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    Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

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    There is no need for an explanation.Few words will suffice,which are:
    If every woman in the world took a male relative with her outside and never left her house except that she has a male relative with her,will the number of rapes that occur daily not fall down by a mile?
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    Wouldnt it better to have zero tollerace for rapists or anyone that molests women, or if all women were to be treated as sisters ?

    Where in the Quran does it say women are not allowed to leave the house alone?
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    There are punishments for rapists in countries where rapes are taking place and yet the number of rapes per day is ever increasing.

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    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1729) and Muslim (2391) from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No woman should travel except with a mahram, and no man should enter upon her unless a mahram of hers is present.” A man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, I want to go out with such and such an army and my wife wants to go for Hajj.” He said: “Go out (for Hajj) with her.”
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    women go through too much to protect themselves from the urges of men... rape should be a zero tolerance issue.
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    In most cases in most coutries what few rape cases go to court very few get a conviction..There is certainly lots of tollerance for rapists in the west in the judicial system.
    Neither do people regard each other as brother and sister and wont want to get involved if they hear a disturbance, if as Islam promotes, all women are your sister, every sister would always have guardians present when in public.


    That hadith contradicts in the Quran where it says for women to wear a covering when going out to the cities, the quran says its a complete book , and nothing sould not be added..Somthing as important as women not being allowed out alone would surley be included if it was intended?

    I find it worrying as this ruling which was used by the Church up untill fairly recently kind of makes women alone fair game for rapists and much of the leanience inherent in the system stems from this...
    I find it repugnant and one of the main reasons i am not openly Muslim as i goes againt all common sense and certainly not the kind of world i want my daughters to be raised...Though i will raise them to best of my ability to submit to the will of their creator all the same.

    Apeciate the thread btw its an issue i was going to bring up here.
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    I cannot see how this Hadith contradicts The Quranic passage you quoted.Also,do you agree that despite very strict legistlations in countries,rapes do still occur?Would it not be better for women to take a male guardian with them?Do you agree or not?Also,that Quranic passage only refers to Hijab.Hijab has a separate purpose.This issue a separate purpose.
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
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    In most cases in most coutries what few rape cases go to court very few get a conviction..There is certainly lots of tollerance for rapists in the west in the judicial system.
    Neither do people regard each other as brother and sister and wont want to get involved if they hear a disturbance, if as Islam promotes, all women are your sister, every sister would always have guardians present when in public.


    That hadith contradicts in the Quran where it says for women to wear a covering when going out to the cities, the quran says its a complete book , and nothing sould not be added..Somthing as important as women not being allowed out alone would surley be included if it was intended?

    I find it worrying as this ruling which was used by the Church up untill fairly recently kind of makes women alone fair game for rapists and much of the leanience inherent in the system stems from this...
    I find it repugnant and one of the main reasons i am not openly Muslim as i goes againt all common sense and certainly not the kind of world i want my daughters to be raised...Though i will raise them to best of my ability to submit to the will of their creator all the same.

    Apeciate the thread btw its an issue i was going to bring up here.
    Careful there. I smell a hadith rejector. In fact, the Sunnah does not contradict the Quran. It elaborates and explains the Quran.
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by MuhammadHamza1 View Post
    I cannot see how this Hadith contradicts The Quranic passage you quoted.Also,do you agree that despite very strict legistlations in countries,rapes do still occur?Would it not be better for women to take a male guardian with them?Do you agree or not?Also,that Quranic passage only refers to Hijab.Hijab has a separate purpose.This issue a separate purpose.
    I will find the passage from the Quran later and bring it up, i recall it goes deeper than just a Hijab..

    Which countries are these with strict laws?
    I agree that having a guardian would certainly stop most cases of rape its a fair thing to encourage..But not practicle..
    But what happens to women without a guardian? is there a punishment? Or a lesser punishment for men that harras or rape them?

    Another huge thing i have with Islam is segregation of men/women, cant find mention of this in Quran other than the Prophets wives and we are not prophets..
    Men and women prayed together it wasnt till after the prophets death that there was a divide due to women being harrased ( so i read ) , rather than brothers sticking up for their sisters and stamping out such behaviour they transgressed and created their own laws and rules that imho leands to more trangressions that leave the original sinners alone while accepting the sin which does have a victim..

