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    Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

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    Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"








    "...Brothers, there is nothing to be ashamed of in our religion. Rather, we have to be clear, have an understanding of the truth of our religion first, and be proud of it, and then we will be able to pride ourselves on it against the whole world without shame or equivocation...."


    Is it correct to say "Islām is a religion of peace" when giving dawah? In this video Dr. Eyad Qunaibi clarifies.


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    Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Okay I’m not an Arabic speaker or a Doctor like the person in that video but I think he’s completely wrong. I genuinely believe that Islam is the religion of peace and I don’t say that because I’m ‘ashamed’ to say otherwise.

    Firstly, in Islam, we only ever fight (and as a last resort) to ultimately obtain peace. I think that’s the obvious argument that everyone makes.

    Secondly, the word Islam in itself stems from the word peace if I understood correctly. Again, one of the obvious arguments.

    Thirdly and most importantly, Islam has given to me a level of inner-peace that I can find nowhere else and I’m sure others feel the same. Until I got close to Allah (Alhamdulillah), I never understood the true meaning of peace.

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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Quote Originally Posted by m4rouf View Post
    Okay I’m not an Arabic speaker or a Doctor like the person in that video but I think he’s completely wrong. I genuinely believe that Islam is the religion of peace and I don’t say that because I’m ‘ashamed’ to say otherwise.

    Firstly, in Islam, we only ever fight (and as a last resort) to ultimately obtain peace. I think that’s the obvious argument that everyone makes.

    Secondly, the word Islam in itself stems from the word peace if I understood correctly. Again, one of the obvious arguments.

    Thirdly and most importantly, Islam has given to me a level of inner-peace that I can find nowhere else and I’m sure others feel the same. Until I got close to Allah (Alhamdulillah), I never understood the true meaning of peace.
    Muslims have become too defensive and weak recently. We should not hide and be apologetic about "offensive Jihad." It is part of our history. Prophet (peace be upon him) was sent with a message for entire universe. During last few years of his life, he started writing letters to Kings of nearby Dynasties (Ask yourself why)? He also sent Muslims to nearby tribes, countries during his life time and many of them did not attack Muslims first. Same thing was continued during the first 100 years after Prophet's death ( including the 32 years of Rightly guided Caliphs). If it was not due to these military contests, you and I may not be worshipping one Allah. See link below for all the battles in which Prophet (peace be upon him) participated and list of all expeditions sent during his own time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ns_of_Muhammad

    But we also need to understand that unlike the military conquest of other religions like Hinduism and Christianity, the Islamic conquerors did not force the conquered people to convert to Islam. Rather they were known as ahl al-dhimma or dhimmis, which means the protected people. They did not have to convert at the point of a sword. We can save the whole dhimmi question for another discussion but the point is that, yes, Islam spread by military conquest and jihad is not only defensive. It can be offensive as well. Whether these were offensive or defensive, no one was forced to convert by sword. Muslims had certain rules for these wars and those were strictly followed.
    Before engaging in battle, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) instructed his soldiers:

    1. Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person. (Sunan Abu Dawud)
    2. Do not practice treachery or mutilation. (Al-Muwatta)
    3. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees. (Al-Muwatta)
    4. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food. (Al-Muwatta)
    5. If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam. (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
    6. Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
    7. Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle. (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)
    8. No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire. (Sunan Abu Dawud).


    And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help! [Quran 4:75]
    These military contests were necessary during the 7th century to safe and expand the Muslim empire. There were no borders and no peace treaties at that time like we have now. People were being oppressed by tyrants and in many instances, Muslims were welcomed by locals because they wanted to get rid of oppressors. History also tells us that many people kept the same religion. For example, till today, we find Hindus have existed and thrived in sub-continent. If religion was to be forced, Muslims could have easily killed them all or forced them to be Muslims. Similarly, in Egypt, we still find more than 10% Coptic Christians. All these are clear proof that "offensive Jihad" was done to save people from oppression, show them beauty of Islam by treated them with justice and to protect the Ummah at a time when might was right and for the most part peace treaties were not honored. This was the only was for any Civilization to thrive.

