Im sorry to say from starting off with an open mind my experience of talking to Muslims is one of intolerance, and barely disguised hatred of non Muslims. This very forum has already warned me that their is no tolerance of criticising the Muslim faith. And its obvious Muslims have a long list of subjects they refuse to discuss with non Muslims.
I don't know how it will be possible to post anything worthwhile on any Muslim forum. There is simply no conception of free speech.
I have to now point out that all free thinking has to be without fear of sanction, so in Islam saying "think and beleive" is not really true, those who have left Islam and talk about it are under constant fear of attack, even murder, some of their own families have disowned them.
If you are schooled in Islam from day one, and told you will face severe punishment if you leave the releigion then free thought is impossible im afraid.
Like who? who left islam and then exposed it? I'm waiting to debunk your youtube videos with proof that those who claim they used to be Muslims, never were...
...myself, I was born a Muslim and left the religion, only to come back to it myself through conviction that it is the correct path. This, after studying the Abrahamic faith traidions and the shamanic ones as well as the lesser known faith groups.
None appealed more to my sense of divine justice, equity and equality than Islam did, and the more I studied it independently, the more I recognised truth.
So yes, I'm awaiting your ex-Muslims lol. On VC I have a thread exposing all those fakers.
I have to now point out that all free thinking has to be without fear of sanction, so in Islam saying "think and beleive" is not really true, those who have left Islam and talk about it are under constant fear of attack, even murder, some of their own families have disowned them.
If you are schooled in Islam from day one, and told you will face severe punishment if you leave the releigion then free thought is impossible im afraid.
Some people in my maternal family are Christians. They converted from Islam into Christianity in late of 19th century, but still accepted by Muslims in the big family. Relationship between Muslims in Christians in my family are always good. One of my Christian relative even lived in my home for few years when he studied in my city.
In certain areas, indeed, ex-Muslims face threat. But mostly of ex-Muslim live safely, even if they live in Muslim majority countries. In Indonesia you can find ex-Muslims who live among Muslims safely. Mostly of them converted because marriage.
As in any Abrahamic faith, in islam it is based around the 5 pillars of islam and the 6 of faith. In addition, we must be truthful, charitable, patient, just, think well, do well and say well.
So, islam is about tolerance. Because we are told that life is a test, a temporary abode, but a really, really significant period. Where what is right is always felt like the losing side.
I repeat, again, this is a seriously really important time. Our eternity is at stake. Yes or no to eternity does not negate that we are surely headed to going 6 feet under.
The is where Islam provides the best answer for when you are there, most fair. Bottom line, via His Majestic illustrations, He Shows His Mercy and Forgiveness we know nothing of His Judgment. We can only guess. And that is futile as it is said in the Quran time and again.
In real honesty, I can stick my neck out and say that probably less than a handful in this entire forum would even claim to say that their 5 daily prayers are accepted. I certainly don't. How many years? Not sure if any is accepted by the All Mighty Allah.
Why do I even do it then? I submit to Him. I accept and tolerate by nature to forever and a day be a humble being serving Him by following His Way.
For that, we have have to be patient. Again, that is related to tolerance. When the tolerance is pushed as with the patience, there will be reactions. .
But as br. Scimi said, islam fits the bill. Full stop. If every one gets a chance to study it, untainted, it will blow away everything else. It will cause the collapse of the 1% super duper world ruling class system.
So they plot.
They say everything bad about Islam. Instigate many things against Islam and Muslims. So, who'd want to associate with islam?
When actually, it is only the final message from our Lord, Allah in Arabic, and Elloh (?) in Hebrew(?). But somehow in the Bible (probably because of the changes so extreme) His Name doesn't appear. This Book, the Quran, reaffirms Allah, and His reminders to us all. And his example, Muhammad saw, most patient.
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