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    hey everyone, im Jason. im new here and i am not Muslim, I come from a different faith and i will not be trying to preach or convert anyone.

    i am tired of hearing on tv, my government and in almost every church how Muslims are the enemy, the devil, want to kill us all and all the rest. I would like to know more about Islam, the truth, and i would like to hear it from Muslim people, not the ones that hate Muslim people.

    why is there so much anti Muslim propaganda in the US and Europe?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    are you insane???? or just ill-informed? ISIS and al qaeda "heavily funded, armed and trained by the US"??????? one must look at the wrongs in one's own community before blaming everybody else's but their own.....
    here is a pic of zbigniew brzezinski and bin laden. whats the US Nat security adviser doing with an al qaeda leader?
    brzezinski was one of the founders of the trilateral commission. the TC job supposedly is to strengthen relations with foreign countries but more than likely their only purpose is to spread western influence and capatilism in the east and middle east.

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    Re: frustrated with Islam hate

    format_quote Originally Posted by jaybird View Post
    here is a pic of zbigniew brzezinski and bin laden. whats the US Nat security adviser doing with an al qaeda leader?
    brzezinski was one of the founders of the trilateral commission. the TC job supposedly is to strengthen relations with foreign countries but more than likely their only purpose is to spread western influence and capatilism in the east and middle east.

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    You say you are not a Muslim but Thank God you yourself see what is going on. Yet many Muslims themselves are blind of the truth.

    Just because somebody saying they are Muslim doesn't mean they know the truth. Many Muslims have a disease in their hearts to not want to look at facts and ask question. Because when doing exactly that their whole belief of seeing a certain individual as a hero from their childhood would rather be shattered for example.

    I like you as you stand stand up to speak out the truth no matter who the criminals might be.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    You say you are not a Muslim but Thank God you yourself see what is going on. Yet many Muslims themselves are blind of the truth.

    Just because somebody saying they are Muslim doesn't mean they know the truth. Many Muslims have a disease in their hearts to not want to look at facts and ask question. Because when doing exactly that their whole belief of seeing a certain individual as a hero from their childhood would rather be shattered for example.

    I like you as you stand stand up to speak out the truth no matter who the criminals might be.
    thank you for the kind words SP.

    I am not afraid to speak what i think but it took me a very long time to get over the fear of what other people might think.
    Jesus taught "ask, seek, knock". this is what i put my faith into. as long as i am seeking i dont worry about what other groups say. IMO to many Christians are lead by the group and not by Jesus.
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    Re: frustrated with Islam hate

    Greetings and peace be with you jaybird; and welcome tot he forum from another Christian,

    I believe we can all do something to build greater interfaith relations, we are all created by the same God and the same God hears all our prayers. I like stories like this one, our Bishop prayed in a mosque recently and was invited to speak, this was his message....


