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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

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    Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
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    One part said, "The lives of the captured men and women in an Islamic state under the God’s
    Guidance is much better than the lives of the captured men and women in a secular state
    under the severe biased laws of the state
    ".

    Are Christians freely able to build churches and gather for worship without persecution like Muslims
    build their mosques and attend on Fridays or are the Christians' freedoms much less that captured
    men and women?

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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by theplains View Post
    One part said, "The lives of the captured men and women in an Islamic state under the God’s
    Guidance is much better than the lives of the captured men and women in a secular state
    under the severe biased laws of the state".
    Are Christians freely able to build churches and gather for worship without persecution like Muslims
    build their mosques and attend on Fridays or are the Christians' freedoms much less that captured
    men and women?
    Jim
    Greetings my respected and noble brother Jim,

    May you read this post while you are in the best of all conditions Aameen


    are muslims allowd to build mosques in Vatican?

    it is too holy to let any other beliefs have their own places of worship on it's land, it is pure christian and if talking about some muslims land preventing building churches or other places of worship on it then they are holy too to us and pure muslim too just like the Vatican...if you would come to the muslims land then none has the right to force ya to leave your religion nor embrace another cause Allah says:

    "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. (256)" Surat Al Baqarah

    but if would wanna build a place of worship for yourself on its land then it is from their rights to say no cause it is their land whether holy or not and I can't force anyone to give me what belongs not to me...we are free to belong to whatever religion we want on others land but has no right to violate others rights without taking their consent or permissions...the freedom is within something you have not in others properties...

    May The One Who Created heavens and earth lead your way to the path of the endless happiness; giving ya the best of this life and of the afterlife too Aameen

    Take the best care of your precious self.

    Leaving ya under The Creator's sight, care and protection...

    Humbly and with all respect, your sister:

    Amat Allah.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amat Allah View Post
    are muslims allowd to build mosques in Vatican?
    The Vatican covers an area of just 110 acres which were entirely built up centuries ago, or dedicated to permanent gardens. You couldn't squeeze anything in there now. It has a population of 800 none of whom (so far as is known) are Muslims.

    It's not really a city, it's an administration centre for the Catholic Church.

    Therefore, the Vatican is not a fair comparison with the principle of building churches or mosques in entire countries. If you oppose building churches in majority Muslim countries then in fairness you should oppose building mosques in majority Christian countries - which I doubt that you do? If there is no compulsion in religion, should that not include their places of worship?
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

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    The Vatican covers an area of just 110 acres which were entirely built up centuries ago, or dedicated to permanent gardens. You couldn't squeeze anything in there now. It has a population of 800 none of whom (so far as is known) are Muslims.

    It's not really a city, it's an administration centre for the Catholic Church.

    Therefore, the Vatican is not a fair comparison with the principle of building churches or mosques in entire countries. If you oppose building churches in majority Muslim countries then in fairness you should oppose building mosques in majority Christian countries - which I doubt that you do? If there is no compulsion in religion, should that not include their places of worship?
    i agree,

    people fail to understand that the message of islam was of religion, which ultimately lead to responsibility over lands and people.

    it was something that came from humble beginnings that overcame much personal oppression.


    which is probably the best environment for learning.



    ...i could be entirely wrong though.


    "Taghut" i didnt know what it mean.

    and even in definition it can be applied however a person applies it.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    The Vatican covers an area of just 110 acres which were entirely built up centuries ago, or dedicated to permanent gardens. You couldn't squeeze anything in there now. It has a population of 800 none of whom (so far as is known) are Muslims.

    It's not really a city, it's an administration centre for the Catholic Church.

    Therefore, the Vatican is not a fair comparison with the principle of building churches or mosques in entire countries. If you oppose building churches in majority Muslim countries then in fairness you should oppose building mosques in majority Christian countries - which I doubt that you do? If there is no compulsion in religion, should that not include their places of worship?

    On the topic of spacing, one can simply take an existing structure and use that. Its not necessary to build a mosque on an empty lot. Not that it'll happen but, I just thought I'd point that out. Although we can only speculate, even if the Vatican were a much larger place, I'd imagine placing mosques there wouldn't fair well with them.

    And also, there are churches in places that have a Muslim majority. If a country were to follow Islamic law, then one much consult what the laws say in regards to religious tolerance and not what you or I say. If a non Muslim living in a Muslim majority country feels like their religious freedom has been taken away, can they not move to a different location? Just like with Muslims, if we lose our right to practice our religion, we are encouraged to move to a more tolerant place.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    On the topic of spacing, one can simply take an existing structure and use that. Its not necessary to build a mosque on an empty lot. Not that it'll happen but, I just thought I'd point that out. Although we can only speculate, even if the Vatican were a much larger place, I'd imagine placing mosques there wouldn't fair well with them.

