' (Chapter 2:15, 5-157).







With a little paraphrasing, I think some of the sisters who are writing can use the information in that....



wow subhan Allah! masha Allah! thats really deep.. keep in mind that this can be the part to support the sis but its better to have something personal in it too so the sister feels as if shes having one to one contact with another sister instead of just reading a article. please can you delete the above part regarding music cz thats not allowed in islam.. and one of the reasons its better to give the sister envelopes and postage stamps is so she can reply back.. so she can take that feeling of guilt out of her, and so she can share her opinions on how she feels about it. but if one cant do that - then its alot better that the person constantly does keep sending her letters or else a person starts feelin more and more alone.. the reason why its good to send ayahs is cz they have alot of depth and she can look over them with tafsir (more in depth translation) and she can try to practice that. plz remember her bail is worth $500,000. and that is really expensive, and we still have time. if we pray for her from our hearts somethin good and positive can come out of this because (i think) she hasnt been sentenced yet. jazak Allah khayr..


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Zuko
10-02-2005, 01:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by akhee
wow subhan Allah! masha Allah! thats really deep.. keep in mind that this can be the part to support the sis but its better to have something personal in it too so the sister feels as if shes having one to one contact with another sister instead of just reading a article. please can you delete the above part regarding music cz thats not allowed in islam..

Whoa, I guess I skipped the music part.... I'll delete it insha'allah...


and one of the reasons its better to give the sister envelopes and postage stamps is so she can reply back.. so she can take that feeling of guilt out of her, and so she can share her opinions on how she feels about it. but if one cant do that - then its alot better that the person constantly does keep sending her letters or else a person starts feelin more and more alone..



Don't worry, I'll be sure to give her my address, and number, but that's if they allow people to call one another there...


the reason why its good to send ayahs is cz they have alot of depth and she can look over them with tafsir (more in depth translation) and she can try to practice that.



I'm trying to find as many uplifting ayahs as possible, but its kinda tough... Hopefully I'll find them, insha'allah...


plz remember her bail is worth $500,000. and that is really expensive, and we still have time. if we pray for her from our hearts somethin good and positive can come out of this because (i think) she hasnt been sentenced yet. jazak Allah khayr..


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
Man, if she hasn't been sentenced yet, then I'd better take out all that talk of jail from the letter... And Ramadan's right around the corner, PERFECT time to make du'aa, insha'allah all the members on LI will pray for her too...

I wonder what they'll do next time someone tries to defend herself, give her the death penalty I suppose....
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ABWAN
10-02-2005, 02:18 PM
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

So sad.. I hope things work out well for her soon inshaAllah. There is little information about what really happened (why she was in atlantic city and why she would hide the body although there is a possibility that she was scared to go out in public with what she did). Besides one other site says her name is HAILA and not hala. Does anyone have any idea when this happened? I have a feeling the reason she got the prison term may have to do with why she hid the murder. I wonder how CAIR was not involved in this. Also I have no clue how her family didnt do anything. So sad, the least we can do is pray for her inshaAllah.
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 04:54 PM
:sl: warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

its like if you put yourself in the situation - you wouldn't really leave the dead body on the bed. the reason for this is so you dont seem like a murderer, its a natural human instinct and if another person saw it later - they wouldn't come up with the whole story that the dead person was a rapist but their first response would be that a murder just took place.

so the sister needed enough time to escape without getting any sort of attention from anyone so she could go as far as possible (keep in mind she was in shock because she had just been assaulted really bad.. and shes only 17) - she never even had proper family because she only had a foster mother and her foster mother was in a casino and hala was travelling to meet up with her foster mother again..


please brothers and sisters - pray for her and that we all get guided.. and that we all can enter jannah al fardaus. this sister will have to stay in prison for 50years or a bail of $500,000 which is alot. any sisters who can post to her - that would be really greatful. but if we cant do nothin like that please just pray for all of our muslim brothers and sisters and if this life isn't easy - if we have faith, then insha Allah the akhirah will be..


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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ishkabab
10-02-2005, 05:03 PM
:sl:
wow man this is sooooo obcene...n shocking ....i dunno why America is soo strict with her...she fought with self defense n i think she did the rite thing...what would have happened if the guy killed her???........Astagfirullah!!!!
Inshallah Tala.....Allah will HELP HER!!!!
Allahu-Akbar!!!!!!!!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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sonofadam
10-02-2005, 05:48 PM
May Allah reward her for slaughtering that pig and may Allah give her steadfastness, and hasten her release.
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- Qatada -
10-02-2005, 05:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sonofadam
May Allah reward her for slaughtering that pig and may Allah give her steadfastness, and hasten her release.
ameeen.. and may Allah (swt) guide all the muslim ummah and grant us all jannah al fardaus. ameen..


