Does anbody here have any tips as to how to give da'wah to a sikh?
Or is anyone here a revert from Sikhism?
Or does anyone know of any such contradictions or scientific errors in the Sikh teachings?
Is there any good site for these questions if none of you know the answer?
Basically i have a sikh friend who recently has taken a real disliking towards Islam when he found out according to Islam, only Muslims go to heaven and all other followers of other religions go to hell. He thinks all religions are right and basically they are all a different form of discipline, for example some people pray 5 times a day to discipline themselves and be good people, some people go to church, some people grow their hair long like sikhs. But basically all are different paths to God
The basic argument i have agaisnt HIS views are, that Sikhism is contradicting itself big time. How can all religions be right, seeing as religions like Christianity Judaism and Islam all believe the whole purpose of their life revolves round the fact we will e going to heaven/hell, whilst religions like Sikhsim n Hinduism believe in reincarnation
Christianity believes Jesus is Son of God, whilst Islam emphatically says the oppisite, saing it is blasphemous to say this
Hinduism says there are lots of Gods and for example Judaism says theres one God. How can all these religions be right, its as if your saying God said one thing to one set of epople, and said something totall different to another set, ie saying he is lieing and that just can't be
Anyway these are my views regarding his views, but i'm not too sure if these are the correct Sikh beliefs
Please can someone comment or help me on this topic, or provide a decent site about this
I'm not in the best position to give specific advice because I'm not a scholar and I've never been in that position. However, Muslims are taught to be tolerant of other faiths.
In my humble view, people are free to follow whatever they choose. I'm fortunate to be Muslim and man do I know it. :brother:
Moss,
In your Dawah you should focus on explaining Islam rather than attacking other religions via contradictions, errors is scriptures etc. You should focus on the beauty of Islam.
Basically i have a sikh friend who recently has taken a real disliking towards Islam when he found out according to Islam, only Muslims go to heaven and all other followers of other religions go to hell. He thinks all religions are right and basically they are all a different form of discipline, for example some people pray 5 times a day to discipline themselves and be good people, some people go to church, some people grow their hair long like sikhs. But basically all are different paths to God
How can all these religions be right, its as if your saying God said one thing to one set of epople, and said something totall different to another set, ie saying he is lieing and that just can't be
you're absoloutely correct.
To learn about sikhism, I suggest looking up Sikhism at Wikipedia.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
No need to insult his religion just explain to him the beleifs in Islam and the purpose of them.
Sûrah al An'am 6:109
"Revile not those unto whom they pray besides Allah lest they wrongfully revile Allah through ignorance. Thus unto every nation have We made their deeds seem fair. Then unto their Lord is their return, and He will tell them what they used to do."
Some followers of Guru Nanak after his death claimed him to be muslim, others claimed him to be a hindu and a new religion of Sikhism was founded through his teachings, inshallah the following two articles below will give you some insight into it:
Basically i have a sikh friend who recently has taken a real disliking towards Islam when he found out according to Islam, only Muslims go to heaven and all other followers of other religions go to hell. He thinks all religions are right and basically they are all a different form of discipline, for example some people pray 5 times a day to discipline themselves and be good people, some people go to church, some people grow their hair long like sikhs. But basically all are different paths to God
This is true; Sikhism accepts the facts that there are many paths to God and it regards itself as a simple path. This is shown when Guru Nanak went to Mecca and the Qazis and the Mullas crowded around the Guru and asked "Who is the superior of the two, the Hindu or the Muslim?" The Guru replied,"Without good deeds, both will repent. The superiority lies in deeds and not in mere creeds." This shows that a good Hindu or a good Muslim would be rewarded in the court of God.
Or does anyone know of any such contradictions or scientific errors in the Sikh teachings?
Actually the Guru Granth Sahib Ji is surprisingly coherant with scientific facts.
Sikhs believe that God created the whole universe. Earth while being in the universe is a creation of God and all the life on earth is a creation of God. It does not matter to a Sikh whether earth was created in seven days or it evolved in 4 billion years. If the earth was created then God created the earth and if the earth was evolved then God created the evolution of the earth. In addition, Guru Granth Sahib (The Holy Scripture of Sikhs) states remarkable information about the universe, galaxies, stars, planets and the moons. None of the information written in the scripture contradicts with the scientific facts. Furthermore, nothing in Guru Granth Sahib can be disproved with the help of science. However, scientific facts support the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Guru Nanak debated alot with his Muslim companions and in Nanak's time, Baghdad was a centre of Muslim culture - it was home to pirs and sufi fakirs. Guru Nanak stayed in Baghdad for four months and interacted with the holy men there, one of whom was Bahlol. Guru Nanak sang of the infinity of God and His infinite creation. Bahlol said that the Qur'an had mentioned seven earths and seven heavens only. Guru Nanak urged that the universe was not confined to seven earths and seven heavens but had millions and millions of planets and worlds, these facts were scientifically supported many hundreds of years later by western scientists.
