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Far7an
11-15-2005, 10:18 PM
A Perfect forum written by brother 'LivingUnderMercy'.

Assalamu’ alaykum wa rahmatu allahi wa barakatuh…

I feel compelled to ask this question: What does a “perfect” forum consist of?

To me, a “perfect” forum is undeniably an Islamically operated one. I don’t mean a forum that enriches its image with the implication of being Islamic -not at all - but I truly mean a forum that regulates, enforces, and most importantly teaches the values of the Quran and Sunnah. Now, you might ask me, how is this possible?

First of all, it’s a two way street, which demands a broad understanding and compassion from the people in charge as well as the registered members of a forum. On the other hand, most members join forums either because they find their friends mingling in a particular chat arena or because they want to escape the reality of accomplishment by indulging in insignificant chat, which allows them to fill any missing insecurities they have in their personalities. It is sad to say that we find minimal amount of members espousing the agenda to make forums an interactively educational and faithful experience. An Islamic promoted forum could provide a foreground in beneficial reminderss to the many youth that spend long hours surfing the net after landing upon illicit sites. Islamic forums should advertise the Islamic arena and situate itself amongst others so that the youth could be directly linked to safe grounds. Inside, they can be reminded and enlightened with the authentic teaching of Islam. Allah says, “And continue to remind, for surely the reminder profits the believers” (51:55) It is well worth it to say that one could read a verse, a hadith, or a thread and then undergoes a spiritual transformation by the will of Allah, and his/her embraces the signs of Allah. Yet, we are unaware of this. We continue with our idle chats and argue with utter disregard to first-time visitors or new members, who by the way will act upon first impression. Little do we know that many of the guests and members escape the scope of the Internet forums since their first insight into them are a horrific one. They soon are convinced to the vulgarity of some Muslims, and are repulsed by immature acts. This very incident, which happens regularly, detracts from the purpose of establishing forums.

Can we deny that we sometimes go to forums in hopes of relaxing? No, we cannot. This is a natural and innate feeling that a person wishes to comfort her/himself in a warm and accepting environment. What if we were to say that a person can find a forum that is based upon Islamic values and offers this comfort space they've been seeking, can we not believe that more Muslims will become frequent visitors and soon wish to participate in Islamic discussions and knowledge? Will it not be a great way to spread the dawah of Islam? I am sure every sincere Muslims would love to see this happen. However, the dilemma settles itself in the actions of few members who come to “ruin the fun” as many people like to say. They like to depose their true identity in a symbolic nick, and then hide behind it while causing confusion, hatred, and enmity between the members. Actually, the latest fashion calls to bashing the head admin of a forum if not criticizing him personally. This is undoubtedly the acts of the ignorant and unmannered individuals who by no chance can accept peaceful relations or yield to their mission of disrupting the tranquil/beneficial flow of a forum. This behavior and outlook must change or our measure of time on the Internet will become valueless and for the post part, a time misused. The question we should now ask ourselves is: What is the solution?

First: Sincerity in actions. Look around you brothers and sisters. Islam is deteriorating outside, knowledge is being abused, and people are lost. Some have taken their homes as bunkers and even more, have committed themselves to shielding their faith with knowledge and spreading authentic dawah. They’ve found forum the perfect place to gain that reward. Before we enter a forum, we should think “ISLAM”, we should think “IMAN”, we should think about these issues and know that nothing brings us here except that we wish to either bring victory to Islam, Increase our faith, or both.

Secondly: The moment you enter a forum, you are a representative of Islam. Your threads, posts, and words are read by tens, hundreds, and thousands of people. Many people have caused fitnah through these means and allowed others to follow on this path. The sad thing is, threads and posts usually become archives and follow the members where they might go. This concludes us to say that members must remain in the best behavior at all times (Allah is watching at all times), if this is not possible then one must at least opt to silence. This way, you don’t harm a member nor will you be harmed Inshaa Allah.


Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens our reward in this world and forbids us from having it in the hereafter. Whenever in doubt, remember Allah.

Fourthly: Stay away from gender relations. Any place we find men and women, we will also find the shaytan in his best disguise. Beware and be smart. What will a member truly gain if he is involved in false impressions and pleasing the other members except a spoilt intention and loss of reward? Be nice to everyone, advise your brothers and sisters, and speak kindly. However, don’t let the heart get tangled in the deceitful impressions of the shaytan especially with the opposite sex.