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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eyes_of_mine
10-02-2005, 06:06 PM
Thats shocking ! its unbelievable that in this world a woman can gt life for defending herself against a rapist ! not to mention the fact he could of easily of killed her, he deserved to get stabbed, I hope she stabbed him in the u know what. And she is so young aswell, Im going to write to her, even if you send her a card of support its something.
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sadia
10-03-2005, 04:18 PM
inshallah we sisters will write to this sister. i am very upset to hear that story, i had tears in my eyes. may allah give her strength.
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Ameeratul Layl
10-03-2005, 04:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sadia
inshallah we sisters will write to this sister. i am very upset to hear that story, i had tears in my eyes. may allah give her strength.

:sl:

How will we write to her? :-[
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sadia
10-03-2005, 04:21 PM
Hala Gabr
Atlantic City Correctional Center
5060 Atlantic Avenue
Mays Landing, NJ 08330




thats the address and inshallah we all can send her letters of support.
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Ameeratul Layl
10-03-2005, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE=sadia]
format_quote Originally Posted by akhee
MUSLIMAH IN PRISON
For Killing A Rapist



We are urging the readers to make du'a for Hala in every prayer and to
request that sisters write her at the following address:

Hala Gabr
Atlantic City Correctional Center
5060 Atlantic Avenue
Mays Landing, NJ 08330


Jazakallah Khaire.
Al-Jihaad Editorial Team


QUOTE]

thats the address and inshallah we all can send her letters of support.
:sl:

InshAllah, I will type the letter out today and send it tomorrow. May it reach her in safe hands.

Allah ma3ik
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Ansar Al-'Adl
10-03-2005, 05:45 PM
:sl:
Has anyone even verified this story through any other independent news source?

:w:
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Muezzin
10-03-2005, 06:29 PM
:sl:

Nope, it's not been verified from other sources, but who'd make up 13 stabs?
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Ansar Al-'Adl
10-03-2005, 07:45 PM
:sl: Muezzin,
I'm not necessarily suggesting that the story is entirely fabricated (although that is a possibility), I'm suggesting that we may be missing a big part of the picture. So its a good idea to find more info especially if one plans to take action.

:w:
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jzcasejz
10-04-2005, 07:01 AM
hearing stuff like this just makes me sick. it was self defence. the saddest of all was that he raped her violently. very sad story.
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Umm Safiya
10-04-2005, 08:10 AM
Assalâmu 'alaykum wa Rahmatullâhi wa Barakâthu..

Subhân'Allâh, Ya Allâh :'(.. How can people be so cruel? Poor poor sister.. I feel so sad for her.. If she has to stay in prison for 50 years, is there anywhere you can donate money, so she inshâ'Allâh can be bailed out?
I will inshâ'Allâh write a letter to her.. I hope it reaches her, inshâ'Allâh..
May Allâh ta'âla strenghten our sabr and grant us Jannah amiin.. Allâhu Akbar!

I search her name, and here is what I found:

http://www.ishipress.com/haila.htm

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/41/41-282.htm
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Hajar
10-04-2005, 08:30 AM
:sl:

May Allâh ta'âla strenghten our sabr and grant us Jannah amiin.. Allâhu Akbar!
ameen !!!!


:w:
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Ameeratul Layl
10-04-2005, 08:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hajar
:sl:



ameen !!!!


:w:

:sl:

Ameen.Ameen.Ameen.

Allah Ma3akum :love:
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 10:29 AM
salam
ameen
wasalam
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- Qatada -
10-04-2005, 10:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ms. Amira
Assalâmu 'alaykum wa Rahmatullâhi wa Barakâthu..

Subhân'Allâh, Ya Allâh :'(.. How can people be so cruel? Poor poor sister.. I feel so sad for her.. If she has to stay in prison for 50 years, is there anywhere you can donate money, so she inshâ'Allâh can be bailed out?
I will inshâ'Allâh write a letter to her.. I hope it reaches her, inshâ'Allâh..
May Allâh ta'âla strenghten our sabr and grant us Jannah amiin.. Allâhu Akbar!
wa 'alykum asalam warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

i dont really know if you can donate ukhti because its alot of money - $500,000 american dollars. but we just gota keep praying and we gota remember that this is happening all around thw world today inc. the brothers in guantanamo bay.. we have to keep praying and ameen to your dua'.. plz remember its ramadhan and this is one of the main times when our prayers can get accepted insha Allah. jazak Allah khayr.

