Salam Alay koom: (Sorry, been busy a while. To those who know me)
If you want to know about the Jinn for real, and not the "Superstitious" concepts that have infiltrated Islam from the “Cultural Backgrounds” of various peoples, then you want to read: “Of Gen/Jin/Gin and Men” by Sheik Abdullah. His website and a very interesting Blog is at www.manwayenterprises
From what I remeber, he has been researching this topic for over thiry years- problem is, people don’t want to listen, even though he cites from Qur’an, History, Language roots, etc.
But I will try to explain it to the best of my personal understanding. I do not deal in “Epiphanies”. I look for hard cold fact.
Jinn/Jinni/Genii etc. are all synonymous (the same) terms in reality, that deal specifically with a race of 'people'.
If you check the dictionary, it will tell you: “Gens: A clan of people from which the Romans descended that based their lineage from a common patriarch.” (Basically, since all dictionaries are slightly different in wording, but same in basic.)
History: Romulus the founder of Rome broke the Curia (senate) of Rome into thirty Gens (The main families that were in charge). The middle name of most Romans was actually the name of the Gens they were a part of (either by birth or by acceptance) such as 'Gaius', 'Aurelius', Estes, etc. (re: MS Encarta)
"Go not unto the ways of the Gentile!" (Matt 10:5) and in all the other passages that biblically allege what Isa Ibn Maryam (the Man Called Jesus the son of Mary) to have said against the Gentiles (as in: Merchantile= of the Merchants, Infantile= of the Infants, and in the roots of this I am typing in Gentiles= of the Gens), HE would not have said: Gentile (who every biblical scholar knows refers to the Romans; into whose hands he was given into) He spoke Aramaic ( Arabic is it's brother languages, as in the languages spoken by Isaaq and Ishmail, basically the same, except for regional differences - like the differences between “truck” and “lorry”, the same english language meaning the same vehicle, but one is in one region and one in another. Which is why Arabic and Aramaic are so close in wording, etc.) He would have said not to go to the Jinn (The order which was violated later by Saul/Paul of course.).
Iblis, whose name was changed later to Satan/Shaitan (one who is Evil) for not following the Order given by Allah/The God to bow down to Adam, was of the Jinn/Gen (as in his family was the Jinn, just as Abel, Noah, etc. were of Adam). After that we were warned to beware of his "Dthuriyati"="Offspring" (Ghost do not have children!).
Many people can choose to be Shayateen (evil ones) from among men and jinn.
Ghost/”Spirits”(not to be confused with the word “Ruh” which actually does mean “Spirit”)- also do not die. But, Men and Jinn do. So if Jinn die, then they are Alive are they not? You cannot kill something already dead can you?
“Invisible Ghosts” also do not have “Infantry and Cavalry” to attack people with (as in the Crusades to retake over the called “Holy” Land from the Muslims, by a people who had never been there to start with, and barely knew where the place was and that it existed; who were just shortly out of the icy mountains of the North for only around five hundred years when they were the Barbarian Hordes/ The Germanic Warriors/ the Teutons/ the Pleutons/ the tribes of the Gen/ and were still in their “Dark/Middle Age” time period barely able to read, write, and did not even know what soap was.)
Are there not certain "Secret Societies" (The Roshinaya, The Illuminated Ones, Certain Masonic Lodges, etc.) who are "Luciferian"( as in following Lucifer ( Light bringer) before his name became Satan)) and of course certain Families of Gentile (Genteel, of the Gentry) birth who feel they should rule the world because it is somehow their "Family Right" to do so?
I am not sure of what country you are in, but here in the United States of the Americas, we have Racists (as in not of the same Race as those they are mad at, and only care about their own Race) who I have heard say: "The Mud people are the cause of our problems".
Here is my question (to them): Adam was made of the sticky clay/ Mud so his people would be "Mud people, but since you separate yourself from Adam/Mud people, Meaning you are not of the Mud people, then what are your Ori (meaning to 'rise'- )-gins/gens?
Your background and your mother language will always tell who you are.
Excuse me if I seem to 'Run on', but I am a Muslim (not "Sunnah", or "Shi'a",or "Salafi", or any of the other things that the Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was not). It was not the way of the Prophet (SAW) or his Companions (raa) to just leave things misunderstood.
The terminolgy used in the Qur'an is not "Metaphysical"-cross another universe when it deals with Jinn and Man. "Get you down from here all of you! Earth will be your dwelling place."
So that shuts off that "In Another Parallel Universe" stuff. Of Jinn/Gen living and travelling between worlds. We both dwell/live on One World: Earth. You can break the world up into different 'sub' Worlds (such as the mythical Continent of Europe, the Third World, etc.) Pschologically if you want, but this is the Testing Ground. And when we do traverse the heavens, it will be man and jinn together(re: 55:33)- reminds me of the space program...
"(In falsehood will they be) Until, when death comes to one of them, he says: O my Lord! Send me back (to life),- In order that I may work righteousness in the things I have neglected.”-“By no means! It is but a word he says.” - Before them is a Partition/Barzak, till the day they are raised up.”
Well, that finishes that "Ghosts of Evil men!" stuff. If Allah says there are no Dead People on this side of the Barrier/Barzak, then that is the Truth! That concept is even biblical (Lazarus and the Rich man), but superstition overrode the truth even then!
"True, there were People of theMen/Rijalun from Men who took shelter with Men/Rijalun from Jinn/Gen, but they increased them in folly"(Q72:6).