Fifthly: Find your role in a forum and stick to it. Every member should find his/her role in the forum they regularly or occasionaly visit. If a member comes to learn then let him/her commit to learning and stay away from all distractions, which means if you see a thread that shows no importance to your agenda then don't open the thread at all. The one posting about subjects of knowledge should not involve him/herself in pointless debates and arguements, which ruins the primary motivation to continue posting. The one who is quick to find good websites/audio/video should be sharing their files and documents with people. If another person is good at advising then he/she should take notice and advise the admins/members/guest and so one especially the ones that look for it. Basically, everyone should reside in their roles in a forum atmosphere rather than bounce around from one to another. I say this because the shaytan comes between a man and his heart and convinces him/her that he/she is being mistreated, misunderstood, or generally an ineffective contributor. You must Ignore these thoughts and remember your purpose and remember your role. If everyone contributes a little to their role the we have a great and strong team of Muslims!

Sixthly: Finished from the forum? Once you have finished browsing the net for information, checking your emails, and talking to your friends online then it's time to turn off your pc. Try to get back to "real" life and remembering Allah. The computer is only a mean to gain reward and not a goal. It is a way just like other great ways to fulfill diffferent aspects of Islam but honoring parents, keeping ties of kinship, supporting one’s wife, memorizing Quran, helping friends, etc. are usually acts that must be fulfilled from the outskirts of the computer's boundary. It is always best to manage your time and make a list of priorities.

Most importantly: Duaa! Supplication!

A forum, in particular the Islamic ones, should acknowledge this system and truly rest their desires and find it in themselves the spirit to work together with fellow members in order to create the best Islamic forums possible. We are well informed that that term perfect is impossible yet that does not stop us from trying. Brothers and sisters, there has to come a time where we take things seriously and place the benefit of this ummah before ours. Islam is our life and Islam must be found everywhere.

If we cannot follow this practical Islamic system then forums should not be up in the first place. If the harm outweighs the good then we avoid it all together. There comes a time when every Muslim must make his/her own decision and the time is now.


Let's work to make our time on the net...ISLAMIC.


Allah Knows Best.

Brother Living
Admin, www.uponsunnah.com
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sapphire
11-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Subhanallah...brother you are a person who speaks with great wisdom...alhamdulillah..that was suchhhhhh a good post...inshallah may we all act upon it now..ameen...
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WHITEMUSK
11-15-2005, 10:31 PM
jazakallah for that brother. You just helped me sprtually clense my heart and mind and now i understand what a forum is and is supposed to be.

words of wisdom definately!

May Allah give us all the taufik to act upon is, Ameen.

walaykum sal3m.
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Muhammad
11-16-2005, 12:21 AM
:sl:

Masha'Allaah excellent advice, this is a MUST read for all members of this forum! I will quote one part amongst all the other important parts:

Originally Posted by Far7an
Secondly: The moment you enter a forum, you are a representative of Islam. Your threads, posts, and words are read by tens, hundreds, and thousands of people. Many people have caused fitnah through these means and allowed others to follow on this path. The sad thing is, threads and posts usually become archives and follow the members where they might go. This concludes us to say that members must remain in the best behavior at all times (Allah is watching at all times), if this is not possible then one must at least opt to silence. This way, you don’t harm a member nor will you be harmed Inshaa Allah.
:w:
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*charisma*
11-16-2005, 12:24 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

Jazak allah ekhi, great post indeed. May we all benefit from it Inshallah.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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Ra`eesah
11-16-2005, 12:28 AM
Assalamu'Alaykum

The part that inspired me the most was

Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens our reward in this world and forbids us from having it in the hereafter. Whenever in doubt, remember Allah.
may Allah reward brother living from uponsunnah forums for taking the time out to write this.

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Brother_Mujahid
11-16-2005, 12:34 AM
can i suggest that the title be changed and make the thread a sticky for the benefit of all members and so the post does not get buried under old threads.

change the title to something like hmm lemme think...... forum considerations? *shrug*

make sure you make it a sticky

wasalam :coolious:
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Umm Yoosuf
11-16-2005, 12:34 AM
Jazakallahu Kahyr Brother for sharing the post with us. Insha Allah it has given me a clear piture of what i should be doing in this fourm and other forums alike.

This quote really got me thinking subhanallah....

Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens
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Khayal
11-16-2005, 12:38 AM
:sl:
MashaAllah, the whole post is an excellent sharing,
jazak ALLAH khair. :rose:

:w:
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Ra`eesah
11-16-2005, 12:39 AM
Assalamu'Alaykum

The tread has been stuck...as for the the title of the thread, that is the original title as written by the author LivingunderthemecryofAllah,the admin of UponSunnah forums.
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*charisma*
11-16-2005, 12:40 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

yea i totally agree with bro mujahid, make it a sticky :)

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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Brother_Mujahid
11-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by 3washey
Assalamu'Alaykum

The tread has been stuck...as for the the title of the thread, that is the original title as written by the author LivingunderthemecryofAllah,the admin of UponSunnah forums.
nice, but this is LI and not UponSunnah therefore changing of the title of the thread will not affect what is written by the original author.
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Snowflake
12-13-2005, 11:49 AM
JazakAllah khair bro. I gotto say that I don't last on forums for more than one day, but here I am again & again lol. It's certainly the best one I've seen.
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Pk_#2
12-21-2005, 06:34 PM
salaamz
great post

w/salaamz
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Arwa
12-22-2005, 03:04 PM
:sl:


Nice post.

To add to that:

Good mods.
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sapphire
12-22-2005, 09:21 PM
wa iyyak.....yes they are easy to spot........u have a great day to...
and bak on to topic...errmmmm what is the topic oh yeah......its a very friendly forum.......great forum...best i have been on and joint.........
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Z
01-27-2006, 06:09 PM
Salaam.

You know what the perfect board will be, a mixture of this board and Gawaher. Seriously, that would be perfect.
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abs
02-05-2006, 09:34 PM
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Assalamu’ alaykum wa rahmatu allahi wa barakatuh…

I feel compelled to ask this question: What does a “perfect” forum consist of?

To me, a “perfect” forum is undeniably an Islamically operated one. I don’t mean a forum that enriches its image with the implication of being Islamic -not at all - but I truly mean a forum that regulates, enforces, and most importantly teaches the values of the Quran and Sunnah. Now, you might ask me, how is this possible?

First of all, it’s a two way street, which demands a broad understanding and compassion from the people in charge as well as the registered members of a forum. On the other hand, most members join forums either because they find their friends mingling in a particular chat arena or because they want to escape the reality of accomplishment by indulging in insignificant chat, which allows them to fill any missing insecurities they have in their personalities. It is sad to say that we find minimal amount of members espousing the agenda to make forums an interactively educational and faithful experience. An Islamic promoted forum could provide a foreground in beneficial reminderss to the many youth that spend long hours surfing the net after landing upon illicit sites. Islamic forums should advertise the Islamic arena and situate itself amongst others so that the youth could be directly linked to safe grounds. Inside, they can be reminded and enlightened with the authentic teaching of Islam. Allah says, “And continue to remind, for surely the reminder profits the believers” (51:55) It is well worth it to say that one could read a verse, a hadith, or a thread and then undergoes a spiritual transformation by the will of Allah, and his/her embraces the signs of Allah. Yet, we are unaware of this. We continue with our idle chats and argue with utter disregard to first-time visitors or new members, who by the way will act upon first impression. Little do we know that many of the guests and members escape the scope of the Internet forums since their first insight into them are a horrific one. They soon are convinced to the vulgarity of some Muslims, and are repulsed by immature acts. This very incident, which happens regularly, detracts from the purpose of establishing forums.

Can we deny that we sometimes go to forums in hopes of relaxing? No, we cannot. This is a natural and innate feeling that a person wishes to comfort her/himself in a warm and accepting environment. What if we were to say that a person can find a forum that is based upon Islamic values and offers this comfort space they've been seeking, can we not believe that more Muslims will become frequent visitors and soon wish to participate in Islamic discussions and knowledge? Will it not be a great way to spread the dawah of Islam? I am sure every sincere Muslims would love to see this happen. However, the dilemma settles itself in the actions of few members who come to “ruin the fun” as many people like to say. They like to depose their true identity in a symbolic nick, and then hide behind it while causing confusion, hatred, and enmity between the members. Actually, the latest fashion calls to bashing the head admin of a forum if not criticizing him personally. This is undoubtedly the acts of the ignorant and unmannered individuals who by no chance can accept peaceful relations or yield to their mission of disrupting the tranquil/beneficial flow of a forum. This behavior and outlook must change or our measure of time on the Internet will become valueless and for the post part, a time misused. The question we should now ask ourselves is: What is the solution?

First: Sincerity in actions. Look around you brothers and sisters. Islam is deteriorating outside, knowledge is being abused, and people are lost. Some have taken their homes as bunkers and even more, have committed themselves to shielding their faith with knowledge and spreading authentic dawah. They’ve found forum the perfect place to gain that reward. Before we enter a forum, we should think “ISLAM”, we should think “IMAN”, we should think about these issues and know that nothing brings us here except that we wish to either bring victory to Islam, Increase our faith, or both.

Secondly: The moment you enter a forum, you are a representative of Islam. Your threads, posts, and words are read by tens, hundreds, and thousands of people. Many people have caused fitnah through these means and allowed others to follow on this path. The sad thing is, threads and posts usually become archives and follow the members where they might go. This concludes us to say that members must remain in the best behavior at all times (Allah is watching at all times), if this is not possible then one must at least opt to silence. This way, you don’t harm a member nor will you be harmed Inshaa Allah.


Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens our reward in this world and forbids us from having it in the hereafter. Whenever in doubt, remember Allah.

Fourthly: Stay away from gender relations. Any place we find men and women, we will also find the shaytan in his best disguise. Beware and be smart. What will a member truly gain if he is involved in false impressions and pleasing the other members except a spoilt intention and loss of reward? Be nice to everyone, advise your brothers and sisters, and speak kindly. However, don’t let the heart get tangled in the deceitful impressions of the shaytan especially with the opposite sex.

Fifthly: Find your role in a forum and stick to it. Every member should find his/her role in the forum they regularly or occasionaly visit. If a member comes to learn then let him/her commit to learning and stay away from all distractions, which means if you see a thread that shows no importance to your agenda then don't open the thread at all. The one posting about subjects of knowledge should not involve him/herself in pointless debates and arguements, which ruins the primary motivation to continue posting. The one who is quick to find good websites/audio/video should be sharing their files and documents with people. If another person is good at advising then he/she should take notice and advise the admins/members/guest and so one especially the ones that look for it. Basically, everyone should reside in their roles in a forum atmosphere rather than bounce around from one to another. I say this because the shaytan comes between a man and his heart and convinces him/her that he/she is being mistreated, misunderstood, or generally an ineffective contributor. You must Ignore these thoughts and remember your purpose and remember your role. If everyone contributes a little to their role the we have a great and strong team of Muslims!

Sixthly: Finished from the forum? Once you have finished browsing the net for information, checking your emails, and talking to your friends online then it's time to turn off your pc. Try to get back to "real" life and remembering Allah. The computer is only a mean to gain reward and not a goal. It is a way just like other great ways to fulfill diffferent aspects of Islam but honoring parents, keeping ties of kinship, supporting one’s wife, memorizing Quran, helping friends, etc. are usually acts that must be fulfilled from the outskirts of the computer's boundary. It is always best to manage your time and make a list of priorities.

Most importantly: Duaa! Supplication!

A forum, in particular the Islamic ones, should acknowledge this system and truly rest their desires and find it in themselves the spirit to work together with fellow members in order to create the best Islamic forums possible. We are well informed that that term perfect is impossible yet that does not stop us from trying. Brothers and sisters, there has to come a time where we take things seriously and place the benefit of this ummah before ours. Islam is our life and Islam must be found everywhere.

If we cannot follow this practical Islamic system then forums should not be up in the first place. If the harm outweighs the good then we avoid it all together. There comes a time when every Muslim must make his/her own decision and the time is now.


Let's work to make our time on the net...ISLAMIC.


Allah Knows Best.

Brother Living
Admin, www.uponsunnah.com
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Sweet_Boy
05-29-2006, 09:30 PM
i would say this is the best and most perfect forum ( mashallah ) as many forums today are like Rude and pornographic and also other useless stuff here we learn each day and this forum has many many members so its always alive ...
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Woodrow
05-29-2006, 09:40 PM
Perfection, is by definition unattainable.
However, the quest for perfection is a very feasable conquest and the closest we can come to perfection. I believe this forum is engaged in it and that the members all have the persaverence and knowledge to continue with that quest.

therefore, this forum is achieving the steps towards perfection.
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srh_rehman
05-31-2006, 05:57 PM
:sl:

nice post and very intresting :thankyou:

:w: :)
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seek.learn
05-31-2006, 06:14 PM
Salaam o alaikum,

MashaAllah. Great advice.
JazakAllah for the post.

May Allah guide us all and forgive us. Aameen.

Alaikum Salaam
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islamrules
06-01-2006, 06:17 PM
mashaAllah

that's a great post, bro
full of wisdom and advice which we can only follow !!!

may allah reward u for your good intentions
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REPSTER
06-17-2006, 04:14 PM
:sl:

SubhanAllaah akhee, u speak with great wisdom and depth MashaAllaah.
May Allaah swt reward u for it.
that was a really good read

:w:
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Najiullah
08-09-2006, 04:32 AM
MashaAllah excellent sharing, jazakALLAH
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[HFZ]Adil
10-11-2006, 03:17 PM
jazakallah
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Khayal
10-16-2006, 04:48 AM
:sl:

Jazaak ALLAH khayr brother, a beneficial read....:rose:

:w:


.
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xx-Asha!!-xx
03-16-2007, 05:05 PM
forums are for havn fun...yeh u talk bout all da serious stuff but uv gots 2 chill out a bit o ppl get bored n dat!!! but yeh interstn post : D
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shible
04-10-2007, 08:09 AM
:sl:

Well i never thought i would be back through a reply.

Words of Wisdom Bro.

Indeed Delivering better information is what it makes more people join LI


Yet i am still searching for words to express the thoughts about this thread and still i am unable to find them

anyway a real good post and a real good acknowledgment.


:w:
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meriam
07-19-2007, 09:54 PM
mashaallah really great
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Re.TiReD
09-08-2007, 02:38 PM
:salamext:

My version of a perfect forum---> Brothers and sisters striving to promote and learn the deen of Allah, getting RID of the fitnah rather than being involved in it. No inter-gender chatting and STRICT moderating of the PM's. The Muslim members of any forum must be protected from such fitnah.
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Abu Muslim
03-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by ...54M4K4H...
:salamext:

My version of a perfect forum---> Brothers and sisters striving to promote and learn the deen of Allah, getting RID of the fitnah rather than being involved in it. No inter-gender chatting and STRICT moderating of the PM's. The Muslim members of any forum must be protected from such fitnah.

wa3laykum salaam wa ra7matullahi wa barakatuh

What you mean like...dhikrullah forums?

http://www.dhikrullah.com/forum

*outta*
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usaith
05-18-2008, 11:09 AM
Jaza Kallah My Brothers For Sharing Your Thoughts
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05-24-2008, 07:37 PM
:salamext:

This thread needs to be bumped.
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05-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by ...54M4K4H...
:salamext:

My version of a perfect forum---> Brothers and sisters striving to promote and learn the deen of Allah, getting RID of the fitnah rather than being involved in it. No inter-gender chatting and STRICT moderating of the PM's. The Muslim members of any forum must be protected from such fitnah.
:wasalamex

Yup.
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faizan786
09-03-2008, 11:25 PM
Assalam alaikum,
Jazakallah, this is a very nice and informative post. :)
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piXie
12-07-2008, 03:27 PM
:bump:

:sl: This thread should be the First thing we see when we log into a forum. Its a very good reminder. :smile: One of the best and most beneficial posts I've ever read masha'Allaah. The brother hasn't left anything out!
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Tony
12-07-2008, 06:00 PM
Humbling and direct. Excellent thread not just for posting in here but elsewhere also. Particularly struck by point 5 (fifthly), agree should be on opening page of forum. Peace brother
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BintAbee
05-09-2009, 02:43 PM
:sl:

Subhanallah... good reminder

:w:
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Hayaa
06-28-2009, 04:08 AM
This is one of the best posts I've read. It was really wonderful and a definite eye-opener. Jazakallah Khair.
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Eric H
06-28-2009, 05:37 AM
Greetings and peace be with you all,

After four years at LI, I have finally read this thread today, and have to say that the intentions are good and transparent, and you can’t ask for more than that. The mods do a good job keeping the forum respectful and fair, and I do appreciate this, being a Christian on an Islamic forum

LI has also given me hope that Muslims, Christians and others can work towards a greater peaceful understanding and friendship, and I am very thankful to you all.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
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Najm
06-28-2009, 11:55 AM
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

SubhaanAllah!!! This should be a sticky.

Its brilliant, simple and a great reminder for everyone!

FiAmaaniAllah
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Ramadhan
08-17-2009, 03:19 PM
I have been a member for a few months now and I wished I had read this thread right then, because the rules written in the first post are soo good! Masya Allah!
It will be of great benefits if all new members read it first right after they become a member.
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velvetsky
09-26-2009, 01:34 AM
Hi everyone :) I'm a new member and I just read this. I have a question about the following:

It's from point 5
The one posting about subjects of knowledge should not involve him/herself in pointless debates and arguements, which ruins the primary motivation to continue posting.
Are you implying that we shouldn't ask questions or argue regarding the faith or why certain things in Islam allowed/not allowed? I'm a little confused...
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Vigno
08-08-2010, 04:23 PM
Asalamu Alekum

I suppose that represents annoying questions or comments brought forward causing the users to get repelled away from that particular thread.
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Sawdah
08-08-2010, 04:41 PM
^ JazakAllah Khair for the bump.

Great post, I really liked it. JazakAllah Khair.

:w:
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Tilmeez
04-11-2011, 05:40 PM
That's what we are struggling to achieve, Inshallah.


Originally Posted by Far7an
A Perfect forum written by brother 'LivingUnderMercy'.

Assalamu’ alaykum wa rahmatu allahi wa barakatuh…

I feel compelled to ask this question: What does a “perfect” forum consist of?

To me, a “perfect” forum is undeniably an Islamically operated one. I don’t mean a forum that enriches its image with the implication of being Islamic -not at all - but I truly mean a forum that regulates, enforces, and most importantly teaches the values of the Quran and Sunnah. Now, you might ask me, how is this possible?

First of all, it’s a two way street, which demands a broad understanding and compassion from the people in charge as well as the registered members of a forum. On the other hand, most members join forums either because they find their friends mingling in a particular chat arena or because they want to escape the reality of accomplishment by indulging in insignificant chat, which allows them to fill any missing insecurities they have in their personalities. It is sad to say that we find minimal amount of members espousing the agenda to make forums an interactively educational and faithful experience. An Islamic promoted forum could provide a foreground in beneficial reminderss to the many youth that spend long hours surfing the net after landing upon illicit sites. Islamic forums should advertise the Islamic arena and situate itself amongst others so that the youth could be directly linked to safe grounds. Inside, they can be reminded and enlightened with the authentic teaching of Islam. Allah says, “And continue to remind, for surely the reminder profits the believers” (51:55) It is well worth it to say that one could read a verse, a hadith, or a thread and then undergoes a spiritual transformation by the will of Allah, and his/her embraces the signs of Allah. Yet, we are unaware of this. We continue with our idle chats and argue with utter disregard to first-time visitors or new members, who by the way will act upon first impression. Little do we know that many of the guests and members escape the scope of the Internet forums since their first insight into them are a horrific one. They soon are convinced to the vulgarity of some Muslims, and are repulsed by immature acts. This very incident, which happens regularly, detracts from the purpose of establishing forums.

Can we deny that we sometimes go to forums in hopes of relaxing? No, we cannot. This is a natural and innate feeling that a person wishes to comfort her/himself in a warm and accepting environment. What if we were to say that a person can find a forum that is based upon Islamic values and offers this comfort space they've been seeking, can we not believe that more Muslims will become frequent visitors and soon wish to participate in Islamic discussions and knowledge? Will it not be a great way to spread the dawah of Islam? I am sure every sincere Muslims would love to see this happen. However, the dilemma settles itself in the actions of few members who come to “ruin the fun” as many people like to say. They like to depose their true identity in a symbolic nick, and then hide behind it while causing confusion, hatred, and enmity between the members. Actually, the latest fashion calls to bashing the head admin of a forum if not criticizing him personally. This is undoubtedly the acts of the ignorant and unmannered individuals who by no chance can accept peaceful relations or yield to their mission of disrupting the tranquil/beneficial flow of a forum. This behavior and outlook must change or our measure of time on the Internet will become valueless and for the post part, a time misused. The question we should now ask ourselves is: What is the solution?

First: Sincerity in actions. Look around you brothers and sisters. Islam is deteriorating outside, knowledge is being abused, and people are lost. Some have taken their homes as bunkers and even more, have committed themselves to shielding their faith with knowledge and spreading authentic dawah. They’ve found forum the perfect place to gain that reward. Before we enter a forum, we should think “ISLAM”, we should think “IMAN”, we should think about these issues and know that nothing brings us here except that we wish to either bring victory to Islam, Increase our faith, or both.

Secondly: The moment you enter a forum, you are a representative of Islam. Your threads, posts, and words are read by tens, hundreds, and thousands of people. Many people have caused fitnah through these means and allowed others to follow on this path. The sad thing is, threads and posts usually become archives and follow the members where they might go. This concludes us to say that members must remain in the best behavior at all times (Allah is watching at all times), if this is not possible then one must at least opt to silence. This way, you don’t harm a member nor will you be harmed Inshaa Allah.


Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens our reward in this world and forbids us from having it in the hereafter. Whenever in doubt, remember Allah.

Fourthly: Stay away from gender relations. Any place we find men and women, we will also find the shaytan in his best disguise. Beware and be smart. What will a member truly gain if he is involved in false impressions and pleasing the other members except a spoilt intention and loss of reward? Be nice to everyone, advise your brothers and sisters, and speak kindly. However, don’t let the heart get tangled in the deceitful impressions of the shaytan especially with the opposite sex.

Fifthly: Find your role in a forum and stick to it. Every member should find his/her role in the forum they regularly or occasionaly visit. If a member comes to learn then let him/her commit to learning and stay away from all distractions, which means if you see a thread that shows no importance to your agenda then don't open the thread at all. The one posting about subjects of knowledge should not involve him/herself in pointless debates and arguements, which ruins the primary motivation to continue posting. The one who is quick to find good websites/audio/video should be sharing their files and documents with people. If another person is good at advising then he/she should take notice and advise the admins/members/guest and so one especially the ones that look for it. Basically, everyone should reside in their roles in a forum atmosphere rather than bounce around from one to another. I say this because the shaytan comes between a man and his heart and convinces him/her that he/she is being mistreated, misunderstood, or generally an ineffective contributor. You must Ignore these thoughts and remember your purpose and remember your role. If everyone contributes a little to their role the we have a great and strong team of Muslims!

