I don't understand why men are allowed to dress fashionably, style their hair, are able to show their body except for their awrah and be able to sing and dance while women can't wear minimal makeup, have to wear baggy clothes, their clothes have to be unfashionable and dark, can't speak loudly or laugh in public, they can't sing, recite or dance either.
Why do women need to hide themselves so much when men don't?
The most valuables are always kept , guarded safely . Say Money are kept in a double layered purse or into the safety lockers and so are Jewelry are safe guarded and are not exposed in places of danger .
So women in Islam is the basis of a good peaceful family which makes a peaceful state . So Islam VALUES them too Much. And a Hadith said something like there's paradise and hell in this world too. if a man gets a pious righteous wife its a paradise for him & a bad wife is a hell in this world itself.
The most valuables are always kept , guarded safely . Say Money are kept in a double layered purse or into the safety lockers and so are Jewelry are safe guarded and are not exposed in places of danger .
So women in Islam is the basis of a good peaceful family which makes a peaceful state . So Islam VALUES them too Much. And a Hadith said something like there's paradise and hell in this world too. if a man gets a pious righteous wife its a paradise for him & a bad wife is a hell in this world itself.
People keep saying that it's because women are supposed to be protected, but how is it a good thing if it becomes difficult to go about our daily lives without having to worry about so many things. I'm sure if a man looked good, girls would look at him and be attracted. Why is it different if it's a woman?
Yes Allah has made Islam Easy to practise but we took it to extremes. women are allowed to go for their needs of their families to market etc but should be in hijab but must avoid idle or vain loitering etc.
Men and women are different in many ways and Allah , the Creator, The All wise understands about us more than we could understand about ourselves
Noble Quran 67:14 '' Should not HeWho has created know? And He is the Most Kind and Courteous (to His slaves) All-Aware (of everything).
Also, men are supposed to be dressing according to the Sunnah. Walking around bare-headed outside is against the Sunnah, so for a man to "style his hair" is pointless, and if it is referring to the effeminate hairstyles males have adopted these days from the Kuffaar, then that is even worse.
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Also, men are supposed to be dressing according to the Sunnah. Walking around bare-headed outside is against the Sunnah, so for a man to "style his hair" is pointless, and if it is referring to the effeminate hairstyles males have adopted these days from the Kuffaar, then that is even worse.
I don't understand why men are allowed to dress fashionably, style their hair, are able to show their body except for their awrah and be able to sing and dance while women can't wear minimal makeup, have to wear baggy clothes, their clothes have to be unfashionable and dark, can't speak loudly or laugh in public, they can't sing, recite or dance either.
Why do women need to hide themselves so much when men don't?
Asalaamualaykum :
All the things that you listed as permissible for a man is ACTUALLY NOT in Islam.
Lets go one by one:
- Dress Fashionably ( This is only permissible if there is modesty in the clothing - Todays fashion of tight clothing is also disliked in islam as even if a man is covered, it is in his best interest that he has taqwa and modesty in his dress)
- Style hair: Certain hairstyles are disliked in islam. So there is a limitation.
- To show the body itself needs good reason even-though the awrah is from navel to knee. Even in hottest countries you will never find a man praying in Jamaah exposing even the permissible awrah.
It is unfortunate that today Muslim men have forgotten the ethics of dressing as much as woman have forgotten it. We all need to make an effort.
The general failure of any gender to practice the Sunnah is no excuse for the other gender to abandon the Sunnah.
I don't understand why men are allowed to dress fashionably, style their hair, are able to show their body except for their awrah and be able to sing and dance while women can't wear minimal makeup, have to wear baggy clothes, their clothes have to be unfashionable and dark, can't speak loudly or laugh in public, they can't sing, recite or dance either.
Why do women need to hide themselves so much when men don't?
