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    Misconception : The Islamic Threat

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    In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy.

    Unfortunately, due to a twisted mixture of biased reporting in the Western media and the actions of some ignorant Muslims, the word "Islam" has become almost synonymous with " ism". However, when one analyzes the situation, the question that should come to mind is: Do the teachings of Islam encourage ism? The answer: Certainly not! Islam totally forbids the ist acts that are carried out by some misguided people. It should be remembered that all religions have cults and misguided followers, so it is their teachings that should be looked at, not the actions of a few individuals. Unfortunately, in the media, whenever a Muslim commits a heinous act, he is labeled a "Muslim ist". However, when Serbs murder and rape innocent women in Bosnia, they are not called "Christian ists", nor are the activities in Northern Ireland labeled "Christian ism". Also, when right-wing Christians in the U. S. bomb abortion clinics, they are not called "Christian ists". Reflecting on these facts, one could certainly conclude that there is a double-standard in the media! Although religious feelings play a significant role in the previously mentioned "Christian" conflicts, the media does not apply religious labels because they assume that such barbarous acts have nothing to do with the teachings of Christianity.

    However, when something happens involving a Muslim, they often try to put the blame on Islam itself -- and not the misguided individual. Certainly, Islamic Law allows war --- any religion or civilization that did not would never survive --- but it certainly does not condone attacks against innocent people, women or children. The Arabic word "jihad", which is often translated as "Holy War", simply means "to struggle". The word for "war" in Arabic is "harb", not "jihad". "Struggling", i.e. "making jihad", to defend Islam, Muslims or to liberate a land where Muslims are oppressed is certainly allowed (and even encouraged) in Islam. However, any such activities must be done according to the teachings of Islam. Islam also clearly forbids "taking the law into your own hands", which means that individual Muslims cannot go around deciding who they want to kill, punish or torture. Trial and punishment must be carried out by a lawful authority and a knowledgeable judge. Also, when looking at events in the Muslim World, it should be kept in mind that a long period of colonialism ended fairly recently in most Muslim countries.

    During this time, the peoples in this countries were culturally, materially and religiously exploited - mostly by the so-called "Christian" nations of the West. This painful period has not really come to an end in many Muslim countries, where people are still under the control of foreign powers or puppet regimes supported by foreign powers. Also, through the media, people in the West are made to believe that tyrants like Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Moamar Qaddafi in Libya are "Islamic" leaders -- when just the opposite is true. Neither of these rulers even profess Islam as an ideology, but only use Islamic slogans to manipulate their powerless populations. They have about as much to do with Islam as had to do with Christianity! In reality, many Middle Eastern regimes which people think of as being "Islamic" oppress the practice of Islam in their countries. So suffice it to say that " ism" and killing innocent people directly contradicts the teachings of Islam.
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    When a criminal is arrested, due process followed and he is sentanced, the people should be happy.

    Recently, a group of criminals in Australia were arrested for rape. There was a court case and the men found guilt and sentances.

    The father of one stood and said "this is an attack on Islam!"

    This is why we come to this forum, to find out why the father thinks like that.
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    When a criminal is arrested, due process followed and he is sentanced, the people should be happy.

    Recently, a group of criminals in Australia were arrested for rape. There was a court case and the men found guilt and sentances.

    The father of one stood and said "this is an attack on Islam!"

    This is why we come to this forum, to find out why the father thinks like that.
    I would be curious to read any stories about this that you can post to Joe98.
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    When a criminal is arrested, due process followed and he is sentanced, the people should be happy.

    Recently, a group of criminals in Australia were arrested for rape. There was a court case and the men found guilt and sentances.

    The father of one stood and said "this is an attack on Islam!"

    This is why we come to this forum, to find out why the father thinks like that.
    The father was obviously shaken and understandably (but not justifiably) lashed out in an effort to protect his son. It's just like playing the race card ('You're only arresting me because I'm black!'). It's not right, and people need to accept responsibility for their own actions rather than blindly lashing out. In some cases though, 'playing the race card' might well be justified. In the case you mentioned, I do not believe it was.
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    When a criminal is arrested, due process followed and he is sentanced, the people should be happy.