    MESSAGE TO MEMBERS OF THE ABU BAKR MOSQUE
    Dear Friends, I thank you for the huge joy and privilege of visiting your
    beautiful Abu Bakr mosque today. I am Bishop Philip Egan, the Catholic
    Bishop of Portsmouth. Originally I come from Manchester and so I do ask
    your prayers for the people of that city, after the terrible bombing last
    week. But I live in Portsmouth and our Diocese is a big one. It has
    235,000 Catholics. It covers the south coast along to Bournemouth and
    stretches north to Reading and Oxford. So on behalf of all Catholic
    Christians in this region, I offer you today our sincerest greetings and
    prayers for a Happy Ramadan. Ramadan Mubarak!
    This morning in Rome, our Pope, Pope Francis, has just sent a special
    message to all our Muslim friends across the world, to assure you of our
    prayers during this time of fasting, prayer and charity. The theme of his
    message is Care of our Common Home. For as Catholics, we are deeply
    concerned about the damage our modern lifestyles are causing to the
    environment in which we live, and also the disorder these lifestyles bring
    to our families and human relations. Both Muslims and Catholics believe
    the Earth is holy; it belongs to God. It’s His work and so we must treat it
    with respect. So let us pray that the ecological crisis humanity is facing
    will call everyone in the world to a profound interior conversion, and to a
    renewed care for the Earth, our common home.
    Let me add one more thought. Great Britain is a highly secular society.
    Yet you and I, Muslims and Christians, we are people of religion, faith and
    spirituality. We believe in God, and we believe that every human being is
    called to know Him, serve Him and love Him, to worship Him and to
    respect Him, and to find in Him ultimate happiness. It’s our task to
    witness to this in society, so that other people, those who say they have
    no religion, those who say they’re not sure, those who are lost or on the
    margins, can find their way home to Him. This is why I’d like to ask you
    to pray also for us Christians, as we pray for you. Together, we have an
    important task in society and so we need to be strong, solid, authentic in
    our religion: in a word, holy. Indeed, it’s crucial for the well-being and the
    future of our land, and something to think about as we prepare for the
    General Election next week.
    So thank you for listening. Thank you for your kind and warm welcome.
    Thank you for giving me the enormous joy and privilege of saying these
    few words to you in your Abu Bakr mosque. Ramadan Mubarak! Please
    pray for me, and for the Catholic community here in Southampton and
    across our whole diocese. We are praying for you

    http://www.portsmouthdiocese.org.uk/...outhampton.pdf

    Blessings,
    Eric
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    format_quote Originally Posted by jaybird View Post
    thank you for the kind words SP.

    I am not afraid to speak what i think but it took me a very long time to get over the fear of what other people might think.
    Jesus taught "ask, seek, knock". this is what i put my faith into. as long as i am seeking i dont worry about what other groups say. IMO to many Christians are lead by the group and not by Jesus.
    What others think negative of you or think negative about you when you speak the truth has equal value as the bottom of your shoe.

    The people who praise you when you speak the truth will stand by you the people although in this day and age aren't that many. The people who curse you for speaking the truth they will end up for sure in their own grave and the such evil beings will deserve what they worked for, for not speaking the truth.

    Never get your heart become filthy. God is the almighty not some dictator or politician and God doesn't like people who are cowards or rather sell their own religion for some worldy gain (riches). What will riches benefit you if you are under the dirt. So good job brother. I see you more of my true brother than many other Muslims and God is my witness for saying this.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you jaybird; and welcome tot he forum from another Christian,

    I believe we can all do something to build greater interfaith relations, we are all created by the same God and the same God hears all our prayers. I like stories like this one, our Bishop prayed in a mosque recently and was invited to speak, this was his message....


    MESSAGE TO MEMBERS OF THE ABU BAKR MOSQUE
    Dear Friends, I thank you for the huge joy and privilege of visiting your
    beautiful Abu Bakr mosque today. I am Bishop Philip Egan, the Catholic
    Bishop of Portsmouth. Originally I come from Manchester and so I do ask
    your prayers for the people of that city, after the terrible bombing last
    week. But I live in Portsmouth and our Diocese is a big one. It has
    235,000 Catholics. It covers the south coast along to Bournemouth and
    stretches north to Reading and Oxford. So on behalf of all Catholic
    Christians in this region, I offer you today our sincerest greetings and
    prayers for a Happy Ramadan. Ramadan Mubarak!
    This morning in Rome, our Pope, Pope Francis, has just sent a special
    message to all our Muslim friends across the world, to assure you of our
    prayers during this time of fasting, prayer and charity. The theme of his
    message is Care of our Common Home. For as Catholics, we are deeply
    concerned about the damage our modern lifestyles are causing to the
    environment in which we live, and also the disorder these lifestyles bring
    to our families and human relations. Both Muslims and Catholics believe
    the Earth is holy; it belongs to God. It’s His work and so we must treat it
    with respect. So let us pray that the ecological crisis humanity is facing
    will call everyone in the world to a profound interior conversion, and to a
    renewed care for the Earth, our common home.
    Let me add one more thought. Great Britain is a highly secular society.
    Yet you and I, Muslims and Christians, we are people of religion, faith and
    spirituality. We believe in God, and we believe that every human being is
    called to know Him, serve Him and love Him, to worship Him and to
    respect Him, and to find in Him ultimate happiness. It’s our task to
    witness to this in society, so that other people, those who say they have
    no religion, those who say they’re not sure, those who are lost or on the
    margins, can find their way home to Him. This is why I’d like to ask you
    to pray also for us Christians, as we pray for you. Together, we have an
    important task in society and so we need to be strong, solid, authentic in
    our religion: in a word, holy. Indeed, it’s crucial for the well-being and the
    future of our land, and something to think about as we prepare for the
    General Election next week.
    So thank you for listening. Thank you for your kind and warm welcome.
    Thank you for giving me the enormous joy and privilege of saying these
    few words to you in your Abu Bakr mosque. Ramadan Mubarak! Please
    pray for me, and for the Catholic community here in Southampton and
    across our whole diocese. We are praying for you