    And also, there are churches in places that have a Muslim majority. If a country were to follow Islamic law, then one much consult what the laws say in regards to religious tolerance and not what you or I say. If a non Muslim living in a Muslim majority country feels like their religious freedom has been taken away, can they not move to a different location? Just like with Muslims, if we lose our right to practice our religion, we are encouraged to move to a more tolerant place.

    i guess so, but in reality people dont want to lose there home lands.. especially if they have significant religious roots there.

    take isreal and palestine as a long running example.

    in theory a person can move freely within his or her own means, but it is very hard to relocate an entire peoples.
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    The issue with the Palestine has nothing to do with religious freedoms or a lack of it.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    one much consult what the laws say in regards to religious tolerance and not what you or I say
    But if a country were to prohibit building mosques, would you think that was acceptable? The principle of fairness has to go both ways.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    The answer is in the second half of my first reply. It applies to both Muslims and non Muslims. Don't forget that although mosques are preferred, they aren't needed for me to fulfill my duties as a Muslim. I can pray at home, or I can pray outside. It makes no difference to me.
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    it matters not at all if living in a country where it prohibits building mosques or not my respected brother; do you know why?

    cause if there is not even one mosque on earth then that won't stop us Muslims from worshiping The One Who Created us...if you wish; go and search through internet and you will see how Muslims get to gather in lines standing for prayer even in streets, snowy weathers, even above trains and wherever just to worship The One...

    Nothing and none can stop us or prevents us from being the slaves and servants of Allah The Only and Alone Lord of The Whole World...

    Not to forget to mention that whatever land in this world is the land of God Al Mighty The Creator and we the slaves and servants of Him The Exalted will be His slaves and servants wherever and will not wait for four walls gathered with some roof to be built to worship our Lord and we must not get busy wasting our times
    demanding of such thing from anybody anywhere while The Lord The One and Only One Who deserves to Be worshiped taught us:

    " And to Allah belong the east and the west, so wherever you turn yourselves or your faces there is the Face of Allah (and He is High above, over His Throne). Surely! Allah is All-Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All-Knowing. (115)" Surat Al Baqarah

    "And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and Allah has power over all things. (189) Surat Aal Im'raan

    Laa ilaha illa Allah and Allahu Akbar wa Lellahi Elhamd.

    I don't care how much small the land is I am talking about; I have given an example to be understood more than a matter of comparison between whatever.

    And in another way; you are welcome to enter my house with whatever religion you have in your heart but it is not from your right to change my house, or is it?

    May The Lord of Heavens and Earth guide us all to Him The Exalted Aameen
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    The answer is in the second half of my first reply.
    Ok, if I understand correctly: in your view, it would indeed be ok for any country to prohibit the construction of minority religion places of worship. You are even-handed about this and you do accept that it would therefore be ok for another country to prohibit building mosques.

    A few observations - firstly, it seems to me that although you yourself are being scrupulously fair, I'm not sure all Muslims would react the same way. Say, for instance, if the UK were to start banning further construction of mosques.

    Secondly, is this not starting to encroach on the principle of 'let there be no compulsion in religion'. If life is made hard enough a minority religion, isn't that breaking the spirit of the law?

    Thirdly, what do you think would be fair in the case of countries where the Christian community pre-dates the arrival of Islam? An obvious case is the Coptic Church in Egypt. (It is even said that a specific deal was negotiated on their behalf at the time of the Muslim invasion although the exact history is hard to be sure about.) Should the Copts be allowed to construct new churches? This starts to drift into the territory of new conversions too, which of course is even more controversial.
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    If they were to ban mosques from being built or destroy the mosques that are currently standing, than I'd say they are doing it with bad intentions. How many other different places of worship are there? Why only target mosques? In places like the Vatican, I could understand why they would prevent other places of worship from being built. In places like Saudi Arabia, I can understand why they would prevent other places of worship from being built. But in places like the US or UK, again, I think if it were to be done, it would be done with bad intentions and I don't think it would be OK. Simply getting rid of mosques for the sake of it will not go well with many groups of people, including non Muslims.

    On your second point, I don't see how this has anything to do with there being no compulsion in religion. As mentioned earlier, if no mosques existed where I currently live, that would not make my life any harder as a Muslim. If there were no churches where a Christian lived, would that make them any less of a Christian or make their lives as a Christian that much harder? I wouldn't think so.

