working in a supermarket haram?

[moeglisa]

i work for now for three years in a supermarket and we also sell wine, beer and pork etc. is it haram for me to work there?

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:sl: warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

sis, from the following hadith - it is a sin because our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) who:


Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.


Hadith - Al-Tirmidhi #2776, Narrated Anas ibn Malik


because you are working for the business who sells haraam items inc. alcohol, pork etc. this means you are conveying the item, serving it, and also selling it in a way because you are working for the store.

dictionary
convey - To take or carry from one place to another; transport.

Allah u a'lam (Allah (swt) knows best.)

[Muezzin]

Work in Marks and Spencers instead. Goodness knows they need help. :p ;)

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:sl: warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

Selling pork is haraam whether it is sold to a Muslim or to a kaafir. The evidence for that is as follows:

1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): I find not in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be Maytah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth (by slaughtering or the like), or the flesh of salcohol (pork); for that surely, is impure or impious (unlawful) meat (of an animal) which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols, or on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering”

[al-An’aam 6:145]

And the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us an important principle when he said: “When Allaah forbids a thing, He (also) forbids its price.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3488; classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Ghaayat al-Maraam, 318.

2 – It was narrated from Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say when he was in Makkah at the time of the Conquest: “Allaah and His Messenger have forbidden the sale of alcohol, dead meat, pork and idols.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what do you think of the fat of dead animals, for ships are caulked with it and animal skins are daubed with it, and the people use it to light their lamps?” He said: “No, it is haraam.” Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May Allaah curse the Jews, for when Allaah forbade them animal fat, they melted it down and sold it, and consumed its price.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1212; Muslim, 1581.

Al-Nawawi said:

With regard to dead meat, alcohol and pork, the Muslims are unanimously agreed that it is haraam to sell all of these.

Al-Qaadi said: This hadeeth indicates that whatever we are forbidden to eat or make use of, we are also forbidden to sell, and it is not permissible to consume its price, as in the case of the animal fat mentioned in this hadeeth.

Sharh Muslim, 11/8

Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali said, after quoting the ahaadeeth about the prohibition on alcohol:

The conclusion we may draw from all these ahaadeeth is that whatever Allaah has forbidden us to make use of, it is also haraam to sell it and consume its price, as is stated clearly in the hadeeth: “When Allaah forbids a thing, He (also) forbids its price.” This is a general, comprehensive phrase which applies to everything which is intended to be used in haraam ways. These fall into two categories:

(i) Things which are to be used and will remain as they are, such as idols. The purpose for which they are used is shirk or association of others with Allaah, which is the greatest of all sins. We may add to that books of shirk, witchcraft, innovation (bid’ah) and misguidance, forbidden images, forbidden means of entertainment and also buying slave women who will serve as singers.

(ii) Things which are to be used and which will be used up. If in the majority of cases a thing is used for haraam purposes, then it is haraam to sell it. For example, it is haraam to sell pork, alcohol and dead meat even though they may – on rare occasions – be used for a permissible purpose, such as eating dead meat for those who are in extreme need, or using alcohol to stop oneself choking or to putt out a fire, or using pig hairs for beading, or making use of the hair and skin of a pig – according to those who approve of that. But because these are not the reason for which these things are produced, and the usual use for pigs and dead meat is to eat them, and the usual use for alcohol is to drink it, so no attention should be paid to these reasons, and it is haraam to sell these things.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicated this when it was said to him: “What do you think of the fat of dead animals, for ships are caulked with it and animal skins are daubed with it, and the people use it to light their lamps?” He said: “No, it is haraam.”

Jaami’ al-‘Uloom wa’l-Hukam, 1/415, 416

The Standing Committee was asked: Is it permissible to deal in alcohol and pork if one is not selling them to a Muslim? They replied: It is not permissible to deal in foods and other things that Allaah has forbidden, such as alcohol and pork, even if one is selling them to kaafirs, because it is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When Allaah forbids a thing, He also forbids its price.” And because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed alcohol, the one who drinks it, the one who sells it, the one who buys it, the one who carries it, the one to whom it is carried, the one who consumes its price, the one who squeezes (the grapes, etc) and the one for whom it is squeezed.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 13/49.

Allah u a'lam (Allah (swt) knows best.)

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

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[Genius]

If the supermarket sells porno or marijuana then yes it probably is haram.

[minaz]

Work in Marks and Spencers instead

That's your answer to everything these days, besides they're one of Israel's biggest sponsor

If the supermarket sells porno or marijuana then yes it probably is haram.

;D ;D ;D

Anywho yeh you could say working in an environment which sells pork and alcohol is haraam - as you get your wages from the same pot as the profits. However living in a non-muslim coutry we are all commiting sin, our taxes (whether direct or non-direct) all end up in the same pot - which funds all sorts of bad stuff i.e. Iraq war and the education of the likes of Brother Muezzin :p

[eyes_of_mine]

J/K minaz
Im glad you pointed that Marks and spencers is a supporter of Israel for a list of other companys and products please see BIG's website.http://www.bigcampaign.org/
In the west it can be kind of hard trying to find a job where no haram things are going on , espeically if your a woman its twice as hard .