Wow! People went and stayed with ghosts??? Of course not! Just read the Sura. If the Book of Allah says it is clear and easy to understand, then that is the final word on that. I do not need someone to tell me something how to read something that is Clear and Easy to understand. Just as some say “Strap on the Bomb and be a Martyr!” Clear and Easy to understand says: ” …and do not kill yourselves” (Q 4:29) Guess which one I am listening to…
The Malaika (the Angels in this language) were made from light, The Jinn were made from Fire, and Adam was made from Earth. Is there a problem with that? Ever heard: “ Ashes to Ashes and Dust to Dust.” When fire burns out, you are left with what? Ash, and when Mud dries up you are left with? Dust. Does “Walking Mud” have a problem with “Walking Fire”? , Or with “Walking Light”? The Jinn/gentiles were made before Adam was. I have no problem with that either.
You are just looking at different Species. Are Lions and Tigers the same? Yes they are Cats, but no because they are of different Species. Can they crossbreed? Yes, if you make them, but other than that a Tiger looks for another Tiger. A lion for another Lion.
Are Donkeys and Horses the same? Of Course not! Can they crossbreed? Sure can! That is how Mules are made.
Are Men and Jinn/Gen the same? No! Can they crossbreed? Been doing it for Centuries.
Always with that "I am Better than Adam's Children" Attitude.
When (allegedly) the Sons of Noah left the Ark, where did Japheth (know that was not his correct name) go?
To the Isles of the Gentiles.(Bible: Gen: 10:5)As they were known even in Noah’s time. So Jinn/Gentiles were known even then.
Were there: "Some one who is not a Christians/Jews/Muslims" as they translate the term “Gentile” way back then? No, because Ibraheem/Abraham would not be born for nearly another two thousand years, The Children of Israel/Yaqub/Jacob were Ibraheem’s grandchildren- Moses came four hundred years after them, etc. So, "Gentile" meant something totally different at that point, did it not?
Gentile is also synonymous with "Heathen", "Pagan", etc. as in where Jeremiah (10:) when we were told not to take the tree out the forest, stand it up, and deck it with silver and gold, because the (according to which translation you are reading) "Gentiles","Heathens", "Pagans", "Nations" do this(- As they do every single year and cry if you don't "Celebrate" and put presents under the "Christmas Tree "- every one knows how the Catholic church crosslinked the Mass of Christ and the pagan rites of Yule Tide to get more followers) and again violated another Order not to do something.
"We will take it back to our People/Qawmu". Not to "our plane of existence", since they already live here. (Read sura seventy- two, relatively it is a short only sura- twenty-eight verses).
The crazy Mythology that has crept into Islam is part of what is killing us. Between that and the literal changing of history (mostly by what we have been “taught” as opposed to what we actually read.) We will never stand a decent chance. It is mentioned somewhere in Qur’an, when people are being taken to Hell “did you not have any intellect (to make your own decisions)?” in regards to just following people on their “Charisma” and “wealth and power”. In our time, it would be listening to anyone who comes from “the Arabic Lands” simply because he is supposed to know Al Islam. The Prophet (SAW) put in on Everyone to learn their Qur’an, and their Islam. The most knowledgeable among you becomes the Imam, and the Sheik etc. If one Imam dies, the new one steps right up. If the entire community knows their Islam (male and female), who can corrupt it?
I will give one last example: Demonic Possession.
If Allah has Decreed that you have Limited Freewill/ Free Choice, how can some “outside force” come and “take over your body”? That would violate Allah’s Order that you have The Power to Choose. So it is not going to happen. You may have convinced yourself of something else, but when it is all said and done, who will be standing before Their Lord on the Day of Judgement? You, or the “Thing that made you do it”? Allah said it would be Y.O.U., all alone with Your Record in hand- not some “Demon’s Record”.
The Order was “Lure them with your seductive voice”. Now if you fell for him being a “Beautiful Angel that Fell from Heaven” (although Malaika/”Angels” have no Limited Free Will/ Power of Choice to mess up and not follow an Order from their Lord) or that he has any other “Power” or “Ability” than the power of persuasion (The Power of a Confidence/Con man), then that is your choice. If you fall for “the Game” then that is you. You do not hear of such until you read “the New Testament of the Bible”. Did you hear of such in the days of Musa/Moses? I’m sure those Sorcerors would have loved to have sent a few Demons after Musa/Moses- If such were “Available”. Most of the root sources for many of the things attributed to “Angels” and “Demons” are not in the actual Books (Torah, Bible, Qur’an) but from outside sources, usually “Epiphanies” from “Pious men of the Church”.
The only place biblically that deals with “Lucifer”, is Isaiah 14:12-20 look particularly at: 16 “They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee saying. Is this the man that made the earth tremble, that did shake kingdoms;”
Hold! Lucifer was a “man”? Not a “Ghost/Evil Spirit” ?Also 20 makes mention that “Thou shalt not join them in burial”. Of course not if he was granted “Respite” until the Day of Judgement.
Can you see a Soul? No. but it is in a body, correct? Soul and Spirit are sometimes used interchangeably
To indicate the life-force of a body. Correct?
Do you think that The Lord of the Universe would waste room in the Last Book sent to Men, Gentiles, Man-kind (kind of man), on the planet for a “Fairy Tale” when he specifically tells you that everything in the Book is TRUE?
I think Not.
Gen dearme: The Police (literally: L gens= a people/ de= of /arma= arms).
Jin riki sha: two wheeled oriental carriage (literally: Japanese. Jin= man/ riki= power /sha= carriage)
So, in some languages Jin/Gen = man? Interesting. In whose language would a Gen/Jinn be equal to Man?
As I said, that is my understanding of it. Sheik Abdullah’s book has some even harder background than I can remember (ever tried getting a book back from someone?).
Take it or leave it. The Freewill/Choice is yours.
Salam Alay koom.