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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    It is true that if Muslims had no Mosques, then worshiping Allah would still be able to go on without any hindrance:

    Narrated Abu Dhaar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Which mosque was built first?" He replied, "Al-Masjid-ul-Haram." I asked, "Which (was built) next?" He replied, "Al-Masjid-ul-Aqs-a (i.e. Jerusalem)." I asked, "What was the period in between them?" He replied, "Forty (years)." He then added, "Wherever the time for the prayer comes upon you, perform the prayer, for all the earth is a place of worshipping for you." (Book #55, Hadith#636)
    (Sahih Bukhari)

    As for the freedom to build churches in Muslim countries, there is no hindrance to any of this allowed at all in Islam, in fact, during times of Jihad all places of worship are to be protected:

    2:39 To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-
    2:40 (They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will).

    Thus, Allah does not allow for places of worship of any other religion to be destroyed since His names is mentioned in them. Freedom of religion is allowed in Muslim countries, but at the present time, Muslim countries are not actually following Islam, despite their outward posing to follow it. They are hypocritical to say the least.
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    Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    Simply getting rid of mosques for the sake of it will not go well with many groups of people, including non Muslims.
    Please understand, in my personal view, although i don't subscribe to any organised religion I am in favour of total freedom of worship including places of worship, in every country.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    In places like the Vatican, I could understand why they would prevent other places of worship from being built. In places like Saudi Arabia, I can understand why they would prevent other places of worship from being built. But in places like the US or UK, again, I think if it were to be done, it would be done with bad intentions and I don't think it would be OK
    In the Vatican it would be impractical and unnecessary but I' don't think it's actually illegal - I doubt anyone has ever applied! It would be very difficult to acquire property for any purpose.

    Saudi is a huge country. There is no practical difficulty. There are Christians in the country. Is there a ban here?

    If Saudi or any other Muslim country were to ban Churches for theological reasons, then surely the UK, US or any other country can ban mosques for any reason they like, just as a Muslim country makes its own decisions for its own reasons? Isn't that fair?

    Again, I stress that I personally am in favour of complete freedom of worship in all countries, for all religions.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    If there were no churches where a Christian lived, would that make them any less of a Christian or make their lives as a Christian that much harder? I wouldn't think so.
    I'm not sure all Muslims or Christians would agree with you. Coming together as a group to worship means a lot to many people. If a country makes it harder to follow one religion rather than another, then it seems to me this is indeed breaking the spirit of 'no compulsion' - perhaps not the letter.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    The issue with the Palestine has nothing to do with religious freedoms or a lack of it.

    you are right, i am really quite thick.


    i just saw a comparison in the post above mine, maybe not in your line of thinking.




    ...i feel constantly trolled.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    Please understand, in my personal view, although i don't subscribe to any organised religion I am in favour of total freedom of worship including places of worship, in every country.

    In the Vatican it would be impractical and unnecessary but I' don't think it's actually illegal - I doubt anyone has ever applied! It would be very difficult to acquire property for any purpose.

    Saudi is a huge country. There is no practical difficulty. There are Christians in the country. Is there a ban here?
    I'm not sure of the laws in those areas but, I was just trying to make the point that I can understand why they choose to only allow their place of worship to be built and not others considering IF that were the case, as compared to places like the UK or US.

    If Saudi or any other Muslim country were to ban Churches for theological reasons, then surely the UK, US or any other country can ban mosques for any reason they like, just as a Muslim country makes its own decisions for its own reasons? Isn't that fair?

    Again, I stress that I personally am in favour of complete freedom of worship in all countries, for all religions.
    The other point I was making in my reply was, why would they target mosques only? If the Saudis only allow mosques to be built, that's different than the US saying "hey, everyone here can have their place of worship except the Muslims", don't you think? Saudi claims to follow Islamic laws. The US does not claim to follow any religious law, so I believe IF the US ever decided to ban all mosques from existing, I'd question their reasoning behind it.

    I'm not sure all Muslims or Christians would agree with you. Coming together as a group to worship means a lot to many people. If a country makes it harder to follow one religion rather than another, then it seems to me this is indeed breaking the spirit of 'no compulsion' - perhaps not the letter.
    That may be true but, while I can't speak for Christians, Muslims should not use the lack of mosques in their area as an excuse to not pray. I still can't see the reasoning as to why the lack of a mosque would make it harder for a Muslim to follow their religion. This was also pointed out earlier by Amat Allah and Ahmad H.
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