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Insaanah
Please think about what you're saying. So you're not willing to accept forgiveness from God if it cost Him nothing. On the one hand, you say you want to glorify God, yet on the other hand, you reduce Him to the level of a stingy human being who gave you a present that cost Him nothing if He forgives you freely of His will. It seems you do not attach value to His forgiveness because there was no cost. I've never heard those thoughts before. It is like viewing Allah as a human being that gave you a present that cost nothing, and you view that as being stingy and not generous. We seek Allah's refuge from that. He is the Infinitely Rich, and His gifts to us, are matchless and priceless. He is the font of freely flowing, abundant, never ending forgiveness, far above human imperfections. That actually shows His infinite generosity, without any match or comparison for it.
Please please think. A god who has to give up something, lose something, sacrifice something, incur a cost, is not a God. All of these are lowly human limitations that cannot be ascribed to God, glorified and exalted be He.
It is actually denigrating to God's Power that He should not be able to forgive or remove sins without begetting a son and then sacrificing the son. It ascribes imperfection to God. This is not forgiveness, but atonement. One thing pays the price for another. Perfection is being able to forgive, freely, abundantly, at will. That is perfection. Islam recognises God's power to forgive with just His Will. Some of the other religions seem to claim that forgiveness requires a purchase price and if we can't pay it, somebody else has to pay it on our behalf. In Islam, forgiveness comes without a purchase price or sacrifice. We do not/cannot: buy, sacrifice for, earn or steal it. It comes freely when we sincerely ask for forgiveness and truly repent, accepting God's will.
In Islam, as Adam and Eve (peace be upon them) asked for forgiveness and were forgiven, so we too ask for Allah's forgiveness for our sins, as He loves for us to turn to Him in repentance, and loves forgiving. This forgiveness comes freely, just by Allah's will, when we sincerely ask for forgiveness and truly repent. Forgiveness does not require any type of sacrifice by God, or any purchase price. Both Adam and Eve repented and were forgiven by their Loving, Merciful Lord; and indeed Adam was then chosen to be the first person to receive guidance from Allah, was honoured by Allah, and is counted among all the other Prophets of Islam.
You see you keep talking about the problem of sin. The problem in Christianity, actually starts with the concept of the trinity, and snowballs from there. 3 = 1 or 1 =3 depending on who you ask, while some say its a mystery. Then you have this eternal ****ation, for which you need a saviour, God has to beget a son, and have him killed etc etc. We have no such problem in Islam. The core concepts of our faith were written down from the word go, as they were revealed by God, not the words of men written 50-60 years and more after Christ (peace be on him) and the core beliefs of the faith finalised at councils 300 years later, unrecogniable from Jesus (peace be on him actually preached).
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