    Mohamed blessing be uponhim did great things for Womens rights in his day, it seems to me Islam or a part of it has gone back over the years not forward.
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    Wow, one of my posts disappeared. How that happen?
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Peacefully View Post
    Wow, one of my posts disappeared. How that happen?
    That was good post too..
    I was going to quote it, of course the word of man is inafiable and relying on hadith over Quran is a form of Shirk, Doing so can literally cover the word of God, which is major sin no?
    my words not yours..
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    As mentioned by a brother above,
    format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    the Sunnah does not contradict the Quran. It elaborates and explains the Quran.
    In Islam, men and women have complementary roles. The requirement for a guardian or accompany of a male family member is for travelling outside the city.

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    Men and women prayed together it wasnt till after the prophets death ...
    Women used to pray at the backside of the Masjid.

    It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A woman’s prayer in her room is better than her prayer in her courtyard, and her prayer in her cabinet is better than her prayer in her room.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 570; al-Tirmidhi, 1173. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/136).

    It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had lived to see how women have started to behave, he would have prevented them [from going to the mosque] as the women of the Children of Israel were prevented.” I said, to ‘Umrah, “Were they prevented?” He said, “Yes.” (al-Bukhaari, 831; Muslim, 445)
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by AabiruSabeel View Post
    As mentioned by a brother above,

    In Islam, men and women have complementary roles. The requirement for a guardian or accompany of a male family member is for travelling outside the city.



    Women used to pray at the backside of the Masjid.

    It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A woman’s prayer in her room is better than her prayer in her courtyard, and her prayer in her cabinet is better than her prayer in her room.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 570; al-Tirmidhi, 1173. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/136).

    It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had lived to see how women have started to behave, he would have prevented them [from going to the mosque] as the women of the Children of Israel were prevented.” I said, to ‘Umrah, “Were they prevented?” He said, “Yes.” (al-Bukhaari, 831; Muslim, 445)
    Neither of those say a woman must be escorted by a male relative.

    Does it say such in the Quran?
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Does it say such in the Quran?
    The Qur'an says,

    And stay in your homes and do not go about displaying your allurements as in the former Time of Ignorance. Establish Prayer, give Zakah, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah only wishes to remove uncleanness from you, O members of the (Prophet's) household, and to purify you completely. (33:33)

    Al-Bukhaari (1729) and Muslim (2391) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No woman should travel except with a mahram.”

    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No woman should travel except with a mahram and no man should enter upon her unless she has a mahram with her.” A man said: O Messenger of Allah, I want to go out with such-and-such an army, but my wife wants to go for Hajj. He said: “Go with her.”

    Muslim (1339) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to travel the distance of one day, except with a mahram.”


    ”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:65]

    “. . . (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by 99sobi View Post
    The Qur'an says,

    And stay in your homes and do not go about displaying your allurements as in the former Time of Ignorance. Establish Prayer, give Zakah, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah only wishes to remove uncleanness from you, O members of the (Prophet's) household, and to purify you completely. (33:33)

    Al-Bukhaari (1729) and Muslim (2391) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No woman should travel except with a mahram.”

    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No woman should travel except with a mahram and no man should enter upon her unless she has a mahram with her.” A man said: O Messenger of Allah, I want to go out with such-and-such an army, but my wife wants to go for Hajj. He said: “Go with her.”

    Muslim (1339) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to travel the distance of one day, except with a mahram.”


    ”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:65]

    “. . . (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]
    Please give surrah references that I might read within context please.

    Thank you in advance.
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    59. O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
    60. If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbours in it but a little while.
    61. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.
    62. That was the way of Allah in the case of those who passed away of old; thou wilt not find for the way of Allah aught of power to change.

    First of there is a clear distinction saying the Prophets wives are not like anyother women.

