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    Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone. (OP)


    There is no need for an explanation.Few words will suffice,which are:
    If every woman in the world took a male relative with her outside and never left her house except that she has a male relative with her,will the number of rapes that occur daily not fall down by a mile?

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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    I dont see in this day and age with the motor car and areoplane in times of peace is the same as when the Prophet(pbuh) was alive during times of war where his enemies were around.
    I could drive my wife to the airport that has ott security where in less time it takes to cross a city by foot she could be the other side of/or in a different continet with less danger than walking across a city..She could get in safe transport and arrive with her family or friends safer than walking accross a city and in less time.
    Now i agree its good advice and better to have a guardian, especially if going on a spiritual journey together as man and wife or as a family, like a going on a pillgrimage, but the situation on simple travel has changed a great deal since the times of the Prophet (pbuh)..

    Allha puts these man made laws into prespective and explains why no man can create a law that will stand the test of time..I respect the haiths but find them problematic when men take something the Propet said then make a rule out of it for all people for all time when its not going to stand the test of time.
    And there are other rules that go against what the Prophet (pbuh) said, it seems the deeper i look much of whats called islam is man made, no offence, inshalla.

    If we could accept it as advice, fair enough, but when it can become an enforcable law, its a problem that will casue harrasment of women and trurn people away from the Truth that is Islam the salvation for mankind.

    "Unto me my work, and unto you your work. Ye are innocent of what I do, and I am innocent of what ye do"


    Then bring a surah like unto it, and call (for help) on all ye can besides Allah, if ye are truthful.39 Nay, but they denied that, the knowledge whereof they could not compass, and whereof the interpretation (in events) hath not yet come unto them.

    Only Allahas word can stand the test of time, if this rule was worthy He would of surley revealed it?
    No, this modern age is more corrupted than previous one, let alone the age of prophet s.a.w
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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    No, this modern age is more corrupted than previous one, let alone the age of prophet s.a.w
    You are most likley right and i would tend to agree , but my point was in many cases due to inventions like the motor car, busses , trains and areoplanes, travelling is safer but walking across a city might not be, and not all situations are the same..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umm♥Layth View Post
    The end times began when the prophet arrived. The corruption you speak of was something the prophet warned us about and is to be expected. It doesn't mean the religion itself is corrupted, it doesn't mean the Quran and Hadith were corrupted, rather, the mentality of people has been corrupted (hence the sects etc). People have been severely deceived (which is why usury is widespread and unavoidable today). You won't get very far in your eschatology studies (end time studies) without hadith.

    In order to figure out what time you are in today, you will need to accept the authority hadith has and learn to pair it up with Quran. Also, you may want to study the seerah so that you understand just how hadith and Quran go together. I'm a convert by the way, and I've been where you are.
    It never occured to me the end times came when the Prophet arrived, what makes you say that? i was thinking more along the lines of armeggedon and the reuturn of Jesus and the Djaal..
    And yes i agree the Koran and Hadiths cant be corrupted but the hearts of those who interprit them into legislation can be..As the Quran warns about.
    I try not to ignore the Hadiths, there is immense wisdom and knowlage in them..

    I know its extemely difficult but usury can be avoided, i have been meaning to ask on this forum how Islam deals with this problem.

    And thanks for your reply and for mentioning the Seerah..Are there many of those translated into English?
    Which ones would you reccomend?

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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    You are most likley right and i would tend to agree , but my point was in many cases due to inventions like the motor car, busses , trains and areoplanes, travelling is safer but walking across a city might not be, and not all situations are the same..

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    It never occured to me the end times came when the Prophet arrived, what makes you say that? i was thinking more along the lines of armeggedon and the reuturn of Jesus and the Djaal..
    And yes i agree the Koran and Hadiths cant be corrupted but the hearts of those who interprit them into legislation can be..As the Quran warns about.
    I try not to ignore the Hadiths, there is immense wisdom and knowlage in them..

    I know its extemely difficult but usury can be avoided, i have been meaning to ask on this forum how Islam deals with this problem.