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 10:39 AM
salam
that is true bro
may allah accept all our duas in this blessed month
wasalam
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Ummu Amatullah
10-04-2005, 11:07 AM
Ameen.Is there a way to get in contact with the sis???????
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 11:14 AM
salam
in self defence she hit the guy with a bottle, but then why did she have to stab him not one or twice but 13 times?
wasalam
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Ummu Amatullah
10-04-2005, 11:23 AM
Well if you were a female nearly scared to death and you just hit a guy who could beat the living day lights out of you.I'm sure you wouldn't just stand there shaking okay.Seriously that's reallly scary think about it.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 11:25 AM
salam
you could just hit him with the bottle once, and the man would be knocked out, to stab him 13 times indicates that the sister knew what she was doing and killed him in hatred, that is murder not self defence
waslam
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Ummu Amatullah
10-04-2005, 11:27 AM
Ecxcuse me no brother indicating how scared she was.People sometimes when they're so afraid they can't think right the same thing with the sister.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 11:29 AM
salam
ok sis
wasalam
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Muezzin
10-04-2005, 01:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice
salam
you could just hit him with the bottle once, and the man would be knocked out, to stab him 13 times indicates that the sister knew what she was doing and killed him in hatred, that is murder not self defence
waslam
I agree and disagree. I agree that the 13 stabbings are... suspect, and will definitely not work in her favour. They're also far beyond the defence of self-defence. Her state of mind would help in mitigation (i.e. they might 'soften the blow' of a sentence), but the fact that she stabbed the guy 13 times is a very hard fact to justify. At best she might be able to plead insanity on the grounds of diminished responsibility (since she suffered a sudden and temporary loss of self-control), but it's extremely doubtful she could plead self-defence.

I disagree that she killed him in hatred, since I don't know what she was thinking. However, a jury may very well see this as evidence of malice aforethought.

May Allah grant her ease
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Ameeratul Layl
10-04-2005, 01:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
I agree and disagree. I agree that the 13 stabbings are... suspect, and will definitely not work in her favour. They're also far beyond the defence of self-defence. Her state of mind would help in mitigation (i.e. they might 'soften the blow' of a sentence), but the fact that she stabbed the guy 13 times is a very hard fact to justify. At best she might be able to plead insanity on the grounds of diminished responsibility (since she suffered a sudden and temporary loss of self-control), but it's extremely doubtful she could plead self-defence.

I disagree that she killed him in hatred, since I don't know what she was thinking. However, a jury may very well see this as evidence of malice aforethought.

May Allah grant her ease

:sl:
Ameen. :love:
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MetSudaisTwice
10-04-2005, 02:19 PM
ameen
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afriend2
10-04-2005, 03:33 PM
Ya Allah, that story is truly upsetting. let us hope we are safe drom such haraam acts and that Hala inshAllah will be free, in both worlds.
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halupalu
10-04-2005, 04:28 PM
inna lillah
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Salema
10-04-2005, 04:59 PM
Ameen 4 All Duaas..!
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Ummu Amatullah
10-04-2005, 09:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
I agree and disagree. I agree that the 13 stabbings are... suspect, and will definitely not work in her favour. They're also far beyond the defence of self-defence. Her state of mind would help in mitigation (i.e. they might 'soften the blow' of a sentence), but the fact that she stabbed the guy 13 times is a very hard fact to justify. At best she might be able to plead insanity on the grounds of diminished responsibility (since she suffered a sudden and temporary loss of self-control), but it's extremely doubtful she could plead self-defence.

I disagree that she killed him in hatred, since I don't know what she was thinking. However, a jury may very well see this as evidence of malice aforethought.

May Allah grant her ease
Okay slow down there lawyer. :thumbs_up Ameen ;)
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- Qatada -
10-04-2005, 09:57 PM
All praise is due to Allah. We praise him, and seek his help and forgiveness. We seek refuge in Allah, most high from the evils of our own selves and from our wicked deeds. Whomever Allah guides can not be misguided, and whomever he leads astray can not be guided. I testify that there is no true God worthy of being worshipped except Allah, alone, without partner or associate. I further testify that Muhammad is his slave and messenger, may Allah’s salaah and salamm also be granted to the prophet’s pure family and to all of his noble companions


from wa the rapist did.. its well obvious that her mind was soo confused and she was afraid - she was really angry and scared and because of that you have alot of adrenaline inside of u.. she wanted to escape without no-one noticing and so she would have enough time without getting any attention which lead to her hiding the body..

erytime i remember it i think - her foster mother went to gamble and therefore maybe her parenting wasnt right which might lead to her getting to know muslim sisters in prison - which might lead to her having more faith insha Allah. this happens to alot of brothers and sisters and thats why they alot of reverts in prison.. but then i think about it and its a 50years sentence..

so i think we should just pray that Allah (swt) guides us all.. and pray for what is for the best for all the muslim ummah. insha Allah she could get a early release and be a better practisin muslim than b4.. insha Allah. may Allah (swt) guide us all and grant us all jannah al firdaus - ameen.


Allah (swt) knows best.



wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Ummu Amatullah
10-04-2005, 10:02 PM
Ameen yeah maybe?Who knows?Jazak'Allah though :thumbs_up :thumbs_up
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- Qatada -
10-04-2005, 10:11 PM
Allah (swt) knows best.


so lets just have faith in Allah (swt) and pray cz thats all we can do right now.. remember - alot of your prayers get answered in ramadhan. barak Allah u feekum.


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Far7an
10-05-2005, 11:48 AM
Assalamu alaikum
format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
:sl:
Has anyone even verified this story through any other independent news source?

