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    Arrow are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here) (OP)


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    are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)


    Originally posted by hacyec

    I believe it says in the Qur'an that there are Muslims even withing the people of the book, people who are considered Muslims. Remember that the biggest sin is to commit Shirk, do Jews do this? I was Catholic and the only time I commited something Shirk was when I was a child, but then learned to think otherwise. Personally, yes I believe that Jew's, Christians, and of course Muslims will go to heaven as long as they deserve it of course, a pious Jew is much more deserving of heaven than a murderous Muslim, you get what I mean? But all is in Allah's hands in the end brother's and sisters, salaam.


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    not Jew, no Christian, no other religion will have its followers go to heaven

    this is agains the Quran

    At-Tahreem - (The Prohibition)

    Recitation:
    [66:7]
    English Yusuf Ali: [66:7]
    (They will say), "O ye Unbelievers! Make no excuses this Day! Ye are being but requited for all that ye did!"

    [7:36]
    English Yusuf Ali: [7:36]
    But those who reject Our signs and treat them with arrogance,- they are companions of the Fire, to dwell therein (for ever).

    [2:39]
    English Yusuf Ali: [2:39]
    "But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein."

    [2:257]
    English Yusuf Ali: [2:257]
    Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever).

    [43:77]
    English Yusuf Ali: [43:77]
    They will cry: "O Malik! would that thy Lord put an end to us!" He will say, "Nay, but ye shall abide!"

    [64:10]
    English Yusuf Ali: [64:10]
    But those who reject Faith and treat Our Signs as falsehoods, they will be Companions of the Fire, to dwell therein for aye: and evil is that Goal.
    moreover....

    Quote Originally Posted by Al-Fateh View Post
    [6:128]
    English Yusuf Ali: [6:128]
    One day will He gather them all together, (and say): "O ye assembly of Jinns! Much (toll) did ye take of men." Their friends amongst men will say: "Our Lord! we made profit from each other: but (alas!) we reached our term - which thou didst appoint for us." He will say: "The Fire be your dwelling-place: you will dwell therein for ever, except as Allah willeth." for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge.



    this verse is very misunderstood by MANY muslims....

    Tafsir Al-Jalalayn

    و اذكر يوم نحشرهم بالنون والياء أي الله الخلق جميعا ويقال لهم يا معشر الجن قد استكثرتم من الإنس بإغوائكم وقال أولياؤهم الذين أطاعوهم من الإنس ربنا استمتع بعضنا ببعض انتفع الإنس بتزيين الجن لهم الشهوات والجن بطاعة الإنس لهم . وبلغنا أجلنا الذي أجلت لنا وهو يوم القيامة وهذا تحسر منهم قال تعالى لهم على لسان الملائكة: النار مثواكم مأواكم خالدين فيها إلا ما شاء الله من الأوقات التي يخرجون فيها لشرب الحميم فإنه خارجها كما قال تعالى ثم إن مرجعهم لإلى الجحيم وعن ابن عباس انه فيمن علم الله أنهم يؤمنون فما بمعنى من إن ربك حكيم في صنعه عليم بخلقه

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    خالدين فيها إلا ما شاء الله استثناء ليس من الأول. قال الزجاج : يرجع إلى يوم القيامة، أي خالدين في النار إلا ما شاء الله من مقدار حشرهم من قبورهم ومقدار مدتهم في الحساب، فالاستثناء منقطع. وقيل: يرجع الاستثناء إلى النار، أي إلا ما شاء الله من تعذيبكم بغير النار في بعض الأوقات. وقال ابن عباس: الاستثناء لأهل الإيمان. فــما على هذا بمعنى من. وعنه أيضاً أنه قال: هذه الآية توجب الوقف في جميع الكفار. ومعنى ذلك أنها توجب الوقف فيمن لم يمت، إذ قد يسلم. وقيل: إلا ما شاء الله من كونهم في الدنيا بغير عذاب. ومعنى هذه الآية معنى الآية التي في هود. قوله: فأما الذين شقوا ففي النار وهناك يأتي مستوفىً إن شاء الله. إن ربك حكيم أي في عقوبتهم وفي جميع أفعاله عليم [هود: 106] بمقدار مجازاتهم.