    And thanks for your reply and for mentioning the Seerah..Are there many of those translated into English?
    Which ones would you reccomend?
    even in car, bus and other vehicles women aren't safe. They have been raped there too. However, I've not heard of rape in aeroplane

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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post

    And thanks for your reply and for mentioning the Seerah..Are there many of those translated into English?
    Which ones would you reccomend?
    The sealed nectar is pretty good and popular.
    https://www.kalamullah.com/sealed-nectar.html

    Quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    even in car, bus and other vehicles women aren't safe. They have been raped there too. However, I've not heard of rape in aeroplane
    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/0...to-settle.html

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...b7ad629e4920eb

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.77a41c89df5a

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/27/polit...hts/index.html

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/indi...de-him-1796089

    https://qz.com/533256/the-disturbing...-on-airplanes/
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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    You are most likley right and i would tend to agree , but my point was in many cases due to inventions like the motor car, busses , trains and areoplanes, travelling is safer but walking across a city might not be, and not all situations are the same..

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    It never occured to me the end times came when the Prophet arrived, what makes you say that? i was thinking more along the lines of armeggedon and the reuturn of Jesus and the Djaal..
    And yes i agree the Koran and Hadiths cant be corrupted but the hearts of those who interprit them into legislation can be..As the Quran warns about.
    I try not to ignore the Hadiths, there is immense wisdom and knowlage in them..

    I know its extemely difficult but usury can be avoided, i have been meaning to ask on this forum how Islam deals with this problem.

    And thanks for your reply and for mentioning the Seerah..Are there many of those translated into English?
    Which ones would you reccomend?
    Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:Whenever the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) delivered a Khutbah, his eyes would become red, his tone loud and he showed anger as if he were warning us against an army. He (ﷺ) would say, "The enemy is about to attack you in the morning and the enemy is advancing against you in the evening". He would further say, "I am sent with the final Hour like these two fingers of mine." Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) held up his index finger and the middle finger together to illustrate. He used to add: "To proceed, the best speech is the Book of Allah and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (ﷺ), the worst practice is the introduction of new practices in Islam and every Bid'ah is a misguidance". He would also say, "I am, in respect of rights, nearer to every believer than his own self. He who leaves an estate, it belongs to his heirs, and he who leaves a debt, it is my responsibility to pay it off." [Muslim]. Same Hadith as reported by 'Irbad bin Sariyah (May Allah be pleased with him) has already been recorded in the previous chapter regarding safeguarding the Sunnah of the Prophet (ﷺ).

    Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

    I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) pointing with his index and middle fingers, saying. "The time of my Advent and the Hour are like these two fingers." The Great Catastrophe will overwhelm everything.


    (See Hadith number 158)
    Many feel the hour is upon us, but again, the Prophet (saw) also felt similarly and he had his suspicions as to who the dajjal was. You may enjoy reading : http://www.imranhosein.org/books/571...-al-zaman.html

    I'm not even half way through it myself, however, I am familiar with his work and have listened to him discuss the subject many times. He also explains usury quite well and how it can no longer be avoided (not saying we give up on not getting into debt or taking loans etc.).

    As far as the hadith about women needing a mahram to go out and other hadith where rulings are derived from, they are very much relevant to modern day. Women are constantly subjected to cat calling, fondling in public areas especially areas like public transport. Having a mahram there would reduce these instances quite a bit. Here are just a couple of examples of just how rampant this is in modern day.

    This woman took it upon herself to document every time she is subjected to cat calling in a month's time. Have a look at her instagram feed. She takes a photo with each pervert to create awareness of how common this is: https://www.instagram.com/dearcatcallers/?hl=en

    If you google "Sexual harassment in _________'s streets" you will find a problem just about anywhere. In Egypt alone, 99% of women have said they have been victims of sexual harassment. That's a pretty large number.

    I don't know if you are aware of some of the latest news of an 8 year old girl who was gang raped in India very recently.

    This stuff is real and as a grown woman myself, I appreciate having the company of my mahrams when I go out. I do go out alone when I have to and if it is close by. Out of necessity I've had to travel on my own before and I was fine Alhamdullilah, but I have been a victim of harassment myself when I was younger and I can honestly say that if my dad or brothers were with me, nothing would have happened to me.

    Just my take on it
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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm♥Layth View Post
    Many feel the hour is upon us, but again, the Prophet (saw) also felt similarly and he had his suspicions as to who the dajjal was. You may enjoy reading : http://www.imranhosein.org/books/571...-al-zaman.html

    I'm not even half way through it myself, however, I am familiar with his work and have listened to him discuss the subject many times. He also explains usury quite well and how it can no longer be avoided (not saying we give up on not getting into debt or taking loans etc.).
    I am aware of Imran Hosein's lectures, i have much respect for his work, inshalla i will read his books one day, I am sure though he says to be ca
    refull when saying some thing is an integral part of Islam when it is not from the Quran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm♥Layth View Post
    As far as the hadith about women needing a mahram to go out and other hadith where rulings are derived from, they are very much relevant to modern day. Women are constantly subjected to cat calling, fondling in public areas especially areas like public transport. Having a mahram there would reduce these instances quite a bit. Here are just a couple of examples of just how rampant this is in modern day.