:w:
I saw this posted on another forum, the brother said he recieved it via email.
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Muezzin
10-05-2005, 12:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Far7an
Assalamu alaikum

I saw this posted on another forum, the brother said he recieved it via email.
Doesn't sound very concrete :confused:
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Bass
10-05-2005, 04:55 PM
I agree it si very sad that nowadays muslims are being treated
harsher. The kuffars just want a reason to put muslims behind
bars in the name of "JUSTICE". But we should not be afraid as
Allah promised us victory.

Verily the Hereafter is better than this life

salam
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Rabi'ya
10-06-2005, 03:10 PM
I would suggest that in the heat of the moment she would have been confused....could she not plead temporary insanity?! its a possibility no?!

Allah be with her during this hard time....ameen

:w:

Rabi'ya:rose:
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- Qatada -
10-06-2005, 03:15 PM
i dont think they would allow it.. most of the time they just want any excuse to give muslims a bad name and cause them distress.. this way it causes more pressure on the muslims and makes them feel helpless.. this is one of the main reasons we shouldn't even live in a kafir dominated society esp. where there are kufar leaders in power:


O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand. (3:118)
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Rabi'ya
10-06-2005, 03:21 PM
yeh true true....

She will be in my duaa's and inshaAllah she will stay strong.

makes me angry each time i read somethign like this...

but at the end of the day the rapist got what he deserved which he probably wouldnt if he was tried under the law of America. unfortunately one of our innocent sisters has to suffer too....

:w:

Rabi'ya:rose:
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MetSudaisTwice
10-06-2005, 03:24 PM
salam
as much i feel sorry for the sis, i still think she should be rightfully punished for murder
she will be in my duas
wasalam
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- Qatada -
10-06-2005, 03:30 PM
i dont agree with you akhi.. shes your sister and if you come to reality - she shouldn't. and even if you say she should get punished - a person gets life for murdering someone and that equals 25years. now how come shes getting 50years for it? second - she got assaulted really violently and if that doesn't make you angry (remember shes your own sister) then i dno what will.. and they never still put the amount of years lower [due to her being assaulted], and my last point is - she was in a mode of distress where she couldn't think straight and therefore the penalty should drop lower from that too. why is her bail so high? is $500,000 really the price for murder bail?

i dont understand how you agree with laws like this.. is this really equality?


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-06-2005, 03:35 PM
salam
ok if this happened in a country like saudi, what do you think they would have done to the sister? she stabbed a man multiple times and they can't do anything to the man because he is dead
wasalam
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- Qatada -
10-06-2005, 03:42 PM
akhi the guy who would do that would get death anyway - yeh she did stab the guy multiple times but this was probably due to the distress which she was in, she was desperate to escape so the guy wouldn't get back up. you take alot of considerations including what he did to her and how that affected her mentally aswell as physically which lead to the increase of fear and adrenaline. seriosly put yourself in the situation of the sister but if you cant do that then at least imagine the sister being your first sister..

and if the sister was in arabia - she might have got a lighter punishment due to the punishment of the rapist being high. but in the kufar countries - the punishment of rape is really light and they dont even care if someone gets raped whereas in islamic law its a really important and dangerous matter.


Allah (swt) knows best.

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-06-2005, 03:44 PM
salam
mashallah bro you are correct i know rape is a evil sin, but she still took a life away but i hope she does get a light punishment because she doesn't deserve to be treated the way she was
wasalam
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- Qatada -
10-06-2005, 03:45 PM
wa 'alykum asalam warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

ameen. barak Allah u feek.


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-06-2005, 03:48 PM
salam
may allah help her in the difficult times and may allah guide us all
wasalam
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- Qatada -
10-06-2005, 07:35 PM
subhan Allah! to all the sisters who are going to post to sister haila, the address has changed. so please send to:

New Jersey State Prison
Hail Gabr
SBI# 000505141C
PO BOX 861
Trenton, NJ 08625


jazak Allah khayr.. sorry for the late update but a bro just posted this up. barak Allah u feek..


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Muezzin
10-07-2005, 04:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by akhee
i dont agree with you akhi.. shes your sister and if you come to reality - she shouldn't. and even if you say she should get punished - a person gets life for murdering someone and that equals 25years. now how come shes getting 50years for it?
Murder sentences are served concurrently (at the same time). She'll be entitled for parole if she's well-behaved, which I think is likely inshallah.

