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If I make take the moment to ask something regarding these scientific miracles stuff.
I've seen many sincere brothers and sisters engaged in Dawah to refer to "the scientific miracles in the Quran and the Sunnah". And even those who claim to follow the Salaf (such as
http://www.allaahuakbar.net) use them in their Dawah, while the interpretations of the verses to get them conform with science often (or almost always) contradict the understanding of the Salaf. One needs only to compare their interpretations with the interpretations stated in Tafsir ibn Kathir to see what I mean. I'll take some examples insha'Allaah:
And indeed We created man out of an extract of clay. Thereafter We made him as a Nutfah in a safe lodging. Then We made the Nutfah into a clot, then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allâh, the Best of creators. - 23:12-14
These verses refer to the creation of man in the womb as are prehaps the most used ones. According to the scientific interpretation, the nutfah is the mix of the male's and the female's discharges, the clot (alaqa) is "something which clings" and then the it states that the bones are created inside the embryo, and then the clothing with flesh refers to that the muscles wrap around the bones. The Mudghah means "chewed lump of flesh" and refers to the somites.
While this interpretation isn't totally wrong, it is far from correct. It is indeed correct that nutfah is the mix of male and female discharge, the interpretation of alaqa is not so. According to what is alluded in Tafsir ibn Kathir, alaqa means "a clot of blood", this was also the answer I got from a brother who knows Arabic. In Tafsir ibn Kathir we are told that alaqa is "a red elongated clot" and that Ikrimah (raa) said regarding it "This is blood". The Mudghah stage isn't described as a "chewed lump" but as a piece of flesh
Regarding the other stages, we are told the following:
then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, meaning, `We gave it shape, with a head, two arms and two legs, with its bones, nerves and veins.'
then We clothed the bones with flesh, meaning, `We gave it something to cover it and strengthen it.'
This can be found here:
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=23&tid=34787
Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? - 21:30
According to the modern interpretation, this refers to the Big Bang. But this is not exactly what a Hadith tells us:
"Sufyan Ath-Thawri narrated from his father from `Ikrimah that Ibn `Abbas was asked; "Did the night come first or the day'' He said, "Do you think that when the heavens and the earth were joined together, there was anything between them except darkness Thus you may know that the night came before the day. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn `Umar said that a man came to him and questioned him about when the heavens and earth were joined together then they were parted. He said, "Go to that old man (Shaykh) and ask him, then come and tell me what he says to you.'' So he went to Ibn `Abbas and asked him. Ibn `Abbas said: "Yes, the heavens were joined together and it did not rain, and the earth was joined together and nothing grew. When living beings were created to populate the earth, rain came forth from the heavens and vegetation came forth from the earth.'' The man went back to Ibn `Umar and told him what had been said. Ibn `Umar said, "Now I know that Ibn `Abbas has been given knowledge of the Qur'an. He has spoken the truth, and this is how it was.'' Ibn `Umar said: "I did not like the daring attitude of Ibn `Abbas in his Tafsir of the Qur'an, but now I know that he has been given knowledge of the Qur'an.'' Sa`id bin Jubayr said: "The heavens and the earth were attached to one another, then when the heavens were raised up, the earth became separate from them, and this is their parting which was mentioned by Allah in His Book.'' Al-Hasan and Qatadah said, "They were joined together, then they were separated by this air.''"
It looks like the verse refers to when the heavens and the earth were already created, not the beginning of the creation. This Hadith is in Tafsir ibn Kathir.
So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body that you may be a sign to those who come after you! And verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Ayât. - 10:92
According to the modernist interpretation, this refers to the mummy of Merneptah, which most likely was the Firawn at the time of Musa (aleyhi salaam). This seems to have no support in the classical Tafsirs. According to ibn Abbas (raa), this verse refers to that Firawn's body was placed on a high place so that Bani Israil could confirm without any doubt that he really died.
Also, the kuffar embryologists claim that these stages pass over in a few days, but according to a well-known Hadith narrated in sahih al-Bukhaari, Sahih Muslim and which are in an-Nawawi's 40 Ahadith collection states that each stage is for 40 days.
And, what would the Western scientists appealed to say about the Hadith about the fly with a disease in one wing and a cure in another?
This is in gist what I want to highlight, there exist more examples of new interpretations. So my questions is, how can Salafis propagate these interpretations and still claim to follow as-Salaf as-Salih? And how can the same people refer to the Tafsirs in some matters while totally ignore them in others?
Since there seems to be people here who follow as-Salaf as-salih, the pure path of Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama'aah, and still argue for the scientific interpretations, I now take the fitting (?) moment to ask how you get it all around.