how can you enter hell if you reject Allah and his messengers.
Contemplate over this, the one who created you, provided for you, given you everything and you reject him? Why on earth should he allow you to enter heaven after such arrogance :eek:
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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if they have denied that Allah (swt) is the 1 and only god and he is d real deal and RasoolAllah (salla Allah Hu Aley Wassalm) is his last Prophet!
because Abu Talib who werent muslim , he propa did good by looking after RasoolAllah (saw) but in a sahih hadiths in muslim it says he will be in hell, but the fire will only touch his feet to make his brain boil, so this hadiths shows that even if you do good but disbelieve in Allah (swt) then you will stil go hell, i hope that helps ya
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
In the quran its stated that those who disbelieve in God and his messengers and verses, as well as associate partners with him will enter the hell.
What about those who believe in a creator but, for example dont follow religion due to the negative representation of it, especially islam, in the media.
Also if muslims are setting a bad example how are people supposed to see the beauty of islam and embrace it?
In the quran its stated that those who disbelieve in God and his messengers and verses, as well as associate partners with him will enter the hell.
What about those who believe in a creator but, for example dont follow religion due to the negative representation of it, especially islam, in the media.
Also if muslims are setting a bad example how are people supposed to see the beauty of islam and embrace it?
if they muslim sinners then they prob gnna go to hell for an appointed time, but the murderers who kill muslims intentionally will go hell 4eva i heard, and also hippocrites will be in hell forever.... ffended:
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Whats the islamic definition for a hypocrite.
From my pov, most muslims thes days including myself can be deemed as hypocrites as we pay lip service to islam without following what it commands to the full.
Also are the hypocrites worser than the disbelievers, cause the hypocrites have received the truth and just cant be bothered and turn away.
So, will the hypocrites get a greater punishment?
what if a non muslim believes in god and prays to him (supplicates.)
I ask the question cause i have a friend who has all the charachteristics of a Muslim, in terms of charachter and morals, but does not believe in religion-despite believing in God.
What would you recommend i give her to read or listen to, just to introduce her to islam.
The same God who created you and gave you your faith through Islam also created me and gave me a faith through Christianity. When we both pray; the same God hears both our prayers. The same God also created people who are atheists, Hindu, Sikh and have all manors of beliefs. I feel drawn towards Christianity as you may well be drawn towards Islam.
We both have to trust in a merciful and forgiving God who has a fair and just way to judge each one of us despite our differences. We need to pray for each other and people of other faiths that we may all gain salvation despite our differences here on Earth.
In the spirit of striving for a greater understanding of one God.
It is that simple,it is we ourselves that make it hard.
Thruout the 5 holy books including the bible,it always say to worship ONE GOD,not 2 not 3 not 4 not a pantheon of gods.
It is simple.
Only ONE GOD
Entry to hell are poeple whom practise idolatry or worship other besides Allah,or say god is man.
But as is written,,HIS MERCY SHALL OVERCOME HIS WRATH
Allah has sent rules and guidance but should you wilfully neglect them,then you will be punished.
Muslim too who are not sincere or who have bad deeds will enter hell.
For a time,Inshallah
A person needs to have "La Illaha Ilallah". The works of the disbelievers will not avail them in the Aakhirah no matter how many they be. The Shahadah is the prerequisite for any actions to be accepted. But Allah is not unjust. He rewards them in this Dunya and gives them all their recompense for their good deeds here so that on the Day of Judgement they have nothing.
14:18. The parable of those who disbelieve in their Lord is that their works are as ashes, on which the wind blows furiously on a stormy day, they shall not be able to get aught of what they have earned. That is the straying, far away (from the Right Path).
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
"It is the very pursuit of happiness that thwarts happiness." - Victor Frankl
It is established by the consensus of Muslim scholars that there are indeed people in the world who do not recieve the message of Islam and consequently will be judged according to their circumstances. Imaam Ibn Al-Qayyim said concerning non-muslims who did not recieve the message of Islam:
We cannot rule whether such people are believers or unbelievers, because disbelieving means to deny something, while in their case, they did not know about the message from the first instance. As they were neither believers nor unbelievers, they should have a different ruling on the Day of Judgment.
Even if we were to say that they are unbelievers, then we would still have to say that the precondition for unbelievers to be punished in the Hereafter has not been ralized in their case. They have to be warned first. Allah will not punish people without a previous warning. This warning should be in the language that the person understands. (Tarîq al-Hijratayn and Ahkâm ahl al-Dhimmah)
Wallahu 'alam.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
Greetings in peace Ansar, I hope that you and your family are well,
It is established by the consensus of Muslim scholars
But most Muslim scholars are not God, most Christian, Hindu, Jewish scholars are not God. None of us are in a position to make judgements on God’s behalf.
Allah will not punish people without a previous warning. This warning should be in the language that the person understands.
When you say this warning should be in a language that the person understands, this may not mean English, French or Chinese. I understand more the language of Christianity rather than the language of Islam. You have a greater understanding of the language of Islam. Is God going to judge each one of us by our separate understandings?
With sincerity I believe that we are somehow stuck with our differing beliefs and I pray that people of all faiths may achieve eternal salvation with God.