    This woman took it upon herself to document every time she is subjected to cat calling in a month's time. Have a look at her instagram feed. She takes a photo with each pervert to create awareness of how common this is: https://www.instagram.com/dearcatcallers/?hl=en

    If you google "Sexual harassment in _________'s streets" you will find a problem just about anywhere. In Egypt alone, 99% of women have said they have been victims of sexual harassment. That's a pretty large number.

    I don't know if you are aware of some of the latest news of an 8 year old girl who was gang raped in India very recently.

    This stuff is real and as a grown woman myself, I appreciate having the company of my mahrams when I go out. I do go out alone when I have to and if it is close by. Out of necessity I've had to travel on my own before and I was fine Alhamdullilah, but I have been a victim of harassment myself when I was younger and I can honestly say that if my dad or brothers were with me, nothing would have happened to me.

    Just my take on it
    I am kind of aware of the harrasment women get still, and read about that horrific rape of that child in India, its like the world is going backwards to a degree, but its still not the same as the times of the Propeht (pbuh) when prior to His revalations ALL women were mens property and the sex slave trade and prostitution was open and accepted part of a brutally patriachical society..
    It would of been much more dangerous then during times of war venturing out side of lands under Muslim control than it is now getting on an areoplane.

    I was reading a link on a previous post about a woman that was raped on a areoplane, the police got her satement when she got off yet let the accused rapist walk out the air port unmollested..wow.
    Also i was reading a case where a high up ex civil servant in Ireland was caught with large amounts of child porn, he served no prison, yet the same judge convicted a man for 6 years for not paying enough tax on food imports..

    The Quran does tell us how to deal with those that harras women, which is zero tollerance, and that could be said of all forms of oppression of the strong over the weak.

    I do think its great advice to be accompanied by a mharam but not ideal for all situations and think the idea that men can openly harras women without fear of punishment is a serious ill of a perverse society and our wives and daughters should be safe to travel without personal guards.

    I thank you for your take.
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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    As long as she is not harming herself or others nor putting hers self in a stupid dangerous situation , i could not oppress my own dughter, certainly not in the name of Allaha, He blessed us with freedom of choice, ears to hear, eyes to see, and heart to feel, may He guide her.




    Inshalla , she will be conscious of Allaha, But for an imaginary example, say she gets a place in a foreign university say in Barcalona, in my experience (i am fairly well travelled) she would be safer being driven to the airport then getting a Taxi, bus or what ever to her digs and going about her bussiness than say if she lived in a british city like say Birmingham and walked across town at night by her self...The most dangerous situation is allowed in whats called 'Islam' but not the other..Cant you see the problem with ruling, its not universal law for all people for all time, every situation is different there is a reason such a law is created by stupid men not by Allaha. There is a reason why he gifted us with eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart and mind to be guided by His conscioussness for each and every situation.



    The debate is becomming foggy here, i am not sure what mental health issues have with the disccusion?
    But my understanding and i think a message lost from the Quran and True Islam is if its causing no harm or loss to any one , it none of their bussines.
    If someone sins, advise against it by all means but dont transgress and be forcing your will on others, thats the action of those gone astray and actually comparable with gangsters and thugs whether they have the monopoly of force or not.

    "Part of the perfection of one’s Islam is his leaving that which does not concern him.” Mohamed (pbuh)

    And if they deny thee, say: Unto me my work, and unto you your work. Ye are innocent of what I do, and I am innocent of what ye do.

    The preceding and following ayats to this are a beauty regarding Allhas sovereignty and why a believer need to worry of the ations of fools and Kafir.




    If you want drink strong drink all day every day there will be reaction to that action as sure as night follows day..I believe people should be free to choose, i beleive Allah to be the sovereign and best punisher.
    Check out thegreaterjihad's faq page, its a tumblr blog, shes studying islam, she specialises in this kinda stuff. You can view it via ur browser even if you dont have a tumblr account
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    Re: Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    Careful there. I smell a hadith rejector. In fact, the Sunnah does not contradict the Quran. It elaborates and explains the Quran.

    May Allah bless you for posting this TRUTH.
    Why Islam Disallows women to leave their houses alone.

    For the translation and short explanation of the surahs / verses of the Holy Quraan go to


    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAb...TcknAmy9Y5Bv1A

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