Last edited by Muhammad; 05-17-2006 at 09:24 AM.
Reason: Double post deleted
Does anbody here have any tips as to how to give da'wah to a sikh?
Or is anyone here a revert from Sikhism?
Or does anyone know of any such contradictions or scientific errors in the Sikh teachings?
Is there any good site for these questions if none of you know the answer?
Basically i have a sikh friend who recently has taken a real disliking towards Islam when he found out according to Islam, only Muslims go to heaven and all other followers of other religions go to hell. He thinks all religions are right and basically they are all a different form of discipline, for example some people pray 5 times a day to discipline themselves and be good people, some people go to church, some people grow their hair long like sikhs. But basically all are different paths to God
The basic argument i have agaisnt HIS views are, that Sikhism is contradicting itself big time. How can all religions be right, seeing as religions like Christianity Judaism and Islam all believe the whole purpose of their life revolves round the fact we will e going to heaven/hell, whilst religions like Sikhsim n Hinduism believe in reincarnation
Christianity believes Jesus is Son of God, whilst Islam emphatically says the oppisite, saing it is blasphemous to say this
Hinduism says there are lots of Gods and for example Judaism says theres one God. How can all these religions be right, its as if your saying God said one thing to one set of epople, and said something totall different to another set, ie saying he is lieing and that just can't be
Anyway these are my views regarding his views, but i'm not too sure if these are the correct Sikh beliefs
Please can someone comment or help me on this topic, or provide a decent site about this
Why are you attacking our faith?? Would you like it if Sikhs done the same?? Suppose not. Research Sikhi before you start making falsifying claims of contradiction.
in 6 form Allah (swt) showed d lite 2 1 of me sikh mateys n she converted
bcos she sed dat guru nanak sed islamic tins lik such as Allah has no father, son or bros, also in a book var majh, guru nanak tlks bout d islamic prayers & how dey r d rite 1s, n she dint agree wit certain stuf in d religion, but neway lol she converted 2 islam
i tink 1 can ask a sikh d position of guru nanak, cos he did "apparently" go 4 hajj, n he sed quite a lot of islamic stuff, anyway Allah (swt) knows best
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
in 6 form Allah (swt) showed d lite 2 1 of me sikh mateys n she converted
bcos she sed dat guru nanak sed islamic tins lik such as Allah has no father, son or bros, also in a book var majh, guru nanak tlks bout d islamic prayers & how dey r d rite 1s, n she dint agree wit certain stuf in d religion, but neway lol she converted 2 islam
i tink 1 can ask a sikh d position of guru nanak, cos he did "apparently" go 4 hajj, n he sed quite a lot of islamic stuff, anyway Allah (swt) knows best
Many people convert from different faiths canada is quite a poular destination where many muslim girls get hitched to sikhs and they become sikhs too, there an actual discussion on the internet I think its called asiapacific.net and anyways it was basically pakistanis who had gone abroad and become sikhs cos after partition they were forced to embrace islam but the sikh roots were too strong so with gurus kirpa they found their way back to their true home, i suppose thats the way it goes in life,
Hey guys that post by me was a looong loong time ago. I apologise if it caused offence, but the bro's corrected me above and advised me to focus on islam rather than sikhism, which is what i chose to do
Again apologies if it came accross wrong
Make Dua for your Brothers and the Angels will make Dua for You!
Happy moments, Praise Allah
Difficult moments, Seek Allah
Quiet moments, Worship Allah
Painful moments, Trust Allah
Every moment, Thank Allah
If Allah brings you to it, He will bring you through it
in 6 form Allah (swt) showed d lite 2 1 of me sikh mateys n she converted
bcos she sed dat guru nanak sed islamic tins lik such as Allah has no father, son or bros, also in a book var majh, guru nanak tlks bout d islamic prayers & how dey r d rite 1s, n she dint agree wit certain stuf in d religion, but neway lol she converted 2 islam
i tink 1 can ask a sikh d position of guru nanak, cos he did "apparently" go 4 hajj, n he sed quite a lot of islamic stuff, anyway Allah (swt) knows best
Your friend obviously had very little gian (knowledge) on Sikhi
You mean in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang.141
सलोकु मः १ ॥
salok mehlaa 1.
