Is selling halal services on pirate websites halal ?

Thank you brother/sister you saved my life

I know what he is talking about

And I have the same problem so I need help with that too

But the question is not completed

The question/ my question must be:

Notes:

1. Those sites requires you to pay a sum of money to allow you to sell there
2. Is paying them considered helping them in their haram business?
Therefore selling there is haram?
3. But My intention is investing that sum of money to be allowed to sell there and therefore making money, my intention is not helping them in any way

My intention is selling halal products but to do so I have to pay some money to be allowed to

So what am I doing?

I appreciate anyone wants to help

My income is on the line

Answer me honestly

I know what he is talking about

And I have the same problem so I need help with that too

But the question is not completed

The question/ my question must be:

Notes:

0. Those sites made to publish cracked software and to allow people to sell cracked software
0.1. I want to sell there HALAL services
1. Those sites requires you to pay a sum of money to allow you to sell there
2. Is paying them considered helping them in their haram business?
Therefore selling there is haram?
3. But My intention is investing that sum of money to be allowed to sell there and therefore making money, my intention is not helping them in any way

My intention is selling halal products but to do so I have to pay some money to be allowed to

So what am I doing?

I appreciate anyone wants to help

Another question

What if you have the contact numbers of those customers

Is selling them your services considered haram bcz you got those customers in a haram way?

Or no

Bcz those cuatomers are normal people and they have nothing to do with that haram buainess

Bcz they are just. a normall buyers or cuatomers

So selling them is halal?

Put yourself in my shoes plz

I mean I have direct contact of those customers.
They contacted me to buy my HALAL products. I didnt force anyone to buy from me. They bought in their free will.

And I have a direct connection with them and some of them are regular customers that buy from time to time.

So if I stopped selling there and did tawba. I have to get rid of my custoners?? And not selling them anything again??

Let me just clarify

So you saying if I stopped selling there any customer I have now its fine to do business with him?

Plz make it as yes or no

In the other hand there is another sites whom follow the law by doing this


1. They don't encourage bad acts (stealing, cracking....)
2. They say in the rules & terms (We not responsible of what is posted here, you the only one responsible for your actions)
3. You have to pay a fee to sell thre

So?

That is obvious a lot better option and you are legal/halal, why not?

Try to get socially active in your jamah, in your community, offfer services in some other places too.
Give some for free maybe, volounteer a little bit too and improve your skills and soft skills.

format_quote Originally Posted by dragoncity

In the other hand there is another sites whom follow the law by doing this


1. They don't encourage bad acts (stealing, cracking....)
2. They say in the rules & terms (We not responsible of what is posted here, you the only one responsible for your actions)
3. You have to pay a fee to sell thre

So?

So those sites are halal to sell in them?

Is there a reason they should not be, the mainstream sites without crime and as your services are halal and tayyib??

format_quote Originally Posted by Murid

Is there a reason they should not be, the mainstream sites without crime and as your services are halal and tayyib??

format_quote Originally Posted by Murid

Is there a reason they should not be, the mainstream sites without crime and as your services are halal and tayyib??

the diffrence between the two kinds of forums I talk about is:

I will change the site domains just to not show them for real (I will use example.com)

1. The first kind of sites/forums are titled litterally

(example.com is a cracking forum and community. We offer free premium accounts to everyone and we have a variation of cracked and leaked programs to choose from!)

another one

(example.com is a community where you can find tons of great leaks, make new friends, participate in active discussions and much more.)

and the other one doesn't have any title but when you access it you see these sub forums

( World News, Anime & Manga, Not safe for work. Giveaways, Operating systems, Programs, Antivirus, Advanced hacking, Website & Server Hacking, Social Engineering, Coding, Tutorialsm Graphic Design, Video Design, Battlesm Web Design, Cross Platforms, Microsoft Consoles, Nintendo Consoles, Sony Consoles, PC Gaming, Ebooks, Music, Movies & TV, Programs, Gmaes, Accounts, Market disscussion, Monetizing, Marketplace ) Most of those sub forums are fine except the hacking ones but the hacking ones can be for white or red or black hat hackers so I don't know

the above one I don't know about it. Can you answer me for the above one also ?

2. The second kind of sites/forums are titled

(example.com is a community driven digital marketplace that connects buyers and sellers from all around. We have grown to become a leading platform for trading virtual products. You can also participate in general discussions on our site, make new friends, and have some fun!)

the other one

( example.com Video game and social media marketplace. We supports over 1000 games with nearly a million members. )


So in summary my problem/question is:
1. Are the first kind still HARAM after I detailed them ?
2. What about the last one of the first kind ?
3. Are the second kind still HALAL ?

The second kind is splitted between 2

Ones that says "don't do illegal stuff here". (This one is clear for me HALAL and allahu aelam)

And other ones say "we are not responsible of what is posted here "and they don't encourage illegal stuff at same time. (Those I am semi sure about them HALAL and allahu aelam but still I have to ask to be more sure) you can think of those in real life like a marketplace or a supermarket owner that he doesn't say for example "don't sell drugs or wine or bad stuff" but at same time he doesn't encourage it. He just say "You the responsible of what you are selling and I am not telling you what or what to not sell" and I am dragoncity the one who pay the owner of that supermarket (that have wine drugs and different kind of food in it) a fee to sell there.


So what am I doing now ?

Do what is clearly legal/halal on good sites inshaAllah and focus more into marketing and improving skills and value of your services in "the lack of jobs" and in the surplus of time.