I don't feel restricted. Women can dress fashionably as long as it's modest dress. It doesn't have to be dark, but it's better not to draw attention to one's self. And anyone who speaks loudly in public is obnoxious and lacks common courtesy. In the end, what is generally preferred for a woman, is also preferred for a man, but keep in mind that women are not men so let's stop comparing ourselves to them. The #1 reason why women have to cover themselves is because Allah ordained us to, and everything resulting from that is both a benefit and a blessing. If we keep focusing on the people around us then we lose focus on ourselves and we have a lot to improve within ourselves before putting all of our efforts into things that don't really matter like singing and wearing makeup.
Thank you guys for clearing things up for me. I don't have a problem with the hijab, I just want everyone to be treated equally. I want to dress fashionably (loose shirt and jeans) but I always get replies like "Pants aren't allowed for women" or "You're supposed to wear dark baggy clothes".
The points you mentioned about men have already been addressed. Men should also dress modestly. A HUMAN with dignity and honor clothes himself/herself properly.
I think the main reason you find it "unfair" is because of the western ideas of equality. We should be able to do the same things men do right? Actually, that's not quite true. We are different creatures with different needs. If we all had the same rules and regulations, it would be very unfair.
Equality and Equity are not the same thing. Maybe if you internalize this and learn to appreciate and love the creation that you are, it won't feel so negative for you, insha'Allah.
Also, nobody said covering up meant always wearing black or dull colors. Pick your color according to your surroundings as to not be singled out. I find that in big cities or in large crowds here in north america, wearing all black makes one stick out like a sore thumb lol. My husband actually encouraged me to choose other abaya colors... it took me a while because I'm an all black type of gal, even before Islam
Thank you guys for clearing things up for me. I don't have a problem with the hijab, I just want everyone to be treated equally. I want to dress fashionably (loose shirt and jeans) but I always get replies like "Pants aren't allowed for women" or "You're supposed to wear dark baggy clothes".
Sis your still not allowed to wear jeans; they are tight fit right?, so they'll make you look more 'attractive'?; you get me sis?
basically the women are to help men not to look at them so they have to dress modestly
Sis your still not allowed to wear jeans; they are tight fit right?, so they'll make you look more 'attractive'?; you get me sis?
basically the women are to help men not to look at them so they have to dress modestly
No, it isn't a woman's job to help men not look at them. That is the responsibility of the man alone.
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas (radi Allahu anhu): "Al-Fadl bin Abbas rode behind Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) as his companion rider on the back portion of his she-camel on the day of Nahr (slaughtering of sacrifice, 10th Dhul-Hijja) and Al-Fadl was a handsome man. The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) stopped to give the people verdicts (regarding their matters). In the meantime, a beautiful woman from the tribe of Khatham came, asking the verdict of Allah's Messenger. Al-Fadl started looking at her as her beauty attracted him. The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) looked behind while Al-Fadl was looking at her; so the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) held out his hand backwards and caught the chin of Al-Fadl and turned his face (to the other side) in order that he should not gaze at her. She said, 'O Allah's Messenger! The obligation of performing Hajj enjoined by Allah on his worshippers has become due (compulsory) on my father who is an old man and who cannot sit firmly on the riding animal. Will it be sufficient that I perform Hajj on his behalf?' He said, 'Yes.'" [Sahih Bukhari]
This hadith gives several important rulings. One is that the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) acted himself, and made other men act, on Allah's orders to lower their gazes. [Quran 24: 27-29] We see in this hadith, that the Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) listened to the woman's question and answered it while not looking at her. He also turned the face of his cousin to the side who had been staring at the woman's beautiful face. He (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) did not ask the woman to cover her face.
A woman's dress code is to protect herself and honor herself. It does help the society as whole, but that's if MEN also follow their dress code and adhere to their rules and regulations.
I remember when I was not muslim and men would whistle or make it known they were looking at me (I was only a young girl!). It was THE WORST feeling ever. I felt very violated and humiliated that they were glancing at me without my consent. That's why when I discovered the abaya, there was no looking back! Alhamdullilah.