[nikki]

:w:

i am in full agreement wit evry1!
espesh cuz it is sooooo hard to find a halal job wen u think store work is tha easiest to get hold of!
i wud suggest u apply to an agency n get an office job or sumit!
there is gender mixing but it seems to be on a more professional level!
(thas wot i reckon neways!)

take care n good luck sis!

xxx 1 :love: , 1 Imaan, 1 Ummah xxx

[ummbilal]

there are plently of halal places to work, mashallah to hear some of you you'd think tesco was the only job option,

if you work in a food/wine store you can take that experience to a big DIY store/ furniture store/electrical store/bakery selling halal food.... sister there are lots of options.

as for an office enviroment, i wouldnt recommend it, there are too many times when you'll find yourself alone with a male collegue which is haram also the dating scense in always big in offices, but if you can find a women only office then Allhumdulilah,

have you thought of other things like starting an ebay shop selling e books(halal ones of course)

making jewelry and selling it,

etc...

Marks and spencer??
sell haram products as well as fund israel.

inshaallah you will find a halal job asap

[minaz]

Marks and spencer??

Lol don't worry Brother Muezzin was just pointing out how they need workers because no-one likes to work there serving all those snoby customers!
You who do not know Brother Muezzin must excuse him for his sense of humour - because he's a law student :p

[razzzy101]

I dnt think its harama as lng as u wear full hijaab for a girl, keep ur gaze lowered n no satr is exposed n u dnt interact with ne 1 so much...all the islamiz laws must be obeyed

[Muezzin]

Um, where's my Marks and Spencer post gone? :p

Seriously and on topic, is it not possible for you to work in a different type of retailer, such as a clothing shop? :)

[Protected_Diamond]

PHEW!!

is a good thing i choose not to work in a supermarket whoaaa

[Muezzin]

isn't it there ? :?
First i thought it was opp of :

It's there now. Strange. It disappeared for a few days. Hmm.

[ABWAN]

I dnt think its harama as lng as u wear full hijaab for a girl, keep ur gaze lowered n no satr is exposed n u dnt interact with ne 1 so much...all the islamiz laws must be obeyed

just curious... would it be possible for someone to work in a store (where their job is to help customers) to keep their gaze lowered? besides how odd would it look (from the customer's point of view) to see a girl fully covered (which only means she is religious) and still sell alcohol!!!

[Muezzin]

just curious... would it be possible for someone to work in a store (where their job is to help customers) to keep their gaze lowered? besides how odd would it look (from the customer's point of view) to see a girl fully covered (which only means she is religious) and still sell alcohol!!!

Muslims are allowed to sell alcohol in chemists mate :p

Seriously, it's not a good idea to work in establishments selling alcoholic beverages.

[Bittersteel]

Work in Marks and Spencers instead. Goodness knows they need help.

umm....its gone coz it belongs to the Jews?

:sl:

[Muezzin]

umm....its gone coz it belongs to the Jews?

:sl:

The Jews one everything man. We need to look past these kinds of barriers. Or heck, start our own businesses off :)

[ABWAN]

Muslims are allowed to sell alcohol in chemists mate :p

Seriously, it's not a good idea to work in establishments selling alcoholic beverages.

Well the drugs have alcohol as an *ingredient* and not the only *ingredient*. So you won't be technically selling alcohol if you are working in some drug store.

[Muezzin]

Well the drugs have alcohol as an *ingredient* and not the only *ingredient*. So you won't be technically selling alcohol if you are working in some drug store.

Technically, you are selling alcohol. However, it's not haraam because it's part of medicine. You're not selling alcoholic beverages so it's okay.

Anyway, on topic, any luck in finding a job in a more Islamically friendly environment? :)

[baby_muslimah15]

The Jews one everything man. We need to look past these kinds of barriers. Or heck, start our own businesses off :)

Lool yea I'm wit ya on dat 1....But Heyy I didnt know working in a supermarket is haraam, cuz I just filled out 4 an application like 2 hours ago(seriously no lie) then I cum on LI and people saying its haraam...I know my mom told me I couldnt work at a Resturant becuz people actually order alcohol and what not, But since i'm a Minor anywayz I would only be bagging and pushing the carts(but heyy I kinda like the idea of working), well Holla Backz

[minaz]

I kinda like the idea of working..Holla Backz

'women shouldn't work'

[Muezzin]

'women shouldn't work'

'Life is Fitnah'

'Get a Job'

'Back off man, I'm a scientist'

'OFF-TOPIC'

And other family-friendly T-shirt lines.

[moeglisa]

'women shouldn't work'

salaam,

why not? i mean, it's not haraam, and i'm one of 5 children so i can't have anything i want if i don't work for it...

for the rest thnx for your replies, i will try to quit soon, but i first want to get some other work,inshaa Allah cuz i'm busy with my drivinglessons :rollseyes and it's very exspensive :(

[montoyauk]

i have been working for tescos for 9 years:grumbling

on top its a jew owned company

yet we all shop there:uuh:

[Muezzin]

salaam,

why not? i mean, it's not haraam, and i'm one of 5 children so i can't have anything i want if i don't work for it...

I agree that women should be able to work if they choose. Brother Minaz was being ironic in his post. ;)

[julie sarri]

:sl: inshaallah i hope allah (swt) find you somethinck better becouse it is haraam i was glad when i finshed my job there was so much haraam ther and i worked in a nusery so meny non muslim women backbitting,drincking and so on alhamdulillallah allah took me away from this haraam its not been esay but i'm looking for a halal job now inshaallah:w: