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DaSangarTalib
12-14-2005, 12:52 PM
The scientists of astronomy state that the speed of planet Mars has been
decreasing in its course toward the eastern direction in the few past
weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east
and the west and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement
stopped going toward the eastern direction. Then in the months of
August and September...Mars changed its course in the opposite
direction to the West- and that until the end of September which
means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!! And this weird
phenomenon of the opposite movement is called "Retrograde Motion".

Most scientists state that all the planets will go through the same,
once at least and our planet Earth is one of them. Planet Earth will
move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from
the west!! This might occur soon and we are unaware!

Our beloved messenger (SAW) said: "One of the signs of the hour the
sun will rise from the west, when no longer tauba (forgiveness) will
be granted" And the strange thing most of our Shariah scholars
mentioned that the rise of the sun from the west occurs only once on
that day the sun will rise from the west then again from the east
and continues until Allah wish and this is similar to what is
happening to Mars it stops, then it changes its course of direction
for a short period of time then returns to way once it was.

Abu Hurayra (RAA) narrated that the messenger of Allah (SAW) said:"
The day of the hour will not come until the sun rises from the west,
if it rises and the people saw it they will all believe, when a time
where nothing will be accepted anymore of believe the truth" [Abu
Bukhari, Muslim) and from Abu Hurayra (RAA) that the messenger (SAW
said: "Start with the six actions (he mentioned) the sun rising from
the west) [Muslim] And Abdullah Bin Amro (RAA) said: (I memorized
from the messenger (SAW) a hadith I will never forget I heard the
messenger of Allah (SAW) says: The first aya to come the rise of the
sun from the west) Ahmad] And the messenger ASWA "Allah (SWT) place
his hand at night to forgive his morning sinners, and places in the
morning to forgive his night sinners until the sun rises from the
west" [Muslim] This important piece of news is very important and
with grate sign of warning of remembrance...for through it the doors
of Dawah whether for Muslims, the unwary of us or the kufar. When we
show this hadith that was told 1400 years ago about this miracle you
will see a lot will enter this beautiful religion...And the Muslims
if they see this phenomena happening in Mars who knows maybe this is
the beginning of what will happen to our planet soon? After reading
the above article, i searched on yahoo for "Retrograde Motion" and
found many articles about this, below are couple of sites that try
to explain or should I say verify what Allah has told us.


>>>http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/projects/data/Retrograde/
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mehnaz
12-14-2005, 01:10 PM
Salaam...

got that as an email jus today...SubhanAllah..nice one...

JazakAllah for sharing..!!

W'salaam
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MetSudaisTwice
12-14-2005, 01:26 PM
salam
subhanallah
jazakallah for sharing bro
wasalam
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brotherhood
12-14-2005, 01:32 PM
may Allah forgive our sins :( ameen
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
12-14-2005, 01:36 PM
:sl:

Thread Moved.

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Sahabiyaat
12-14-2005, 02:03 PM
this is why we shud always ask for forgiveness throughout the day and before going to sleep ponder on our deeds.
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MetSudaisTwice
12-14-2005, 02:06 PM
salam
trues sis, we should always remeber and fear allah every second of the day and always ask for forgiveness
wasalam
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Sanobar
12-14-2005, 02:09 PM
salam!
jazakAllah for sharing that with us bro...may Allah frogive our sins..
reading abt the signs of judgement just gets me all sweaty and creepy!:(
ma'salamah
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Ameeratul Layl
12-14-2005, 02:10 PM
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hmmm..brother Badmash which scientist(s) made those statements and where did you get the information from?

Allah ma3ak
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DaSangarTalib
12-14-2005, 02:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sanobar
salam!
jazakAllah for sharing that with us bro...may Allah frogive our sins..
ma'salamah
Ameen

reading abt the signs of judgement just gets me all sweaty and creepy!:(
you not the onli 1:phew
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DaSangarTalib
12-14-2005, 02:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ameeratul Layl
:sl:

hmmm..brother Badmash which scientist(s) made those statements and where did you get the information from?

Allah ma3ak

Scientist= dont know

Source= in a Email

why do u think its fake?
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MetSudaisTwice
12-14-2005, 02:14 PM
salam
well the email is not a reliable source of info
wasalam
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Ameeratul Layl
12-14-2005, 02:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~ BaDmA$H ~
Scientist= dont know

Source= in a Email

why do u think its fake?

:sl:
Well, i wouldnt count that reliable enough.
No scientist, no approriate 'scientific' source. Hmmmm.:)

Allah ma3ak
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
12-14-2005, 02:18 PM
:sl:

This is true, ive read it before on the web, not in an email, like in a Islamic site. Its true.

:w:
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jawanazam
12-14-2005, 02:18 PM
SubhanAllah, Thank you bro for reminding us about the signs of the day of judgement. May our sins be forgiven but the Almighty Allah.ameen
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Ameeratul Layl
12-14-2005, 02:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Åhmed
:sl:

This is true, ive read it before on the web, not in an email, like in a Islamic site. Its true.

:w:

:sl:
Yes brother, according to the Quraan it is true. But I want to know which scientist has made the 'scientific' discovery.:)

Allah ma3ak
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DaSangarTalib
12-14-2005, 02:19 PM
Well it might be fake i dont know

Let it be a reminder that judgement day is not 2 far away
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
12-14-2005, 02:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ameeratul Layl
:sl:
Yes brother, according to the Quraan it is true. But I want to know which scientist has made the 'scientific' discovery.:)

Allah ma3ak
:sl:

Does it matter when it has been proven in the Quran already? Ive read this in the news before and i assure you its right information.
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MetSudaisTwice
12-14-2005, 02:25 PM
salam
jazakallah bro ahmed for veryfying the info
wasalam
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Ameeratul Layl
12-14-2005, 02:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Åhmed
:sl:

Does it matter when it has been proven in the Quran already? Ive read this in the news before and i assure you its right information.

:sl:
Well, it does matter bcuz I study science. i like to get in depth with things....who discovered wat?...how did they discover it? Which year was it discovered?and so on.

Its okay...Ill do my own research.:)


I know it has been proven in the Quraan. But I want to see which scientist will/has proven or will show others.Thats all.:)
Allah ma3ak
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Ameeratul Layl
12-14-2005, 02:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice
salam
sis ok, jazakallah for posting but you posted the same reply twice
lol
wasalam

:sl:
That what happens when computers crash. *they call it technology*

Oh and...if no one gets to prove that the sun will rise from the west...then I am thinking of doing that.Maybe Ill be seen as Einstien 2.:)

Allah ma3ak
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cihad
12-15-2005, 03:01 PM
when the disbelievers find this out and realise that it was told to us when Allah revealed his message so long ago -and they still reject Allahs message, then surely they are just stupid!!

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khalid zaheer
12-17-2005, 10:22 AM
:sl:

Never, its impossible.

:w:
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Ansar Al-'Adl
12-17-2005, 11:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by khalid zaheer
:sl:

Never, its impossible.

:w:
:sl: bro,
First of all, to simply give your personal opinion when it contradicts authentic hadith is meaningless, because why should we take your words over the words of our Prophet saws, as recorded in Sahih Bukhari?

Secondly, it is not impossible for the sun to rise from the west, there are a number of ways we could conceive of it occuring, and a number of ways we couldn't. One possible way is if the earth slows down in its rotation and begins to rotate in the opposite direction. Do you have any scientific evidence to support your opinion that this is impossible? If not, then how can you expect us to attach any weight to your words?

:w:
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khalid zaheer
12-20-2005, 07:35 AM
:sl: brother Ansar

Its not my opinion brother, who am I to place my opinion.