Second - she got assaulted really violently and if that doesn't make you angry (remember shes your own sister) then i dno what will..
A lot of people kill in anger or some other strong emotion. Though I may or may not agree with the motives, it does not change the fact that a crime has been comitted. It's like if a guy steals to feed his family, though I agree with the motives, he's still technically a thief.

and they never still put the amount of years lower [due to her being assaulted], and my last point is - she was in a mode of distress where she couldn't think straight and therefore the penalty should drop lower from that too. why is her bail so high? is $500,000 really the price for murder bail?
I honestly don't know. The US system is different from that of the UK so...

i dont understand how you agree with laws like this.. is this really equality?
We have to abide by the laws of the land we live in, whether we agree with them or not.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya
I would suggest that in the heat of the moment she would have been confused....could she not plead temporary insanity?! its a possibility no?!
She'd have a really bad lawyer if she wasn't advised to plead something like that.
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imaad_udeen
10-07-2005, 07:33 PM
The interesting thing about this, and probably the reason she was detained, is because she hid the body and did not notify authorities right away. If she killed him in self defense, she should have notified the authorities right away.

As it looks now, it seems like she enticed him to the hotel with the promise of sex, murdered him and stole his money. That is probably why she was arrested.

From what I know, she hasn't been convicted yet, and if there is evidence of sexual assault, she probably will not be convicted.

But she really messed up by hiding the body, taking his stuff and leaving in his car. It doesn't look good.
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imaad_udeen
10-07-2005, 07:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
She'd have a really bad lawyer if she wasn't advised to plead something like that.
It is hard to use an insanity defense in the united states since the burden of proof in such a case shifts to the defense, the defense must then prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant was not aware that what she was doing was wrong.

This is very hard to prove in a court of law and temp. insanity please almost always fail in the United States.
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muslimrebel
10-08-2005, 04:12 PM
mann dat is sooo sad.....inshallah allah will make things easier for her.....do dua every1..inshallah dat she will be in safety wif allah's help.....oh and some1 mentioned terrorism was the cause here......brother or sista,.......terrorism is only for muslims......dats wat they beleive.....we are terrorists but they are angels.....
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Muezzin
10-09-2005, 09:52 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by muslimrebel
oh and some1 mentioned terrorism was the cause here....
Eh? Where the heck does terrorism come into this?

Imaad, I'm aware that temporary insanity and diminished responsibility are hard to prove in court, but they seem to be the only defences she has.

Come to think of it, maybe she could use Provocation.

Or something.
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Far7an
10-09-2005, 10:13 AM
Assalamu alaikum

Has any spoken to the sister? had any replies to letters?

Do we even know if she exists? Before you all bash me, take this into consideration, this is something which is being emailed around, nothing has been mentioned in any sites, not even 1. Go ahead, type her name in google, and results from other forums will appear, the best excuse of a site I could fine was :

http://www.ishipress.com/haila.htm

Which has cheap music in the background.

As muslims we are taught to confirm something, before passing it on...

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.
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imaad_udeen
10-09-2005, 09:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
Eh? Where the heck does terrorism come into this?

Imaad, I'm aware that temporary insanity and diminished responsibility are hard to prove in court, but they seem to be the only defences she has.

Come to think of it, maybe she could use Provocation.

Or something.
She could just plead not guilty and hope the jury believes her story. Thats about the only other option.
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Zuko
10-12-2005, 09:46 AM
Got this in an e-mail:


as salaamu alaykom wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

A brother from New Jersey was able to find some more information
about this sister(may Allah reward him).

· Her name is Haila Gabr, some news outlets misquoted her name
· Second this case is a few years old. He couldn't confirm when this
incident occurred but knows that is not a new case.
· She was moved from Atlantic City jail to New Jersey State Prison.
· Her sentence was reduced to about 8 years.

The brother was also able to get her mailing address just incase
some sisters want to send her mail so as to comfort her especially
during this month of Ramadan. They can mail her at:

HAILA GABR
NJ STATE PRISON
P.O BOX 861
TRENTON NJ 08625

May Allah make it easy on her...
Remember, if we show mercy to those on earth, Allah will shower His
mercy upon us.. i hope some of you take the effort to write to this
poor sister. may allah give her strength. ameen.


assalaamu alaykom wa fi amanillah
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- Qatada -
10-12-2005, 02:13 PM
"Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection.” (Bukhari)


jazak Allah for the update sis.



wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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MetSudaisTwice
10-12-2005, 02:16 PM
salam
yes jazakallah
much appreciated
wasalam
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Sadia25
10-12-2005, 06:10 PM
yes.
jazakalla
much apreciated.
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Bass
10-12-2005, 06:12 PM
It's v. sad wot da kafirs r doing 2 get rid the muslims
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Muezzin
10-12-2005, 06:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Bass
It's v. sad wot da kafirs r doing 2 get rid the muslims
??

The same thing would have happened if the woman was non-Muslim.
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imaad_udeen
10-13-2005, 02:06 AM
This isn't a religion thing, this is an 'action' thing.

Right or wrong, she was arrested for her actions.
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eyes_of_mine
10-13-2005, 10:46 PM
To be fair, I remember all those women getting locked up for being guilty by proxy, example their boyfreind (of all of 2 weeks) was a drug dealer and they did not realise, the boyfreind got busted and the girlfreind got life for involvment in drugs, and these women were all types of women, black, white ect.
sadly American law is most unjust.
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imaad_udeen
10-14-2005, 07:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by eyes_of_mine
To be fair, I remember all those women getting locked up for being guilty by proxy, example their boyfreind (of all of 2 weeks) was a drug dealer and they did not realise, the boyfreind got busted and the girlfreind got life for involvment in drugs, and these women were all types of women, black, white ect.
sadly American law is most unjust.