    Recently, a group of criminals in Australia were arrested for rape. There was a court case and the men found guilt and sentances..
    was the rape proven? Was the penalty death? If not im not happy !!!

    cant get much more twisted then a rapist !!!!!
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    format_quote Originally Posted by Maze
    was the rape proven?
    Yes

    format_quote Originally Posted by Maze
    Was the penalty death?
    There is no death penalty in Australia
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    Re: Misconception : The Islamic Threat

    Unfortunately, in the media, whenever a Muslim commits a heinous act, he is labeled a "Muslim ist". However, when Serbs murder and rape innocent women in Bosnia, they are not called "Christian ists", nor are the activities in Northern Ireland labeled "Christian ism". Also, when right-wing Christians in the U. S. bomb abortion clinics, they are not called "Christian ists". Reflecting on these facts, one could certainly conclude that there is a double-standard in the media! Although religious feelings play a significant role in the previously mentioned "Christian" conflicts, the media does not apply religious labels because they assume that such barbarous acts have nothing to do with the teachings of Christianity.
    Agree somewhat brother, but the incidents u mentioned were isolated ones done by christian terrorists. But Islamic jihadis are working overtime and since long to give some Islamism kind of feeling to media. To make things worse images of ppls waving pics of OBLs and Zarqawis can be easily seen in muslim lands. Articles and sermons glorifying these guys are not too hard to access. These very things gives room to such feelings of Islamphobia.

    However, when something happens involving a Muslim, they often try to put the blame on Islam itself -- and not the misguided individual. Certainly, Islamic Law allows war --- any religion or civilization that did not would never survive --- but it certainly does not condone attacks against innocent people, women or children. The Arabic word "jihad", which is often translated as "Holy War", simply means "to struggle". The word for "war" in Arabic is "harb", not "jihad". "Struggling", i.e. "making jihad", to defend Islam, Muslims or to liberate a land where Muslims are oppressed is certainly allowed (and even encouraged) in Islam. However, any such activities must be done according to the teachings of Islam. Islam also clearly forbids "taking the law into your own hands", which means that individual Muslims cannot go around deciding who they want to kill, punish or torture. Trial and punishment must be carried out by a lawful authority and a knowledgeable judge. Also, when looking at events in the Muslim World, it should be kept in mind that a long period of colonialism ended fairly recently in most Muslim countries.
    Twisting of facts brother,

    Islam allows war, Islam allows killings, Islam allows beheadings. Other religions too allow the same. Agreed, but other religions are not propogating its laws in a bizzare fashion as Muslims does. An average muslim has only access to holy quran, where in holy quran is written that torture or killing must be carried out by a lawfull authroity or a knowledgable judge? So whats a big deal if some pious muslim, who is hurt by the alledged oppression by his Ummah by Islamic media, goes out and blow himself up and thus getting rid this earth of few kuffar while landing in paradise?

    During this time, the peoples in this countries were culturally, materially and religiously exploited - mostly by the so-called "Christian" nations of the West. This painful period has not really come to an end in many Muslim countries, where people are still under the control of foreign powers or puppet regimes supported by foreign powers. Also, through the media, people in the West are made to believe that tyrants like Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Moamar Qaddafi in Libya are "Islamic" leaders -- when just the opposite is true. Neither of these rulers even profess Islam as an ideology, but only use Islamic slogans to manipulate their powerless populations. They have about as much to do with Islam as had to do with Christianity! In reality, many Middle Eastern regimes which people think of as being "Islamic" oppress the practice of Islam in their countries. So suffice it to say that " ism" and killing innocent people directly contradicts the teachings of Islam.
    Brothre, Its duty of muslims to show to the world what Islam is all about. So if U guys are failing to fullfill ur duty, than its not fair to blame others for ur failure. I hope U understand. So forget about just articles and sermons glorifying Islam. It can only help some adriline running down for a while. Instead do something which can give THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION OF ALLAH its rightfull place in the world, and not that bad name that so called muslims have earned for themselves and their religion.

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