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    The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity. (OP)


    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    The religion of all of the Prophets from Adam alaihi salaam to the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم has been Islam only. The true followers of Jesus and Muses (Eisa and Musa عليهما السلام ) were Muslims.

    When the followers of Jesus ( Eisa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam and got involved in polytheism, Christianity came into being.
    When the followers of Muses ( Musa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam, Judaism came into being.
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

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    The fact that Jesus is descended from Adam and Mary is descended from Adam requires no mental gymnastics. Adam is Al Insaan.

    Nor would any Muslim be rightly offended if referred to as a Son/daughter of Adam or Son/daughter of Al Insaan.

    are you (a female) a unit of "mankind"?
    but hey! you're not a man, so how can you be a member - you know exactly what i mean don't you?
    Mary was also called "ukht a haruun" in al Quran, decipher that if you will.

    Answer :In His Name the Most High,All praise is due to Allah, may peace be upon Muhammed and his pure progeny and may the curse of Allah be upon their enemies.*The Office Answer:Assalamu Alaikum,*Arabs often use idioms, as such, in connection with one’s lineage.

    For example, the idiom “Ya Akha al-‘Arab” is used to refer to someone who is of Arab lineage or “Ya Akha al-Khazraj” is used to refer to someone who is from the lineage of Khazraj, or “Ya Akha Abdul Qays” which is used to refer to someone who is a descendant of Abdul Qays, and so on.*

    Therefore, the use of the idiom “Ya 'Ukhta Harūna” or “O’ sister of Aaron” in the Quranic verse (19:28) is not literal and means that Mary (peace be upon her) was from the lineage of Prophet Aaron (peace be upon him). By analogy, Allah the Most Exalted has said in Chapter Al-Ahqaf, speaking of Prophet Hud (peace be upon him); “And mention the brother of Aad; when he warned his people in the sandy plains” (46:21) that is, “And mention (Hud who is from the lineage) of Aad; when he warned his people in the sandy plains”24th Ramadhan 1431The Office of Sheikh al-Habib in LondonReading :*5242******

    http://www.alqatrah.net/en/question/index.php?id=49
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    The case here is based on a superficial reading of Qur'an 19:28 without taking into account the qualities of Mary, mother of Jesus. No real effort has been exerted to properly understand the context in which the phrase “sister of Aaron” was uttered, either by earlier Western scholars or the Christian missionaries. Although this alleged historical contradiction is now rejected by modern Western scholars, as we shall see, it is worthwhile pointing out why this is the case. We will also draw attention to some important aspects of the story of Mary in the Qur'an that were hitherto missed by earlier scholars.

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    Mughira b. Shu‘ba reported: When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me:

    You read "O sister of Harun" in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus.

    When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said:

    "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them."

    It is clear from this*ḥadīth*that the Prophet did not "confuse" between the two Marys.

    He pointed out that people from earlier times gave names after the pious people who had gone before them. Furthermore, the Muslim exegetes have already disproved the alleged confusion of the two Marys using the above*ḥadīth*and the Qur'an itself.

    For example, Barbara Freyer Stowasser points out:Mary's designation as "sister of Aaron" (and also "daughter of Amram") has led some non-Muslims to allege a Qur'anic "confusion" of Miriam (Maryam) the sister of Aaron and Moses with Mary (Maryam) the mother of Jesus. This controversy is very old...,*and refutation of the allegation by Muslim authorities is well-documented.

    According to the*tafsir, Mary was addressed as "sister of Aaron" because the Qur'an is drawing a comparison, or because she did have a brother by that name.

    Elsewhere, concerning the alleged contradiction of the two Mary's, Stowasser, quoting Ibn Kathir, and says:This controversy is as old as the Muslim-Christian dialogue. The Prophet is said to have refuted similar arguments made by the Christians of Najran during his lifetime; "to confuse Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary the sister of Moses and Aaron in Torah is completely wrong and in contradiction to the sound Hadith and the Qur'anic text as we have established it in the Tafsir" (Isma'il ibn Umar Abu l-Fida Ibn Kathir,*Qisas al-anbiya', ed. Mustafa Abd al-Wahid, vol. II [Dar al-kutub al-haditha, 1968] pp. 393-394;[

    http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur...rnal/mary.html
    a passage from the bible to indicate the natures of the terms:

    Luke

    There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia:
    and his wife*was*of the daughters of Aaron, and her name*was Elisabeth.