I know this has happened, but is it as wide spread as you say? Can you cite a few cases, I'm interested...
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eyes_of_mine
11-03-2005, 07:14 PM
Imaad_deen
There was a movie made about it, but I can't remember the name, if you some research you will discover the crazed laws of USA.

I wrote to the sister Hailah, And elhamdolelah I recived a letter from her today mashallah !
I sent the letter recorded delivery to her, coz you know how letters can get 'lost' in the post, ahem !

Well mashallah the sister is very very brave, she was so happy to get a letter from another sister, especially in ramadan ! and I was so happy to get her letter in this day of Eid !

She says that she accepted a plea bargain of 10 years with 85% , basically means she is up for parole in dec 07, parole does not mean though she will be free for sure.
Her spirit seems very high and her Imaam seemed intact elhamdolelah !
She wanted to know all about this thread on this forum , this girl is clinging to allah, was very touching to read her letter.
She says when she gets out she wants to help other muslims that are locked up . mashallah.
Her exact words, were 'she wants to do everything possible to aid the muslimeen!'

Look how she is thinking and yet she is locked up in that hell hole, may allah bless her !

Well she knows of nobody campaigning or highlighting her case in UK, so im going to write back to her and get more details inshallah and make a decision on if it will be benefical to start a campaign for her, Im sure it will.
To atleast put pressure on them to release her in her parole of dec 07
Anyone who will be interested to help please pm me your email address's for future reference, particulary anyone who can make and design a website.
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ABWAN
11-03-2005, 07:36 PM
Assalamu alaikum wr wb

Well she knows of nobody campaigning or highlighting her case in UK, so im going to write back to her and get more details inshallah and make a decision on if it will be benefical to start a campaign for her, Im sure it will.
To atleast put pressure on them to release her in her parole of dec 07
Anyone who will be interested to help please pm me your email address's for future reference, particulary anyone who can make and design a website.
If she is in usa, I dont think any organization in UK would be of any help. Although there are a few organizations that takes up the case of muslim prisoners (I think there is one for prisoners in Guantanamo), the most prominent one in USA is CAIR. There would at least be some exposure if CAIR takes up a case. But for some reason, they havent done anything about this sister, although they were intimated. It surprises me why no one (not even the family) is willing to even help her. It's good that she is responding to mails. I have seen quite a few websites made for such cause and I honestly have no idea how a website would be of any help.
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- Qatada -
11-03-2005, 07:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ABWAN
Assalamu alaikum wr wb

If she is in usa, I dont think any organization in UK would be of any help. Although there are a few organizations that takes up the case of muslim prisoners (I think there is one for prisoners in Guantanamo), the most prominent one in USA is CAIR. There would at least be some exposure if CAIR takes up a case. But for some reason, they havent done anything about this sister, although they were intimated. It surprises me why no one (not even the family) is willing to even help her. It's good that she is responding to mails. I have seen quite a few websites made for such cause and I honestly have no idea how a website would be of any help.

wa alykum asalam warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

i think this is because she doesnt have a proper family, Allah u a'lam but the article said her 'foster mother' had gone to a casino and the girl was going to meet with her again. so from that plot - it seems as if her foster mother may not have proper been into islam if she was gambling/going to a casino, yet at the same time because she is her 'foster mother' - it doesn't seem as if she would care that much because its not her real mother.


Allah u a'lam (Allah (swt) knows best.)


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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eyes_of_mine
11-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Abwan brother, don't be so pessimisitic,I think we should be optimisitic we have ALLAH on our side after all.
Yes caged prisoners (www.cagedprisoners.com) could possibly be of help should a english side campaign be started for her.
I can think of LOADS of things to do, and a website will help highlight it, get an online petition for example, and put her letters on the site ect.
And Im sure IHRC will be interested in her case inshallah.

She has not mentioned anything about her case or family, but if you look back to the case how she ended up in the postion she did.
She was more suprised to get a letter and say a million thankyous and talk about Allah before she mentioned what happened.
so Im gonna ask her for more details ect, inshalah.

Atleast write to the sister and send your thoughts, even if its a thinking of you card.
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ABWAN
11-03-2005, 08:28 PM
There are a couple of websites already having her story and updates and If I am not wrong, there is also a low profile organization trying to get some help for her and others in prison. And from what I have read people (at least a few) have visited her a few times (although not regularly).