Shalok, First Mehl:
ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵਣੁ ਮੁਸਕਲੁ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥
मुसलमाणु कहावणु मुसकलु जा होइ ता मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥
musalmaan kahaavan muskal jaa ho-ay taa musalmaan kahaavai.
It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.
ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲੁ ਮੁਸਾਵੈ ॥
अवलि अउलि दीनु करि मिठा मसकल माना मालु मुसावै ॥
aval a-ul deen kar mithaa maskal maanaa maal musaavai.
First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.
ਹੋਇ ਮੁਸਲਿਮੁ ਦੀਨ ਮੁਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਵੈ ॥
होइ मुसलिमु दीन मुहाणै मरण जीवण का भरमु चुकावै ॥
ho-ay muslim deen muhaanai maran jeevan kaa bharam chukhaavai.
Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.
ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥
रब की रजाइ मंने सिर उपरि करता मंने आपु गवावै ॥
rab kee rajaa-ay mannay sir upar kartaa mannay aap gavaavai.
As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.
ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥
तउ नानक सरब जीआ मिहरमति होइ त मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥१॥
ta-o naanak sarab jee-aa mihramat ho-ay ta musalmaan kahaavai. ||1||
And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. ||1||
As for any suggestion of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj being Muslim or performing Hajj or even Hindu.
Bhai Gurdas Ji, Var on Pannaa 1
puCn gl eImwn dI kwzI mulW iekTy hoeI]
vfw sWg vrqwieAw lK n sky kudriq koeI]
puCx Kol ikqwb nUM vfw ihMdU kI muslmwnoeI]
bwbw AwKy hwzIAW SuB AmlW bwJo dovyN roeI]
ihMdU muslmwn doie drgih AMdr lYx n FoeI]
kcw rMg kusuMB kw pwxI DoqY iQr n rhoeI]
krn bKIlI Awp ivc rwm rhIm kuQwie KloeI]
rwh SYqwnI dunIAw goeI ]óó]
Qazi and maulvis got together and began discussing religion.
A great fantasy has been created and no one could understood its mystery.
They asked Baba Nanak to open and search in his book whether Hindu is great or the Muslim.
Baba replied to the pilgrim hajis, that, without good deeds both will have to weep and wail.
Only by being a Hindu or a Muslim one can not get accepted in the court of the Lord.
As the colour of safflower is impermanent and is washed away in water, likewise the colours of religiosity are also temporary.
(Followers of both the religions) In their expositions, denounce Ram and Rahim.
The whole of the world is following the ways of Satan.
i tink 1 can ask a sikh d position of guru nanak, cos he did "apparently" go 4 hajj, n he sed quite a lot of islamic stuff, anyway Allah (swt) knows best
But Guru Nanak was not a Muslim, at Mecca the Qazis and the Mullas crowded around the Guru and asked whether he was a Muslim or a Hindu? The Guru replied that he was neither of the two. Plus he also made many visits to important Hindu places of worship to spread his message.
Hey guys that post by me was a looong loong time ago. I apologise if it caused offence, but the bro's corrected me above and advised me to focus on islam rather than sikhism, which is what i chose to do
Only focus on Islam eh??
Whys that??
Anyway i enjoy reading about all religions so that i find them easier to accept in an ever increasing diverse society, when im older i plan on reading the Koran
But Guru Nanak was not a Muslim, at Mecca the Qazis and the Mullas crowded around the Guru and asked whether he was a Muslim or a Hindu? The Guru replied that he was neither of the two. Plus he also made many visits to important Hindu places of worship to spread his message.
Hardwar is one of the Hindu pilgrimage places on the bank of river Ganges. It was a Baisakhi day and the pilgrims got up early in the morning and bathed in the river. As the sun came out, they started throwing water towards the sun. When Guru Nanak asked them as to what they were doing, one priest replied,"We are offering water to our dead ancestors in the region of Sun to quench their thirst."
Upon this the Guru started throwing water towards the west. The pilgrims laughed and asked what he was doing. The Guru replied,"I am watering my fields in my village in the Punjab." The priest asked,"How can your water reach such a distance?" The Guru retorted,"How far your ancestors are from here?" One of them replied,"in the other world."
The Guru stated,"If the water cannot reach my fields which are about four hundred miles away from here, how can your water reach your ancestors who are not even on this earth?" The crowd stood in dumb realization. The Guru preached against superstitions and false rituals, worship of gods and goddesses, penances and renunciation. He stressed that only One God, the Formless, was to be glorified. In this way he showed the path of truth and enlightenment. There is a Gurdwara called Nanakwara in Hardwar on the bank of the river Ganges where the Guru had stayed.
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Sign Up
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
Hide
Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
Posting Permissions
Bookmarks