    32. O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. If ye keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire (to you), but utter customary speech.
    33. And stay in your houses. Bedizen not yourselves with the bedizenment of the Time of Ignorance. Be regular in prayer, and pay the poor-due, and obey Allah and His messenger. Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness far from you, O Folk of the Household, and cleanse you with a thorough cleansing.

    which might imply the rule about leaving the house alone only applies to the Prophets wives alone, and this verse was revealed when the Prophet(pbuh) was living in troubled times with many enemies around.

    So saying all women require an escort is not there in the Quran? But it does make clear the Zero tollerance policy to wards molestors of Women and that can not ever change.
    The major conradiction i find is the Quran states in numerous verse's it is a complete book and adding anything to it or distorting it is major sin?

    But what do i know? If anyone can prove otherwise please do..

    And i get why its a good idea to suggest and promote the idea of male guardians or escorts, especuially late at night when few people are around.
    But forcing that all the time when going about their daily chores as a rule of law is surley problematic, if not out right oppression?


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    format_quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Please give surrah references that I might read within context please.

    Thank you in advance.
    30. O wives of the Prophet! Whoever of you commits an open illegal sexual intercourse, the torment for her will be doubled, and that is ever easy for Allah.
    31. And whosoever of you is obedient to Allah and His Messenger saws 1 - Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone. , and does righteous good deeds, We shall give her, her reward twice over, and We have prepared for her Rizqan Karima (a noble provision Paradise).
    32. O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.
    33. And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet saws 1 - Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.), and to purify you with a thorough purification.
    34. And remember (O you the members of the Prophet's family, the Graces of your Lord), that which is recited in your houses of the Verses of Allah and Al-Hikmah (i.e. Prophet's Sunnah legal ways, etc. so give your thanks to Allah and glorify His Praises for this Qur'an and the Sunnah). Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things.

    format_quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    which might imply the rule about leaving the house alone only applies to the Prophets wives alone, and this verse was revealed when the Prophet(pbuh) was living in troubled times with many enemies around.

    Sheikh Maududi in his tafsir:

    In these verses, though, only the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him) have been addressed, the intention is to enforce reforms in all the Muslim houses. The object of addressing the Prophet’s (peace be upon him) wives in particular is that when a pure way of life will start from his house, it will be followed by the women of all other Muslim houses as well, because this house was looked upon by the Muslims as a model to follow. Some people, when they see that these verses have been addressed only to the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him), assert that these commandments were only meant for them. But when one reads what follows in these verses, he feels that there is nothing which might have been meant particularly for the wives and not for the other Muslim women. Could Allah have intended only this that the wives alone should be free from un-cleanliness and they alone should obey Allah and His Prophet (peace be upon him) and they alone should offer the Salat and pay the Zakat? If this could not be the intention, then how could the command for them to stay in their houses and avoid displaying the fineries and abstain from talking to the other men in an alluring voice be meant particularly for them to the exclusion of all other Muslim women? Is there any rational proof on the basis of which some commands in one and the same context and series be regarded as general and some others as particular and special?

    ibn Kathir: These are the good manners which Allah enjoined upon the wives of the Prophet so that they would be an example for the women of the Ummah to follow. Allah said, addressing the wives of the Prophet that they should fear Allah as He commanded them, and that no other woman is like them or can be their equal in virtue and status.

    (And stay in your houses,) means, stay in your houses and do not come out except for a purpose. One of the purposes mentioned in Shari`ah is prayer in the Masjid, so long as the conditions are fulfilled, as the Messenger of Allah said:«لَا تَمْنَعُوا إِمَاءَ اللهِ مَسَاجِدَ اللهِ وَلْيَخْرُجْنَ وَهُنَّ تَفِلَات»(Do not prevent the female servants of Allah from the Masjids of Allah, but have them go out without wearing fragrance.) According to another report:«وَبُيُوتُهُنَّ خَيْرٌ لَهُن»(even though their houses are better for them.)
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    There is nothing like a non scholar who claims to be a "Jedi" interpreting the Quran by his whims and desires.
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    re: Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.

    format_quote Originally Posted by 99sobi View Post
    30. O wives of the Prophet! Whoever of you commits an open illegal sexual intercourse, the torment for her will be doubled, and that is ever easy for Allah.
    31. And whosoever of you is obedient to Allah and His Messenger saws 1 - Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone. , and does righteous good deeds, We shall give her, her reward twice over, and We have prepared for her Rizqan Karima (a noble provision Paradise).
    32. O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.
    33. And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet saws 1 - Why Islam Disallows women to travel alone.), and to purify you with a thorough purification.
    34. And remember (O you the members of the Prophet's family, the Graces of your Lord), that which is recited in your houses of the Verses of Allah and Al-Hikmah (i.e. Prophet's Sunnah legal ways, etc. so give your thanks to Allah and glorify His Praises for this Qur'an and the Sunnah). Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things.