Quran said, this universe is created for some specific reason or purpose, what reason only Almighty knows. The sun rising from the east is its nature and nature can never be changed. Brother Osman (understanding-islam) presented a verse from quran, same I am presenting here (his purpose was a little different but it is perfect for this matter too)

So set thy face to the Religion, all-devoted: __ God's original law on which he originated mankind; there can be no change in God's creation; that is the standing Religion __ but most men do not know __(30/30)

:w:
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Ansar Al-'Adl
12-20-2005, 11:50 PM
:sl: bro,
If you interpret the verse in this way then what do you say about the fact that we witness the universe changing all around us? Furthermore, the Qur'an itself mentions signs such as the sky being rent apart etc. Are yuou going to claim that these also do not occurt because it is against their nature? The nautre is whatever Allah swt decrees and He has decreed that the sun will rise from the west towards the end of time. This does not even have to be a miracle, it could be caused by a large body of great gravitational strength passing in close proximity to our solar system, such that it would disturb the orbits.

:w:
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Ghazi
12-21-2005, 08:52 PM
:sl:

We as muslims these tend to over look the judgement which happens daily all overt the world just as today we buried one brother who's Probably been ask the three questions which will determine his fate.
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Protected_Diamond
12-21-2005, 08:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
:sl:

We as muslims these tend to over look the judgement which happens daily all overt the world just as today we buried one brother who's Probably been ask the three questions which will determine his fate.
:sl: warhmatulahi wabarakthu

Sos for going off topic but, brother what is the Agnostic way of life? :confused:

:w: warhmatulahi wabarakthu
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karim
12-21-2005, 09:06 PM
:sl:

jzakallah for sharing :brother: and my allah fogive the haramm things we did ameen.

:w:
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Ghazi
12-21-2005, 09:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Proud ukht
:sl: warhmatulahi wabarakthu

Sos for going off topic but, brother what is the Agnostic way of life? :confused:

:w: warhmatulahi wabarakthu
:sl:

one who believes that the evidence for and against the existence of God is inconclusive. (agnosticism)
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libyanhero
12-21-2005, 09:13 PM
soure: check this out http://www.space.com/spacewatch/0509...etrograde.html
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Halima
12-21-2005, 09:18 PM
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please see the following narration for any further inquiries:


The Prophet (peace be upon him) said one day: “Do you know where the Sun goes when it sets?”

They said: “Allah and His Messenger know best.”

He said: “It goes until it arrives at its place of settlement beneath the Throne. Then it falls down in prostration and remains like that until it is said to it: ‘Arise! Go back from whence you came.’ Then it goes back and rises from its place of rising. Then it goes until it arrives at its place of settlement beneath the Throne. Then it falls down in prostration and remains like that until it is said to it: ‘Arise! Go back from whence you came.’ Then it goes back and rises from its place of rising. Then it goes without people finding anything wrong with it until it arrives at that place of settlement it has beneath the throne. Then it will be told: ‘Arise! Enter upon the morning rising from your setting place’.”

Then Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Do you know when that will be? It will be when ‘its faith will not avail a soul which had not believed before or earned some good from its faith. [Sûrah al-An`âm: 157]’.”
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Ghazi
12-21-2005, 09:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Proud ukht
:sl: warhmatulahi wabarakthu

Sos for going off topic but, brother what is the Agnostic way of life? :confused:

:w: warhmatulahi wabarakthu
Here's a quto i found using google so anything that fits in should be considerd "Agnostic way of life"

A word first used by Professor Huxley, to indicate one who believes nothing which cannot be demonstrated by the senses
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-glos.htm
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khalid zaheer
12-23-2005, 12:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
If you interpret the verse in this way then what do you say about the fact that we witness the universe changing all around us? Furthermore, the Qur'an itself mentions signs such as the sky being rent apart etc.
:sl: brother Ansar

Its not my interpretation, the verse is clear.

Second the universe is not changing all around but going ahead to get its purpose; the conversion of a seed into tree is not changing but a process. Seed travel ahead and ahead and out of sight one day after completing its task, if you think.

Tearness of sky is not the sign of judgement day but the event will be happened that day. And if you think its a part of process (to go ahead) because it will be splited for forever not for a day that after a day it will rebuild like it was.

I think you are much able to understand difference between.

:w:
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TabTabiun
12-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Oh....suphanallah!!!!
Masalaama
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