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    why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?
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    Why shirk is considered major sin

    Leave me alone. Let me serve this ummah anonymously.
    Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart."(verse 17:81)

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mahir Adnan View Post
    I think, if I were a god and if I had a creation.I wouldn't mind if anybody doesn't worship me. Why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?
    You better be careful of what you say. You are flirting with kufr.
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    "When a person sees the road as too long, he weakens in his walk." - Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mahir Adnan View Post
    I think, if I were a god and if I had a creation.I wouldn't mind if anybody doesn't worship me. Why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?
    Astaghfirullah...!

    What you've written is kufr.
    Do tawba.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mahir Adnan View Post
    why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?


    this sounds like "why Allah Created human beings and the Universe", why Allah Gave you two eyes and two ears instead of five eyes or eight legs, why Allah is Merciful and such many other things.. why you and anyone else should know? Is this necessary at all?
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    Maybe its because our purpose on this earth is to worship Allah. We cant worship Allah properly if we're commiting shirk. Theres somethings we just have to accept, we may not be able to understand them but we just have to accept it.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    Originally Posted by Mahir Adnan: "I think, if I were a god and if I had a creation.I wouldn't mind if anybody doesn't worship me. Why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?"
    You are saying "If i were a mother and if i had a child. I would not mind if my child play with fire and die. Why Mother is so serious about Fire? Whats the reason to stop her child from playing with fire? Do you have any idea?
    The concept of God is different than your limited knowledge. God is all about "kun faya kun". He loves you more than 72 mothers, Animals, plants, humans and this whole universe is design by under one system. No one can break or escape that system. For example "Death". Death: "Every soul shall taste death" (al-Imran 3:185)
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    I too had this question, and then I got an answer that made sense to me hope it does to you too.

    On many Islamic boards I have found keyboard worriors jump to say thats haram bro say tauba! yada yada but they never give you an answer.


    The reason shirk is a major is because it involves denying the very essence of Allah and he is the ultimate truth. By ascribing partners to Allah you are taking away an attribute of his.

    You will find this video useful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcgPrhgQhA
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    You would be offended if your child called someone else father instead of you. Its something like that.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    You would be offended if your child called someone else father instead of you. Its something like that.
    if your son did that to you, would you throw him in hellfire for eternity?
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by rebelutionary View Post
    if your son did that to you, would you throw him in hellfire for eternity?
    I wouldnt because I am not “God”. Thats a punishment only God can give. However, I would ofcourse punish him.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    I wouldnt because I am not “God”. Thats a punishment only God can give. However, I would ofcourse punish him.
    Wheres the love?
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by rebelutionary View Post
    Wheres the love?
    Thats just an example. The relationship between God and man is different from all of the relationships we have in this world. Though has still some similarities. For example what would you do if your child did it? Maybe you would slap on his face. Woulnt you do? So you cant tell that you are more merciful than God. You still punished him.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    @rebelutionary :

    When the punishment of shirk is clearly mentioned in holy books, then it is only your impudence and ignorance for imputing it to God.

    Despite knowing everything you challenge God, then, why you shouldn't be punished...?

    Do you want to be honoured for this disloyalty and obstinacy..?
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Thats just an example. The relationship between God and man is different from all of the relationships we have in this world. Though has still some similarities. For example what would you do if your child did it? Maybe you would slap on his face. Woulnt you do? So you cant tell that you are more merciful than God. You still punished him.

    God says he loves his banda more than a mother loves her child.

    Every prophet came with a miracle so people at that time saw it first hand, what do we get to see? The way science has advanced and the way the religious leaders treat science most people are drawn towards science as opposed to religion. Given all this I find it profoundly harsh! During the last prophets time the moon was split and other miracles were shown, in our time what to we see?

    Most people question the existence of god profoundly when life gets really hard for them, so how does this work? I am gonna get pushed to the brink of disbelief and then get punished for doing it. How is this fair or just? because someone else who had a happy go lucky life did not face such a crisis hence the question of disbelief doesn't even arise and he gets to pass the test with flying colors, how is that fair?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    @rebelutionary:

    When the punishment of shirk is clearly mentioned in holy books, then it is only your impudence and ignorance for imputing it to God.

    Despite knowing everything you challenge God, then, why you shouldn't be punished...?

    Do you want to be honoured for this disloyalty and obstinacy..?

    How do you prove that god is there? you cant prove it can you


    you talk like a religious zealot!
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by rebelutionary View Post
    God says he loves his banda more than a mother loves her child.

    Every prophet came with a miracle so people at that time saw it first hand, what do we get to see? The way science has advanced and the way the religious leaders treat science most people are drawn towards science as opposed to religion. Given all this I find it profoundly harsh! During the last prophets time the moon was split and other miracles were shown, in our time what to we see?

    Most people question the existence of god profoundly when life gets really hard for them, so how does this work? I am gonna get pushed to the brink of disbelief and then get punished for doing it. How is this fair or just? because someone else who had a happy go lucky life did not face such a crisis hence the question of disbelief doesn't even arise and he gets to pass the test with flying colors, how is that fair?

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    How do you prove that god is there? you cant prove it can you


    you talk like a religious zealot!
    and you talk like an irreligious zealot...!

    Do you really exist...?

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    and you talk like an irreligious zealot...!

    Do you really exist...?
    What if I don't exist and am just a voice in your head?

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by rebelutionary View Post
    God says he loves his banda more than a mother loves her child.

    Every prophet came with a miracle so people at that time saw it first hand, what do we get to see? The way science has advanced and the way the religious leaders treat science most people are drawn towards science as opposed to religion. Given all this I find it profoundly harsh! During the last prophets time the moon was split and other miracles were shown, in our time what to we see?

    Most people question the existence of god profoundly when life gets really hard for them, so how does this work? I am gonna get pushed to the brink of disbelief and then get punished for doing it. How is this fair or just? because someone else who had a happy go lucky life did not face such a crisis hence the question of disbelief doesn't even arise and he gets to pass the test with flying colors, how is that fair?

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    How do you prove that god is there? you cant prove it can you


    you talk like a religious zealot!
    format_quote Originally Posted by rebelutionary View Post
    What if I don't exist and am just a voice in your head?
    and Quran is the Kalam (speech) of Allah, you don't hear.

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mahir Adnan View Post
    why Allah is so serious about shirk? what's the reason? do you have any idea?
    Its Falsehood and denies the Ultimate Truth why you were here.
    Last edited by Zafran; 03-20-2018 at 06:18 PM.
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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

    They merely:
    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
    And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim

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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    W slam.
    God purifies the world without any help for the benefit of human beings, and with great blessings, if there is no need for any help, then it makes its share in worship.
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    Re: Why shirk is considered major sin

    jajhakallah khair, I have come up with an explanation.suppose,you receive your salary from "MICROSOFT ". but, in reality, you are just planning to elevate "APPLE" Company. what would "microsoft do,if they come to know that you are cheating them?
    they would bring you before court.the court may fine you or put you in jail for several years.
    now think,Allah is feeding you,giving you rijik.and you are planning to destroy this Deen.you are helping other religion, satan & idol to defeat Islam. but,it's Allah who have kept you alive. you don't even give thanks to Him.what would Allah do to you in His court?
    He has the right to put you in jail too.
    Why shirk is considered major sin

    Leave me alone. Let me serve this ummah anonymously.
    Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart."(verse 17:81)


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