It would require a lot of convincing for a big organization like CAIR to take this up and probably more for people to donate for such a cause. It would help if they get a clear picture of what had happened. One news article honestly would be of little help.
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eyes_of_mine
11-03-2005, 08:34 PM
Exactly, which is why Im going to get more details inshallah.
The website that was talking about her, the article was old maybe 2 years, I did a search all over net for her, and there was nothing.
Not even a news article ! and i checked so much.
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sis_saleha
11-03-2005, 10:04 PM
assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters
inshallah u r all well
i cnt believe how america treats the innocent and lets the guilty roam the streets if they knew this guy was a rapist why was he a cab driver? its such a sad story a young girl in the wrong place and because of 1 harami kaafir she now has her life taken from her her freedom and now she in a filthy prison where the kaffirs make up the rules astagfirullah !!!
inshallah i will write to her and encourage other sisters to do the same sisters imagine you was in that position u were brutally raped then u was sent to prison for it !!! where is the justice these kaffirs have no hearts
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binte fazal
11-08-2005, 02:37 PM
well what wld they have expected her 2 du?hw ws she gna escape,he hardly wld've walked her 2 the door now wld he?its called SELF DEFENCE!!

and YES to calling him a TERRORIST!!
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Halima
11-13-2005, 12:15 AM
:sl:

please refrain from typing in caps and using exclamation points, because this indicates shouting.

:w:
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sapphire
11-13-2005, 12:32 AM
OMG!!!That is just soooo sad....i have to go everywhere alone on my own...and this will be on my mind now....may Allah protect the rest of us from all harm..ameen...
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Halima
11-13-2005, 12:35 AM
Just make Dua and inshAllah Allah(swt) will protect us all


AMEEN.
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Caliphate
11-13-2005, 11:42 AM
Assalamu alikom wr wb,

Oh my Allah....He raped her!!! This sick and pathetic Kaffir. She did the right thing to kill him and defend herself.

Oh Allah swt protect the weak and those in need of your protection and make the pain of this sister one that will pass and give her mercy and forgiveness.

Ameen Ya Rahman!!!
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- Qatada -
11-19-2005, 03:12 PM
“A woman who is forced to commit Zina (adultery or fornication) is obliged to defend herself and should not give in, even if she kills the one who wants to rape her. Self-defense is obligatory, and she is not at fault if she kills the one who wants to force her into having sex.

Our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said: “Whoever is killed in defense of his property is a martyr, whoever is killed in defense of himself is a martyr, whoever is killed in defense of his religion is a martyr, and whoever is killed in defense of his family is a martyr.” (Reported by Imam Ahmad and Ibn Hibban)

read more...


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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Mu'maneen
11-19-2005, 03:21 PM
:sl:

May Allah bless her soul in this Dunya and in the Akhira with the Highest Station of Al-Firdaus, and may Allah place her amongst the 70,000 Muslims who enter Paradise with no account on The Day of Judgment.

As she is Muslim the government will treat her as the criminal. May Allah ruin the lives of those who try to harm her or upset her!

I pray that the Muslims in America stand up for her and support her until she is freed Inshah'Allah. Not only that, but we all must stand up for her wherever we are in the World. She is our Sister, part of our hearts. If she feels pain, so should our hearts feel the pain alongside her.


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Halima
11-19-2005, 03:26 PM
:sl: Ameen.:w:
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mahdisoldier19
11-22-2005, 08:17 PM
Salam

Inshallah when i become a lawyer i will get her out , i will pray for this sister as much as i can , I HATE RAPISTS
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Muezzin
11-22-2005, 08:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19
Salam

Inshallah when i become a lawyer i will get her out , i will pray for this sister as much as i can , I HATE RAPISTS
We all hate rapists. And I'm sure the sister will be eligible for parole soon enough.
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libyanhero
11-25-2005, 12:38 AM
wallahi sisters thats scary even to witness but what can you do in such a world, subhannallah
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mehnaz
11-25-2005, 08:47 AM
omg!!!!!...I wish i cud help her in some way...the best i can do is pray for her....May Allah accept all of our prayers....Ameen...
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Mr. Baldy
11-25-2005, 10:40 PM
oh.. didnt you know brother, if your a muslim, your automatically guilty
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Muezzin
11-26-2005, 01:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mr. Baldy
oh.. didnt you know brother, if your a muslim, your automatically guilty
Oh, didn't you know brother, if you kill in peacetime, you're automatically guilty of murder or manslaughter even if you're non-muslim.

Really, we need to get this collective chip off our shoulder and stop playing the... I don't know, 'religious' card.
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Mr. Baldy
11-26-2005, 03:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
Oh, didn't you know brother, if you kill in peacetime, you're automatically guilty of murder or manslaughter even if you're non-muslim.

Really, we need to get this collective chip off our shoulder and stop playing the... I don't know, 'religious' card.
i love you to man,

what about self deffence? i dont know about you, but if someone was trying to rape me, id wat to kill them
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sapphire
11-26-2005, 04:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mr. Baldy
i love you to man,

what about self deffence? i dont know about you, but if someone was trying to rape me, id wat to kill them

ermmm!!!!!but like your a guy!!!!mostly its guys who rape girls rite??and the girl would most likely give up fighting coz she knowes she will be defeated.....
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Muezzin
11-26-2005, 04:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mr. Baldy
i love you to man,

what about self deffence? i dont know about you, but if someone was trying to rape me, id wat to kill them
Yeah, but it might still be involuntary manslaughter.