Dirty men are going to be dirty, whether a woman is covered or not!
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Also, men are supposed to be dressing according to the Sunnah. Walking around bare-headed outside is against the Sunnah, so for a man to "style his hair" is pointless, and if it is referring to the effeminate hairstyles males have adopted these days from the Kuffaar, then that is even worse.
Yes we support the covering of head but mostly ahle hadith who came to clear of Biddah claim that nabi did keep his head uncovered SOMETIMES as in umrah, haj and also some hadiths point out that he left Aysha to comb from his adjoining room just entering his blessed head his/her room . So forcing NOT TO KEEP OPEN HEAD AT ALL (100%) IS against the sunnah and a biddah . so they refer keeping 75 % closed and at time should be open too as deen is not we derive but what we see from prophet
Sis your still not allowed to wear jeans; they are tight fit right?, so they'll make you look more 'attractive'?; you get me sis?
basically the women are to help men not to look at them so they have to dress modestly
Though a Sister does not agree to this ( i clicked ''like' for her other part of the post of dirty looks ) Bro, You are correct on this issue since we see these in our books as guidelines for women.
1) Not to talk ghair maghram men softly ( fascinating them)
2) To avoid walking creating sounds with their jewels (it mean like that worn on foot that Arabs and from sub continent use it )
3) To avoid using perfumes that flows through into the men ( If she does it inside home or women congregation its not barred )
So Islam is very precise, subhanallah from THE ALL WISE, Allah .
Clapping sound does not happen untill both palms co operate is a Thai proverb here so its true BOTH must co operate to avoiding evil and both must co operate to adjoin virtues. Men must not talk indirectly to a woman tempting her imo & vice versa too and many more since we all understand as we are grown up.
The points you mentioned about men have already been addressed. Men should also dress modestly. A HUMAN with dignity and honor clothes himself/herself properly.
I think the main reason you find it "unfair" is because of the western ideas of equality. We should be able to do the same things men do right? Actually, that's not quite true. We are different creatures with different needs. If we all had the same rules and regulations, it would be very unfair.
Equality and Equity are not the same thing. Maybe if you internalize this and learn to appreciate and love the creation that you are, it won't feel so negative for you, insha'Allah.
Also, nobody said covering up meant always wearing black or dull colors. Pick your color according to your surroundings as to not be singled out. I find that in big cities or in large crowds here in north america, wearing all black makes one stick out like a sore thumb lol. My husband actually encouraged me to choose other abaya colors... it took me a while because I'm an all black type of gal, even before Islam
Though a Sister does not agree to this ( i clicked ''like' for her other part of the post of dirty looks ) Bro, You are correct on this issue since we see these in our books as guidelines for women.
1) Not to talk ghair maghram men softly ( fascinating them)
2) To avoid walking creating sounds with their jewels (it mean like that worn on foot that Arabs and from sub continent use it )
3) To avoid using perfumes that flows through into the men ( If she does it inside home or women congregation its not barred )
So Islam is very precise, subhanallah from THE ALL WISE, Allah .
Clapping sound does not happen untill both palms co operate is a Thai proverb here so its true BOTH must co operate to avoiding evil and both must co operate to adjoin virtues. Men must not talk indirectly to a woman intimidating her imo & vice versa too and many more since we all understand as we are grown up.
I haven't come across Muslim men who dress modestly all the time, they wear tight shirts, jeans and lots of perfume so I wasn't aware of the fact that men had to dress modestly too. Thank you for your reply.
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did keep his head uncovered SOMETIMES as in umrah, haj and also some hadiths point out that he left Aysha to comb from his adjoining room just entering his blessed head his/her room . So forcing NOT TO KEEP OPEN HEAD AT ALL (100%) IS against the sunnah and a biddah . so they refer keeping 75 % closed and at time should be open too as deen is not we derive but what we see from prophet 
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