In the spirit of striving for a greater interfaith friendship
anyone who rejects Allah and his messenger will enter the hell fire for enternity.and muslims who commited a lot of sins in this lifetime will also go to hell fire but not for enternity.after the sinful Muslims serve their time in hell they will be raised to the heavens.
"Religion is very easy & whoever overburdens himself in his religion won't be able to continue in that way.So you should'nt be extremists,but try to be near to perfection & receive good tidings that you'll be rewarded;& gain strength by worshipping in the mornings,the nights." (bukhari vol.1 no.38).
anyone who rejects Allah and his messenger will enter the hell fire for enternity
I struggle with this message, I am a Christian who will go to hell because I have not embraced Islam. I have been coming to this forum for about eighteen months and nothing has inspired me to feel that Islam is the greater path.
Having said that I admire many things about Muslims; Islam as a religion has helped me to understand my own Christian faith in a deeper way.
I am still stuck with the belief that we are all created by the same God and that despite our differences we are all brothers and sisters together.
We need to pray for each other that we may all achieve salvation.
But most Muslim scholars are not God, most Christian, Hindu, Jewish scholars are not God. None of us are in a position to make judgements on God’s behalf.
You're taking my sentence out of context; I was speaking about the Islamic ruling on this issue. They are not making judgements on God's behalf, those judgements are revealed by God in the Qur'an and Sunnah and this ruling is based upon these divine sources.
When you say this warning should be in a language that the person understands, this may not mean English, French or Chinese. I understand more the language of Christianity rather than the language of Islam. You have a greater understanding of the language of Islam. Is God going to judge each one of us by our separate understandings?
By language it means that the beliefs and fundamentals of ISLAM are communicated to that person so that they are able to understand them. There is no such thing as communicating Islam in the language of disbelief, because a Muslim must believe in God and His Messenger and all that was revealed to him.
Here's something I wrote in another thread:
format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
If someone recieves the message of Islam properly, then they can not reject it with impunity. When God sent Prophet Moses it was incumbent on his people to follow him and believe in him. The same is true for Prophet Jesus. The same is true for Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon all of them. God does not send a prophet for no reason; He sends them to guide people back to the original message of all the prophets. There really is no reason for someone to reject and disbelieve in the Prophet.
Nevertheless, if someone does not adequately recieve the message of Islam then they will be judged according to their circumstances. God knows best what was in their heart, we don't.
format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
There is a huge reason to reject them if they are fake.
Of course, but the explicit supposition is that they are fake. If they are not fake then there is no reason to reject them. That is why God gave us the faculties of reason and logic to investigate and search for the truth.
Think about it this way, why would Islamic doctrine be built around the supposition that it is false?? That's not logically coherent.
Another member has told me that if you are righteous and follow Judaism then under Islam you will go to heaven. I was suprised because Judaism is similar in this aspect. Are you saying this is not true, and it is all dependant on if you recieved the message of Islam properly?
Yes, it is NOT true that someone who disbelieves in Prophet Muhammad and thinks he is false will go to paradise. If that was the case, why would the Prophet have bothered preaching at all? If you are a righteous person, God will guide you to the truth. Why would God allow a righteous believing servant of His, who craves for the truth, to be mislead and come to reject God's Messenger? That's not consistent with the concept of God as the Most Just.
Regards
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
Do Musllims believe that all non Muslims will enter the hell fire, even if they have done good in this world?
This has been discussed before..i believe Non Muslims who believe in One God and do righteous good things will enter paradise...how Allah will judge then and the specifics etc i don't know...but Allah says he will not treat the good and the bad in the exact manner..this includes the bad nonmuslims and the good nonmuslims.
All of them worship out of fear of fire
and consider deliverance abundant good fortune
or so they may dwell in the gardens , and reach to the meadows of paradise and there drink from its rivers
of gardens or fire i have no opinion
I seek no exchange for my Dearest Love
i have an interesting question..we should refelct on.
imagine there are two people one is a muslim by verbal profession..comitts all sorts of sins, lying, cheating, comitting injustice, fornications etc..the other is a nonmuslim..could be a christian who doesnt believe in the trinity..worships God much, helps out vulnerable people and does his/her hardest to lead a good moral life..How will Allah judge?
All of them worship out of fear of fire
and consider deliverance abundant good fortune
or so they may dwell in the gardens , and reach to the meadows of paradise and there drink from its rivers
of gardens or fire i have no opinion
I seek no exchange for my Dearest Love
could be a christian who doesnt believe in the trinity
A person who doesn't believe in the trinity isn't counted as a christian, this is the reason why anyone who doesn't believe in the "sacrifice of Jesus" doesn't gain the salvation, according to some christians.
However, if your point is that it's just a person who accept's all the messengers upto Jesus, peace be upon him. Then their rejecting a noble messenger of Allaah Almighty, Muhammad (peace be upon him.) If they reject Allaah's messenger, don't you think that's going against Allaah?
Remember that Muhammad (peace be upon him) came to introduce new law's of Allaah, so if they reject the actual message recieved from Allaah, aren't they disobeying Him, Almighty?
If we believe that the Qur'an is from Allaah, and that the jews and christians have tampered with it, then what guidance do they actually have?
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