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    Do you know how a scientific theory is developed? A scientist observes a phenomenon and postulates based on that. His observation is limited by the precision of the equipment that he has. It is also limited by his limited resources and all other limited human weaknesses.


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    The truth is what Allah has revealed on the Prophet . And theories and assumptions are what science might tell us. Science can never explain the truth fully because it is limited by many factors, such as limits in human intelligence, resources, practical evidences etc...

    Therefore, accepting the Truth revealved by Allah is better than waiting for science to prove something.
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    The first thing that needs to be pointed out or emphasized is that science is not an individual, it is no more than human beings making observations and sometimes coming to conclusions, and these conclusions are sometimes accurate, sometimes change as data continues to come in, and are sometimes discarded when found to be totally incorrect - and this process carries on until the death of each individual.
    I mention this due to the fact that I have been recently seeing the term "science" presented in the media as a noun, a sort of idol for people to either oppose or reject in totality.

    Another thing which needs to be taken into account is that we come to (or at least should come to) our conclusions about everything around us - and about ourselves through thinking - so when we grow older and choose to think critically and not be strung along by other people who are likely to be highly flawed or mistaken themselves, or are/have been knowingly deceiving us, we are able to look at all the data before us and draw conclusions, whilst leaving other observations open due to uncertainty.
    There are some observations which require choices to be made, and others that don't.
    Say for instance, the flat earth perception that most people had thousands of years ago, it didn't really require them to make a choice as to whether it was true or not since it wouldn't affect them or anyone else much regardless of what choice they made.
    Whereas, when you're given a claim that there is eternal life after death, and just judgement, and reward or punishment according to actions, intentions, and circumstances - with no factor left out, and you know you're going to die one day, and it could even be today - such a claim requires that a sound thinking person will stop everything else they are doing if necessary, and use their brain's full processing power to come to a truthful decision on the subject taking all available data into account.
    It is true that many factors can play a role in such decision making - including personal preferences and family/tribal/national perception etc, but if one thinks seriously for themselves and takes into account that they are being told that no other person will help them on that day of judgement, and they are wise, and are honest with themselves, they are likely to come to the actual truth, and if everybody else does that, they will find that they are most likely on the same page.
    There is also the factor of the foolish, not of age, insane, and less intelligent/knowledgeable, but they too usually pass on such decision making and choosing to those whom they perceive to be sincerely looking out for them and wiser than themselves - there is logic in that too.
    This element is seen in military structure, genuine and false flag attacks, offices, factories, etc where the more intelligent or capable are usually given the higher posts. It can also be seen in the narration about Talut in the Quran.
    Also look into the situations of the early reverts to Islam in Makkah, who were making a huge leap with their lives. They were definitely using their brains and the logic that runs it when they said "sami'naa wa atua'naa (we hear and we obey). The thinking people of Madinah who first accepted islam, and others who submitted because they trusted their leaders sa'd ibn Mu'adh etc, the political converts who only submitted after the conquest of makkah when the sword was near to reaching their necks, they also used logic lol.
    Therefore my conclusion is that science is used by each individual in every situation. If they are honest, sincere, and wise, and have real and good data in the field in which they are making the decisions, they are likely to arrive at good answers.

    If a person says that science is only what is provable, and not what is arrived at through observation and critical analysis - including some assumptions - it would be useful to ask them how they know that they are going to die one day when they've never died. It is obvious that logic is followed, and that logic involves a process of assumptions.

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    وَأَقْسَمُواْ بِاللّهِ جَهْدَ أَيْمَانِهِمْ لَئِن جَاءتْهُمْ آيَةٌ لَّيُؤْمِنُنَّ بِهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا الآيَاتُ عِندَ اللّهِ وَمَا يُشْعِرُكُمْ أَنَّهَا إِذَا جَاءتْ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ {109

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    And they swear their strongest oaths by Allah, that if there came to them a sign, they would surely believe therein. Say: "Signs are but with Allah and what will make you (Muslims) perceive that (even) if it (the sign) came, they will not believe?"





    وَمَا تَأْتِيهِم مِّنْ آيَةٍ مِّنْ آيَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ إِلاَّ كَانُواْ عَنْهَا مُعْرِضِينَ {4

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    And never an Ayah (sign) comes to them from the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of their Lord, but that they have been turning away from it.



    فَقَدْ كَذَّبُواْ بِالْحَقِّ لَمَّا جَاءهُمْ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِيهِمْ أَنبَاء مَا كَانُواْ بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ {5

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    Indeed, they rejected the truth (the Qur'an and Muhammad SAW) when it came to them, but there will come to them the news of that which they used to mock at.

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    Here's an interesting one, makes a person wonder about priorities, and how decisions are sometimes required:

    Formation
    Main articles: Origin of the Moon and Giant impact hypothesis

    Several mechanisms have been proposed for the Moon's formation 4.51 billion years ago,[f] and some 60 million years after the origin of the Solar System.[19] These mechanisms included the fission of the Moon from Earth's crust through centrifugal force[20] (which would require too great an initial spin of Earth),[21] the gravitational capture of a pre-formed Moon[22] (which would require an unfeasibly extended atmosphere of Earth to dissipate the energy of the passing Moon),[21] and the co-formation of Earth and the Moon together in the primordial accretion disk (which does not explain the depletion of metals in the Moon).[21] These hypotheses also cannot account for the high angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system.[23]

    The prevailing hypothesis is that the Earth–Moon system formed as a result of the impact of a Mars-sized body (named Theia) with the proto-Earth (giant impact), that blasted material into orbit about the Earth that then accreted to form the present Earth-Moon system.[24][25]

    The far side of the Moon has a crust that is 30 mi (48 km) thicker than the near side of the Moon. This is thought to be due to the Moon having been amalgamated from two different bodies.

    This hypothesis, although not perfect, perhaps best explains the evidence. Eighteen months prior to an October 1984 conference on lunar origins, Bill Hartmann, Roger Phillips, and Jeff Taylor challenged fellow lunar scientists: "You have eighteen months. Go back to your Apollo data, go back to your computer, do whatever you have to, but make up your mind. Don't come to our conference unless you have something to say about the Moon's birth."


    At the 1984 conference at Kona, Hawaii, the giant impact hypothesis emerged as the most popular.

    Before the conference, there were partisans of the three "traditional" theories, plus a few people who were starting to take the giant impact seriously, and there was a huge apathetic middle who didn’t think the debate would ever be resolved.
    Afterward there were essentially only two groups: the giant impact camp and the agnostics.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
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