Sixthly: Finished from the forum? Once you have finished browsing the net for information, checking your emails, and talking to your friends online then it's time to turn off your pc. Try to get back to "real" life and remembering Allah. The computer is only a mean to gain reward and not a goal. It is a way just like other great ways to fulfill diffferent aspects of Islam but honoring parents, keeping ties of kinship, supporting one’s wife, memorizing Quran, helping friends, etc. are usually acts that must be fulfilled from the outskirts of the computer's boundary. It is always best to manage your time and make a list of priorities.

Most importantly: Duaa! Supplication!

A forum, in particular the Islamic ones, should acknowledge this system and truly rest their desires and find it in themselves the spirit to work together with fellow members in order to create the best Islamic forums possible. We are well informed that that term perfect is impossible yet that does not stop us from trying. Brothers and sisters, there has to come a time where we take things seriously and place the benefit of this ummah before ours. Islam is our life and Islam must be found everywhere.

If we cannot follow this practical Islamic system then forums should not be up in the first place. If the harm outweighs the good then we avoid it all together. There comes a time when every Muslim must make his/her own decision and the time is now.


Let's work to make our time on the net...ISLAMIC.


Allah Knows Best.

Brother Living
Admin, www.uponsunnah.com
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Hamza Asadullah
04-13-2011, 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Tilmeez
That's what we are struggling to achieve, Inshallah.
Asalaamu Alaikum, jazakallahu khayran for the wonderful and very relevant article which we should all read every now and thenjust to remind ourselves of why we use these forums in the first place. One part of the article which is very relevant is:

We continue with our idle chats and argue with utter disregard to first-time visitors or new members, who by the way will act upon first impression. Little do we know that many of the guests and members escape the scope of the Internet forums since their first insight into them are a horrific one. They soon are convinced to the vulgarity of some Muslims, and are repulsed by immature acts. This very incident, which happens regularly, detracts from the purpose of establishing forums.

So let us remind ourselves of our purpose here and that we are here solely for the pleasure of Allah so that we may remind one another, learn, share and invite others towards the truth and straight path. We must not partake in useless and idle chat or in threads which do not benefit us and we must conduct ourselves in the best way possible and also be very selective which threads awe take part in.

We should think to ourselves will taking part in this thread benefit me or anyone else or am i just going to lose my cool and use anger and emotion rather than wisdom and knowledge which only shows a weak argument. So let us post here solely for the intention of pleasing Allah using Islamic principles, morals and values and not using our emotions or desires where we will let shaythan partake in our posts.
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AslamP
04-18-2011, 05:55 PM
You said it really well; i joined this forum to learn and teach what little wisdom I have, You are right, let's make this forum useful and a wonderful experience in learning healthy things. Thanks!
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~ Sabr ~
05-16-2012, 12:21 PM
:bump:
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BadOlPuttyTat
05-19-2012, 08:12 AM
A forum without those stinking mods and dumb administrators :p. That was for you IB staff! ;D
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Anybody
05-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash
A forum without those stinking mods and dumb administrators
Isn't there a rule against insulting the mods?
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sofiap
06-26-2012, 12:23 PM
what is a perfect forum all of above an understanding admins..we are all users...
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Muhaba
06-26-2012, 12:26 PM
it is a forum that is perfect. LLLLOL
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sofiap
06-26-2012, 12:45 PM
i only have few complaints.lol..just noting on how well the site itself can re address certain rules,which shouldn't effect the usage of ones account...i have 14 notifications..i can not even display.or touch my profile...these two things do not come into anyone taking advantage of the site,there are ways the problem of anyone taking advantage of a site can tackled better.. reminds me of school.when others used to do wrong,but the whole class you to suffer for it...lol...people will leave not because it isnt informative but because of the rules on awaiting to use an account and not as someone said because they want to cause problems....i see issues i talk about them,and try to solve them,or to look at them from the different angles and see what we have missed in the growth..apart from Allaah nothing can claim perfection...dot want to take away the goodness of wht the brother has shared ..so im leaving it here In sha Allaah
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iRock
02-14-2013, 02:18 PM
This is a really great topic :p
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greenhill
05-05-2013, 11:33 AM
Isn't it great?