    Sheikh Maududi in his tafsir:

    In these verses, though, only the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him) have been addressed, the intention is to enforce reforms in all the Muslim houses. The object of addressing the Prophet’s (peace be upon him) wives in particular is that when a pure way of life will start from his house, it will be followed by the women of all other Muslim houses as well, because this house was looked upon by the Muslims as a model to follow. Some people, when they see that these verses have been addressed only to the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him), assert that these commandments were only meant for them. But when one reads what follows in these verses, he feels that there is nothing which might have been meant particularly for the wives and not for the other Muslim women. Could Allah have intended only this that the wives alone should be free from un-cleanliness and they alone should obey Allah and His Prophet (peace be upon him) and they alone should offer the Salat and pay the Zakat? If this could not be the intention, then how could the command for them to stay in their houses and avoid displaying the fineries and abstain from talking to the other men in an alluring voice be meant particularly for them to the exclusion of all other Muslim women? Is there any rational proof on the basis of which some commands in one and the same context and series be regarded as general and some others as particular and special?

    ibn Kathir: These are the good manners which Allah enjoined upon the wives of the Prophet so that they would be an example for the women of the Ummah to follow. Allah said, addressing the wives of the Prophet that they should fear Allah as He commanded them, and that no other woman is like them or can be their equal in virtue and status.

    (And stay in your houses,) means, stay in your houses and do not come out except for a purpose. One of the purposes mentioned in Shari`ah is prayer in the Masjid, so long as the conditions are fulfilled, as the Messenger of Allah said:«لَا تَمْنَعُوا إِمَاءَ اللهِ مَسَاجِدَ اللهِ وَلْيَخْرُجْنَ وَهُنَّ تَفِلَات»(Do not prevent the female servants of Allah from the Masjids of Allah, but have them go out without wearing fragrance.) According to another report:«وَبُيُوتُهُنَّ خَيْرٌ لَهُن»(even though their houses are better for them.)
    So by stay in houses you believe it literally means stay in your physical house and has nothing to do with dwelling in the place of the Lord internally that you might reflect what is good by adhrarance to modesty and humility?

    Please excuse my ignorance; but would you please provide the chapter or book number with the surrah you provided?
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    99sobi Thanks for your reply but i am still confused, It clearly sates the Prophets wives "are not like other women", why would it state that if all women were to follow the following advice?

    Also it doesnt say anything about having to have a male guardian, just not to leave the house which would be totally understandable in the contxt of the time of the revalation during a time of war and a seige where treachourous people where living among the Muslims..

    Surley If such an extreme rule was meant it would be in the Quran crystal clear so all people could follow it without question, it all seems such a strech of wording and simply not practicle as a way of life.
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    My whim is my desire for Truth..

    99sobi Thanks for your reply but i am still confused, It clearly sates the Prophets wives "are not like other women", why would it state that if all women were to follow the following advice?

    Also it doesnt say anything about having to have a male guardian, just not to leave the house which would be totally understandable in the contxt of the time of the revalation during a time of war and a seige where treachourous people where living among the Muslims..

    Surley If such an extreme rule was meant it would be in the Quran crystal clear so all people could follow it without question, it all seems such a strech of wording and simply not practicle as a way of life.
    So according to your logic then since the Quran doesn't specifically state the 5 prayers crystal clearly so all people could follow it without question, then it is ok to interpret it the way you want to and just pray 3. Or you can look into the Sunnah, which elaborates and explains the Quran, and understand that the Prophet s.a.a.w. and his companions prayed 5. Make sense, truth-seeker?
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