    6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.*7And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were*nowwell stricken in years.8And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course,*9According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.*10And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.*

    11And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.*12And when Zacharias saw*him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.13But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.*14And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.*16And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

    18And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.*

    19And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.*

    20And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

    21And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple.22And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless.*23And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.24And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,*25Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on*me, to take away my reproach among men.

    from the hadith of Isra and mi'raj:


    Then we ascended to the second heaven.
    Gabriel (peace be upon him) (asked the door of heaven to be opened), and he was asked who he was.
    He answered: Gabriel; and was again asked: Who is with you? He replied: Muhammad. It was said: Has he been sent for? He replied: He has indeed been sent for. The gate was opened.

    When I entered Jesus and John (peace be upon them), maternal cousins, welcomed me and prayed for my good.
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    christainity is not a religion.

    jesus didnt establish a religion.

    i dont want any religion.

    jesus didnt establish islam at all.
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    format_quote Originally Posted by vipin View Post
    christainity is not a religion.

    jesus didnt establish a religion.

    i dont want any religion.

    jesus didnt establish islam at all.
    Islam is not religion either - its a way of life.

    You are right - Jesus didn´t establish Islam. The God/Allah established it.

    All glory belongs to Allah.
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Islam is not religion either - its a way of life.

    You are right - Jesus didn´t establish Islam. The God/Allah established it.

    All glory belongs to Allah.
    thanks for agreeing jesus didnt establish Islam.

    also, Jesus has no part in it.
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    format_quote Originally Posted by vipin View Post

    also, Jesus has no part in it.
    When you claim something like this, you also have to show the proof.

    Jesus is mentioned in the Quran many times, so he is part of Islam. Specially because as he is one of the prophets of Islam.

    Like:

    "..We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear signs and strengthened him with the holy spirit"
    HOLY QURAN 2:87

    "..O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary..."
    HOLY QURAN 3:45

    "..Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God.."
    HOLY QURAN 4:171

    When you read the Quran, you will find more.
    The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    lol vipin you appear to be blatantly baiting now but it's Eid and i'm stuffed with cow meat so i'm in a good mood.

    (1)*Then when Jesus came to know of their disbelief, he said: "Who will be my helpers in Allah's Cause?"
    The disciples) said: "We are the helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah, and bear witness that we are Muslims (i.e. we submit to Allah)."

    (سورة آل عمران, Aal-i-Imraan, Chapter*#3, Verse*#52)

    (2)*And when I (Allah) revealed to Al-Hawariyyun*(the disciples) [of 'Îsa (Jesus)] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: "We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims."*

    (سورة المائدة, Al-Maaida, Chapter*#5, Verse*#111) (سورة المائدة, Al-Maaida, Chapter*#5, Verse*#111)
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    It is all a matter of semantics, maybe Christianity and Islam are sects of the old Abrahamic monotheistic religion. Like Buddhism is an offshoot of Hindoo. It is probably not worth fighting over this as the world is being taken over by the Godless hordes anyway. Totalitarian One World Order by 2030!
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    Re: The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

    format_quote Originally Posted by vipin View Post
    jesus didnt establish islam at all.
    format_quote Originally Posted by vipin View Post
    thanks for agreeing jesus didnt establish Islam.