I like reading and researching when the mood takes me or when curiousity strikes. I search the web, read books, and at times end up in forums in my quest for answers. I remember chancing across one where not a few minutes I was on, a small window popped up asking me to join, it says they know of my presence and that they consider me like a stalker looking at their site without declaring myself there, I suppose.. Admittedly it was a good site, and I was tempted to sign up but that initial impression made me leave.

I signed up here instead.

;D
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The-Deist
01-10-2015, 10:40 PM
May our forum be as close to perfect as possible
Aameen
and great post Akhi!!
MashaAllah TabarakaAllah
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colinberry1
05-14-2015, 03:29 PM
Well it all depends on the individual, just like a family, some children cause a lot of arguments, some parents are too strict and some are too easy, but at the end of the day everyone benefits from the communication, to me that is the perfect forum.

But Forums today are manage by moderators, it is like having a policemen in your home trying to keep an eye on things and keep everyone in there place, I do understand how chaotic forums can be, but that is the fun in family life, having to work things out together and knowing who is the idiot in the family and who not to bother to get any advice from.

I have been on the Internet since it first started, I must say the forum I enjoyed the most in its early years was Sarawak talk, linked to Malaysia net. it was mad, but the reality is a lot of families are mad, that's what makes it natural.

I feel that the Internet and its forums now are control by government, to keep the people in their place, and to prevent them from ever being able to communicate with each other under all conditions.
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Asiyah3
02-03-2016, 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Far7an
Before we enter a forum, we should think “ISLAM”, we should think “IMAN”, we should think about these issues and know that nothing brings us here except that we wish to either bring victory to Islam, Increase our faith, or both.

The moment you enter a forum, you are a representative of Islam. Your threads, posts, and words are read by tens, hundreds, and thousands of people.

This concludes us to say that members must remain in the best behavior at all times (Allah is watching at all times), if this is not possible then one must at least opt to silence. This way, you don’t harm a member nor will you be harmed Inshaa Allah.

Thirdly: Taking advantage of your time. Let the forum be a place you can learn in or help others learn. Post beneficial threads in the appropriate sections and read the ones that can better help in your pursuit of knowledge. Never let the members be your goal or the reputation points but let the goal end with the pleasure of Allah. Keep in mind that Allah might bless the 5 memebers/guests that view your post and He might allow them to benefit from it while he deprives others members who get 1000 views. The objective lies in posting and spreading the knowledge and not how many people read it. Post what you have and don’t look back; just picture your reward in paradise. Forums are by no chance a place of popularity and should not be either. We, as Muslims, worry that Allah hastens our reward in this world and forbids us from having it in the hereafter. Whenever in doubt, remember Allah.

Fifthly: Find your role in a forum and stick to it. Every member should find his/her role in the forum they regularly or occasionaly visit. If a member comes to learn then let him/her commit to learning and stay away from all distractions, which means if you see a thread that shows no importance to your agenda then don't open the thread at all. The one posting about subjects of knowledge should not involve him/herself in pointless debates and arguements, which ruins the primary motivation to continue posting. The one who is quick to find good websites/audio/video should be sharing their files and documents with people. If another person is good at advising then he/she should take notice and advise the admins/members/guest and so one especially the ones that look for it. Basically, everyone should reside in their roles in a forum atmosphere rather than bounce around from one to another. I say this because the shaytan comes between a man and his heart and convinces him/her that he/she is being mistreated, misunderstood, or generally an ineffective contributor. You must Ignore these thoughts and remember your purpose and remember your role. If everyone contributes a little to their role the we have a great and strong team of Muslims!

Sixthly: Finished from the forum? Once you have finished browsing the net for information, checking your emails, and talking to your friends online then it's time to turn off your pc. Try to get back to "real" life and remembering Allah. The computer is only a mean to gain reward and not a goal. It is a way just like other great ways to fulfill diffferent aspects of Islam but honoring parents, keeping ties of kinship, supporting one’s wife, memorizing Quran, helping friends, etc. are usually acts that must be fulfilled from the outskirts of the computer's boundary. It is always best to manage your time and make a list of priorities.

Most importantly: Duaa! Supplication!
Awesome text. This is so important for us to benefit more from the forum.
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abumuslim82
04-29-2016, 08:20 AM
[QUOTE=Far7an;111251]A Perfect forum written by brother 'LivingUnderMercy'.

Assalamu’ alaykum wa rahmatu allahi wa barakatuh…



wslm bro

perfection we'll find in jannah inshaALLAH,

no perfect forums on the net, infested with munafiqeen and kuffaar spies
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ammargroup
02-15-2018, 10:45 AM
​GooD
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1claire
02-26-2019, 12:46 AM
These are the things that we should keep in mind in order to keep this forum friendly for everyone.
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