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    Would this make sense ? (OP)


    First things first I got many diseases physically and mentally and I got a question I ask you my brothers kindly to help me. Also I want to mention I am a Muslim and I am NOT the enemy of Allah (it might seem to you like this)
    Allah knows everything ? Right
    Allah gives us a free will ? Right
    Would it make sense if Allah creates a man with a disease that that man is suffering from so much that that man ends up killing himself and entering Jahannam because of suicide ?
    Now you tell me we have a free will, yes I know that but if Allah knews that man would kill himself in the future why allah creates that man anyway with a born disease knowing that that man would kill himself ? Now obviously that man cant be held accountable for a disease he was born with ! I am so confused and I fear killing myself

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    Yea I understand and I'm sorry that people say mean things to you. Sometimes a person says something so many times and you start to believe it. But you know what? It's not true. You're alive for a reason, even if you don't see it now. If Allah wanted you to die, your soul would have already returned to Him. Don't isolate yourself, challenge everyone and go and do wonderful things with your life. It's YOUR life. Don't ever give anyone the power to make you feel miserable. No one can restrict you from anything. Since you know what it feels like to be so down, I bet you can help a lot of people. You just have to overcome the feeling that you're cursed. You are blessed in so many ways. Focus on your blessings bro and take it one day at a time. Before you know it, all of this wouldn't have mattered and you're going to feel silly for feeling so down.
    I promise bro I try but if I just cant bear it anymore there is a possibility of Allah forgiving suicide right ? I just want to be safe

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

    Quranic Verse 1:-"Don't kill yourself. No doubt Allah (swt) is merciful and anyone who does so, will be pushed in fire. And it is easy for Allah (swt)." (Nisa: 4:29, 4:30)

    Quranic Verse 2:-"We are property of Allah (swt) and we will return to Allah (swt) one day." (Baqra 2:156)

    Quranic Verse 3:-"Don't' kill yourself with your own hands" (Baqra 2:195)

    ..there are a few more but you consider yourself not an enemy of allah swt.

    ...so i guess the answer to your question is no.. its not an option.
    ..
    ..
    Raining cats and dogs here..

    Only fools and beggers about.
    Last edited by M.I.A.; 10-21-2017 at 04:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    Quranic Verse 1:-"Don't kill yourself. No doubt Allah (swt) is merciful and anyone who does so, will be pushed in fire. And it is easy for Allah (swt)." (Nisa: 4:29, 4:30)

    Quranic Verse 2:-"We are property of Allah (swt) and we will return to Allah (swt) one day." (Baqra 2:156)

    Quranic Verse 3:-"Don't' kill yourself with your own hands" (Baqra 2:195)

    ..there are a few more but you consider yourself not an enemy of allah swt.

    ...so i guess the answer to your question is no.. its not an option.
    Thanks bro for the references but you mentioned you lived in the desert so what if you dyed there out of thirst ? Werent you fearing that, that thirst might be consideres as suicide from Allah as you decided to live in the desert ?

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

    Quote Originally Posted by amine21 View Post
    I promise bro I try but if I just cant bear it anymore there is a possibility of Allah forgiving suicide right ? I just want to be safe
    How can you be forgiven for something you are no longer alive to ask forgiveness for?

    Get the thoughts of suicide outside of your head. Does your family know how you feel?
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    D e a t h

    is the easiest
    of all things after it
    ; ;

    the hardest
    of all things before it

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    How can you be forgiven for something you are no longer alive to ask forgiveness for?

    Get the thoughts of suicide outside of your head. Does your family know how you feel?
    Yeah they dont really care

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    Quote Originally Posted by amine21 View Post
    Thanks bro for the references but you mentioned you lived in the desert so what if you dyed there out of thirst ? Werent you fearing that, that thirst might be consideres as suicide from Allah as you decided to live in the desert ?
    Yeah.. imagine the first batch of logos printed with an error..

    Mfw o_o

    ..thats what ya get for doing it yourself.

    ..dessert...

    No but really.. rain and wind.. a lady asking for free coffee and a man asking for free sweets.

    Im going nuts!

    ...he also asked me for a job but.. hes asking in the wrong place..

    Probably.


    Make use of your time.. try new things...

    ...Halal things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    Yeah.. imagine the first batch of logos printed with an error..

    Mfw o_o

    ..thats what ya get for doing it yourself.

    ..dessert...

    No but really.. rain and wind.. a lady asking for free coffee and a man asking for free sweets.

    Im going nuts!
    Lol I dont understand your way of speaking

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

    Quote Originally Posted by amine21 View Post
    Yeah they dont really care
    Look, i know this man who got into mumtiple crashes, hes confined to a wheel chair with many limbs missing but hes still very happy. There was this girl who got her gace burned, everyone made fun of her till the point where she wanted to commit suicide, but then she found hope, and she met others like her, my point is many many people suffer, are riduculed and made fun of, its part of life, it isnt suppose to be easy and your not the only one, many of these people have inspirational stories and they inspire others too. Reach out to those like you because your not alone. Allah tests us in many ways and if you endure this you could a have a great reward in the end. If a person who had suffered the most in this life were dipped in jannah, they wouldnt even remember there struggles of dunyah. Remind yourself if the end goal. Remind yourself that in jannah, you wont have this disease, that life will be perfect there, make that your motivation, and i hope that Allah eases for you your pain and rewards you for your patience in the hereafter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happymuslim View Post
    Look, i know this man who got into mumtiple crashes, hes confined to a wheel chair with many limbs missing but hes still very happy. There was this girl who got her gace burned, everyone made fun of her till the point where she wanted to commit suicide, but then she found hope, and she met others like her, my point is many many people suffer, are riduculed and made fun of, its part of life, it isnt suppose to be easy and your not the only one, many of these people have inspirational stories and they inspire others too. Reach out to those like you because your not alone. Allah tests us in many ways and if you endure this you could a have a great reward in the end. If a person who had suffered the most in this life were dipped in jannah, they wouldnt even remember there struggles of dunyah. Remind yourself if the end goal. Remind yourself that in jannah, you wont have this disease, that life will be perfect there, make that your motivation, and i hope that Allah eases for you your pain and rewards you for your patience in the hereafter.
    Beautiful words

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    Re: Would this make sense ?

    Quote Originally Posted by amine21 View Post
    Lol I dont understand your way of speaking
    Welcome!!

    ..i am m.i.a.

    ...thank you.

    I hope you find what you need to get you through..

    And rectify yourself.


    I just met a Somalian man and he said people here always complain about the weather..

    He said back in somalia it sometimes doesnt rain for six months at a time.

    Alhamdulillah..

    I dont think anybody has a right to be ungrateful.
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