    also, Jesus has no part in it.
    Vipin, as you progress in your reading of the translation of the Qur'an, you will see that God, whom we refer to as Allah in Arabic, has, since the beginning of humanity, sent a succession of prophets to people throughout the ages, to convey His message to them, and with guidance to show people how He wants them to live and worship Him. Muslims believe in all the prophets Allah sent, and do not reject or blaspheme any of them, from Adam, to the last and final prophet, Muhammad, peace be on them all. They were the purest and noblest of humanity and were not divine in any way. Allah sent all the prophets with the same message and not different messages. The message was: to submit wholeheartedly to Allah and worship Him and Him alone, without any associates in, or parts to, His Exclusive Divinity, and to obey the prophet. This is the very core of Islam. God's prophets and messengers taught that people should be under no misperception that they can commit themselves to Allah as their Lord, and then combine this with accepting others as their Lord, or associating others in His Divinity, in whatever way. They taught that we should strive hard to translate our belief in the One True God into practice, by obeying Allah and the messengers He sent, who were also role models and examples for us, showing us practically how to put the guidance they were sent with into practice in our daily lives, explaining the scriptures, warning against wrong-doing, giving good tidings, and giving additional legislation from Allah.

    So Islam is not a new faith, but is the same ultimate universal truth that God revealed to all the prophets, including Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be on them all), and the same thing they all taught. Thus Islam is not named after a specific person (like Christianity, Buddhism), nor after a certain race or place (like Judaism, Hinduism), but is named by God Himself, the meaning loosely translating as 'submission to God', which is what every Prophet and their righteous followers did, from amongst all times, places and peoples. That in itself is one fraction of the evidence that it was the way of all the Prophets from the beginning.

    With time, the message got forgotten or corrupted. So people started worshipping other gods along with Him, made idols, said that God begot a son, said that certain people were incarnations of God, some rejected belief in God altogether, while others elevated the status of some prophets to divine, or at the other end, rejected or blasphemed some of the prophets. Whenever God's message got distorted by people, or forgotten, a new messenger was sent, not with any new or changed message, but reinforcing the actual message that God sent all the messengers with, the actual core beliefs that people were taught from the beginning of humanity, confirming the true parts of previous teachings and scriptures, and correcting wrong beliefs and misconceptions that had crept in.

    God required that whenever He sent a new messenger, that messenger should be followed along with any new scripture given to him. This chain of messengers culminates in prophet Muhammad (peace on him), who is the last and final prophet and messenger. Since his prophethood, God's message is available unchanged and unadulterated, for the entire world, until the end of time. He wasn't sent as prophet and messenger for a specific group of people and specific time (e.g. as Moses and Jesus were to the Children of Israel), but he was sent for all the world, for all time, until the Day of Judgement. Thus he is the last, not first, prophet of Islam; a messenger to all mankind, for now, and for all time to come. He is the messenger who must now be followed.

    With regards to Jesus (peace be on him), Muslims love and respect Jesus (peace be upon him) and believe in him as he was; one of the noblest and purest of humanity to ever walk the earth, and one of the greatest messengers of Allah, sent to the Children of Israel. We do not reject him (as Jews do), nor do we deify him (as Christians do). Neither he, nor any other messenger, ever claimed divinity, or to be God's son. We believe he was born miraculously of the noble virgin Mary (peace be on her), and that he is the messiah. We do not however, believe that he died or was crucified. He'll return to earth near the end of time.

    We call you, Vipin, to that same truth, that all the Prophets, including Jesus, peace be on him, practised and preached. The message didn't suddenly change when it came to Jesus (peace on him), nor did he rebel against God and claim divinity for himself. When you reach Surah al-Maa'idah, the fifth surah, you'll come across these verses, which foretell what Jesus (peace on him) will say when God, on the Day of Judgement, to illustrate to humankind, will ask Jesus whether he claimed divinity or said he should be worshipped:

    "He [Jesus] will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness." (5:116-117)

    Many Muslims who were formerly Christian, say it feels like they have returned home, and they feel closer to Jesus now than when they were Christian. We understand it is natural for you to want to defend what you have believed for so long, and what you currently believe to be the truth, but we hope and pray that you will ponder and reflect, and re-evaluate and reassess the basis for your own beliefs and doctrines. And it is that to which all people are invited by the Qur'an. Your beliefs regarding God, and which faith you follow, are the biggest, most serious and most important decisions you will ever make, as this life will end one day for all of us, and our position regarding God and His messengers is what makes or breaks our hereafter, which is forever. You owe it to yourself, to not regret in the hereafter, when it'll be too late.

    Peace.
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