Sorry for sounding harsh. I'm just frustrated at the prevalent attitude that Muslims are being picked on ALL the time. I mean, yeah, a lot of times there is evidence of hatred against Muslims, but judging from the facts of this unfortunate young lady, it's not Muslims being treated unfairly.
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- Qatada -
11-26-2005, 04:36 PM
Salaam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.


i just want to put this point forward again insha Allaah:

“A woman who is forced to commit Zina (adultery or fornication) is obliged to defend herself and should not give in, even if she kills the one who wants to rape her. Self-defense is obligatory, and she is not at fault if she kills the one who wants to force her into having sex.

Our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said: “Whoever is killed in defense of his property is a martyr, whoever is killed in defense of himself is a martyr, whoever is killed in defense of his religion is a martyr, and whoever is killed in defense of his family is a martyr.” (Reported by Imam Ahmad and Ibn Hibban)

read more...


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.
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sapphire
11-26-2005, 04:38 PM
Jazakallah for that bro!!!Although thats hard if we dont live in muslim countrys inshallah we shall benefit in the hereafter.....
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*charisma*
11-26-2005, 04:42 PM
Assalamu Alaikum

Indeed, Allah is most Just..

cuz i wud definately attack anyone that tried to touch me :mad:or go that far anways

May Allah help that sister where we cannot, ease her worries and pains, and protect her from future evil ameen.


Jazak Allah Khair bro

Fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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Hisbul_Aziz
11-26-2005, 05:16 PM
that is soooooooooooooo cool i wish i had a chance to do that
:w:
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sapphire
11-26-2005, 05:28 PM
which bit bro u refering to???:-\
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hidden_treasure
12-13-2005, 01:52 AM
Assalamu alaikum,

The law in countries like this protect the offender.

If you fight back, you are the one who will be persecuted...

That is why the rapists keep on raping...and the child molesters keep on molesting...they are just getting a slap on the wrist...if that...

How absolutely revolting!
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Snowflake
12-18-2005, 05:50 PM
OMG the poor sis. Thanks for this article. I'm going to follow up this case. There is a duua specifically for cases like this (injustice). I don't know how far I'll get but I'll try to get in touch with this sister somehow. This is too awful to ignore. :(:(:(
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Muezzin
12-18-2005, 07:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by hidden_treasure
Assalamu alaikum,

The law in countries like this protect the offender.

If you fight back, you are the one who will be persecuted...

That is why the rapists keep on raping...and the child molesters keep on molesting...they are just getting a slap on the wrist...if that...
I beg to differ.

They're put on the sex offenders register, and they'll get jail time, where, frankly, they'll get a taste of their own medicine.

Besides, this occured too late after the event to be self-defence, though I do understand why she did it.
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Snowflake
12-24-2005, 12:37 PM
I've written a letter today but will post it when the post offices open after christmas.

I was wondering if anyone of you has written to sister Haila and furthermore have you received a reply???
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Caplets
10-02-2019, 08:40 PM
السلام عليكم

Any current news on the sister?
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Mandy
10-03-2019, 02:19 AM
This is very old news. You could always try to do a google search I imagine but I doubt you will find much.
Especially since there is no name of the man who was killed and all you would have to go on would be the name of the muslimah, it will be hard to search for.

Not to mention, if she is still in prison, there is not much information available about prisoners. If she is out of prison, she probable wants to turn the page and does not talk much about this dark time in her life.
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Ahmed.
10-03-2019, 07:17 PM
She hid the dead body and tried to escape the law, this is why she became a suspect. She should have phoned the police straight away after neutralising the rapist
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keiv
10-04-2019, 12:17 AM
Someone from the ummah forum posted an update in 2017 stating she had been released (https://www.ummah.com/forum/forum/mi...7#post10474417). The link is old and the article seemed to have vanished.
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Avis
10-04-2019, 12:27 AM
I can't imagine being in her shoes. May Allah grant her patience and may He make her life easier. This just shows you how screwed up the Kuffars Justice system is.
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Ahmed.
10-04-2019, 03:47 PM
Alhamdulillah she was released after 2 years.....
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Mandy
10-05-2019, 12:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed.
She hid the dead body and tried to escape the law, this is why she became a suspect. She should have phoned the police straight away after neutralising the rapist
I am not saying she lied. But trying to get rid of a body without anyone finding out does seem odd. I do understand why she was suspected. Now that does not mean she was not assaulted. It would have been so much easier for her had she just called the police right away.
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Islami.Mu'mina
10-06-2019, 11:11 AM
InshaAllah everything gets better, it must have been hard.
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