    Is this Jihad obligatory today? May be and may be not, but what we need is to unite the Ummah under one Caliphate. Only a Caliph can order for offensive Jihad and I hope Imam Mahdi will bring this back to life as it is told in some hadiths. However, defensive Jihad is still part of our Deen. We should be doing Jihad in Palestine and Kashmir and where ever Muslims are being oppressed because UNO is only a puppet of USA. For 70+ years they have only used peace treaties to oppress Muslims and occupy their lands unjustly. Without Jihad, we will be humiliated by these so called peace makers.

    I know my view may be considered as a minority view. But I am happy to express this on this platform. I will be happy to correct my view if someone provides a better explanation of all the military conquests done by the Muslims of first three generations specifically by Khulfa-e-Rashidoon.

    And Allah knows the best!
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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?


    Although the above clarification by brother @'Abdullah is mostly accurate, there is one point that i belive as being important to correct....

    ....although eemaan (faith in Allah ) cannot be - and was not enforced on people, Islam as a lawful system of governance often was -in the case of people who were not adhering to any standards guided by divinely revealed scriptural law. Abu Sufyan was from amongst the first examples of this enforcement in the time of Prophet Muhammad . The queen of Sheba in the time of Prophet Sulaiman is an earlier example of enforcement of divinely revealed laws and community standards upon a population.
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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post

    Although the above clarification by brother @'Abdullah is mostly accurate, there is one point that i belive as being important to correct....

    ....although eemaan (faith in Allah ) cannot be - and was not enforced on people, Islam as a lawful system of governance often was -in the case of people who were not adhering to any standards guided by divinely revealed scriptural law. Abu Sufyan was from amongst the first examples of this enforcement in the time of Prophet Muhammad . The queen of Sheba in the time of Prophet Sulaiman is an earlier example of enforcement of divinely revealed laws and community standards upon a population.
    Wa-Alaikum Assalam WaRahmatullhi WaBarakatuhu Akhi,

    Thanks for the correction. Definitely I believe that Shariah law is the only way to establish justice in the world because no one knows what is good and bad for human beings except their Creator. That’s the reason I asked in another thread, why would someone be okay with UN enforcing International humanitarian law and not okay with Muslims enforcing Shariah. We have a law and foundation against which morality be compared, unlike the secular system where definition of morality changes with popular opinion. Just few decades ago, homosexuality has considered as evil across the world and now it is accepted as human right. That shows how limited our knowledge is. When man tries to think he is better than God but deciding what is moral and what is not at their own, entire society suffers. It is best to submit to Allah to find the peace and be firm on what is revealed to us through Prophets.

    And Allah knows the best!
    Jazakallah Khair

    Ma’aSalaam
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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Islam is meant to be a Religion of peace.
    Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Allahu Akbar!

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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Define "religion of peace"

    Islaam is the only true religion...how it should be...it is the religion of the truth.
    Islaam is the religion of justice.

    Sure, Islam desires "a state of permanent, peaceful coexistence with other nations and peoples who are not Muslims"...if that is what you mean, then yeah, Islaam is the religion of peace.
    However Islaam does not force us to be peacefull towards people who are hostile or mean harm to us.

    So it really depends on what definition you take.
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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    Define "religion of peace"

    Islaam is the only true religion...how it should be...it is the religion of the truth.
    Islaam is the religion of justice.

    Sure, Islam desires "a state of permanent, peaceful coexistence with other nations and peoples who are not Muslims"...if that is what you mean, then yeah, Islaam is the religion of peace.
    However Islaam does not force us to be peacefull towards people who are hostile or mean harm to us.

    So it really depends on what definition you take.
    Good Post and comments, Umit!! Very well said, dear brother!
    Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    Allahu Akbar!

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    Re: Saying "Islām Is A Religion of Peace"...?

    One other thing...

    We cannot change the fact that violence in this world simply exists. Islaam stops being a religion of justice as soon as it forbids all sorts of violence in order to be totally peacefull.
    If we are wronged in any way, we could forgive them...which is of course course the better option, but we do not have to. We have the right to demand the same thing back what is taken from us, or at least that he get to be punished for what he has done. That cannot be done in a religion that stands for peace for whatever it takes.

    We do not have to turn the other cheek to our enemies like christians...we may hit back. it even becomes obligatory when they threaten to exterminate us...we are not sitting ducks waiting to get killed.
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