    http://www.portsmouthdiocese.org.uk/...outhampton.pdf

    Blessings,
    Eric
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    What others think negative of you or think negative about you when you speak the truth has equal value as the bottom of your shoe.
    makes me think of Confucius when he said those things are of the clouds.

    The people who praise you when you speak the truth will stand by you the people although in this day and age aren't that many. The people who curse you for speaking the truth they will end up for sure in their own grave and the such evil beings will deserve what they worked for, for not speaking the truth.

    Never get your heart become filthy. God is the almighty not some dictator or politician and God doesn't like people who are cowards or rather sell their own religion for some worldy gain (riches). What will riches benefit you if you are under the dirt. So good job brother. I see you more of my true brother than many other Muslims and God is my witness for saying this.
    what other people think is a big part of the US culture. our leaders act as if they care nothing of what we think but it couldnt be further from the truth. all of our TV, newspapers, magazines are all owned by a very small number of companies and they spend a great deal of time and money to control the information the people hear. there is a reason they call it television "programming" this is why so many here think Muslims are going to kill them at any given moment, yet everyone of these same people have met a Muslim in the real world and they were nothing like that. i live in a very rural area and i see Muslims all the time, not one has tried to harm me. if Muslims are really trying to kill everyone and full of violence, where are these Muslims? i want to see them, with my eyes, not TV. i have many friends, family, coworkers, etc and not once have i heard one of them saying, "my mom was attacked by Muslims, my wife was killed by Muslims, my cousin came home and Muslims jumped him at his front door." but thats the thing, these stories do not exist, if what they said on tv were true, you could not go anywhere without hearing about muslim attacks. the only ones telling these stories didnt get the story from a real person, they heard it on tv. tv is not real.

    i am happy to be your brother brother. praise the Most High.
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    welcome Jaybird!

    the anti-muslim propaganda is unfortunately the result of an unfounded theory the elite follow; natural selection, survival of the fittest, strong preys on weak, etc,; they think this is the 'natural way' and there is noting wrong with it so muslims are 'lawful game' as far as their concerned to make it easy to grab our resources!
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    Re: frustrated with Islam hate

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    welcome Jaybird!

    the anti-muslim propaganda is unfortunately the result of an unfounded theory the elite follow; natural selection, survival of the fittest, strong preys ems with this theory, the slavic people of eastern europe were the first people the western european people oppressed, then you have the Irish people they have been oppressed for two thousand years or more and they dont get whiter than Irish. on weak, etc,; they think this is the 'natural way' and there is noting wrong with it so muslims are 'lawful game' as far as their concerned to make it easy to grab our resources!
    i always wondered if it was a race thing. the most oppressed people in the world are always the non white places, middle east, latin/south america, africa. but then there are problems with this. the first european slaves were the slavic people of eastern europe, then you have the Irish, they have been fighting for their freedom for two thousand years or more, and they are the whitest people ever.
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