    * تفسير Tafsir al-Jalalayn
    { وَيَوْمَ يِحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعاً يَامَعْشَرَ ٱلْجِنِّ قَدِ ٱسْتَكْثَرْتُمْ مِّنَ ٱلإِنْسِ وَقَالَ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُم مِّنَ ٱلإِنْسِ رَبَّنَا ٱسْتَمْتَعَ بَعْضُنَا بِبَعْضٍ وَبَلَغْنَآ أَجَلَنَا ٱلَّذِيۤ أَجَّلْتَ لَنَا قَالَ ٱلنَّارُ مَثْوَاكُمْ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَآ إِلاَّ مَا شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ حَكِيمٌ عَليمٌ }

    And, mention, the day when He, God, shall gather them (yahshuruhum, may also read nahshuruhum, 'We shall gather them'), that is, creatures, all together, and it will be said to them: 'O assembly of jinn, you have garnered much of mankind', by your misleading [them]. Then their friends, those who obeyed them, from among mankind will say, 'Our Lord, we enjoyed one another, mankind enjoyed what the jinn adorned for them of passions, while the jinn [enjoyed] mankind's obedience to them; but now we have arrived at the term which You have appointed for us', that is, the Day of Resurrection - this [statement] expresses extreme regret on their part. He, exalted be He, will say, to them, by the tongues of the angels: 'The Fire is your lodging, your abode, to abide therein' - except what God wills, of those times when they will exit from it in order to drink boiling water, which is located outside it, as God, exalted be He, has said: Then they shall return to the Hell-fire [Q. 37:68]; according to Ibn 'Abbās, this [proviso] pertains to those whom God knows will believe (mā, 'what', thus has the sense of man, 'whom'). Surely your Lord is Wise, in His actions, Knowing, of His creatures.


    * تفسير Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
    { وَيَوْمَ يِحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعاً يَامَعْشَرَ ٱلْجِنِّ قَدِ ٱسْتَكْثَرْتُمْ مِّنَ ٱلإِنْسِ وَقَالَ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُم مِّنَ ٱلإِنْسِ رَبَّنَا ٱسْتَمْتَعَ بَعْضُنَا بِبَعْضٍ وَبَلَغْنَآ أَجَلَنَا ٱلَّذِيۤ أَجَّلْتَ لَنَا قَالَ ٱلنَّارُ مَثْوَاكُمْ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَآ إِلاَّ مَا شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ حَكِيمٌ عَليمٌ }

    (In the day when He will gather them together) the Jinn and human beings ((He will say): O ye assembly of the Jinn! Many of humankind did ye seduce) how many human beings have erred by seeking help in you. (And their adherents) the adherents of the Jinn (among humankind) who sought help in the leaders of the Jinn upon camping at a valley or hunting a beast of theirs, used to say: 'we seek refuge in the master of this valley from the foolish among his people', and used to feel safe after saying this, (will say: Our Lord!) O our Lord! (We enjoyed one another) we benefited from one another; the benefit of the human beings was safety from the Jinn, and that of the Jinn, their status and position among their people (but now we have arrived at the appointed term which Thou appointedst for us) i.e. death. (He) Allah (will say) to them: (Fire is your home) is your dwelling, O group of Jinn. (Abide therein for ever) abiding in the Fire, (save him whom Allah willeth (to deliver)) but Allah wills that they abide therein for eternity. (Lo! thy Lord is Wise) He decreed that they will abide in Hell for ever, (Aware) of them and of their punishment.
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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    To submit to God, you need to obey His final Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him.) There are no more prophets of Allaah after him and therefore we need belief aswell as action for a deed to be accepted in the sight of Allaah. If either is missing - then it shows that the person hasn't truely submitted to God since they are taking a pick and mix of God's message.



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    Did Adam and Eve follow Mohammad?

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    Did Adam and Eve follow Mohammad?

    Adam was a prophet of God after he repented for his mistake, and therefore what he was commanded to do - his progeny followed him in that. Therefore they were muslim since they obeyed the Prophet and submitted to Allaah.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    Adam was a prophet of God after he repented for his mistake, and therefore what he was commanded to do - his progeny followed him in that. Therefore they were muslim since they obeyed the Prophet and submitted to Allaah.
    Since Adam was a prophet, he had created a complete religion, then why does it become important to follow Mohammad?

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    No, thank you for your patients, all of you.
    Thanks.


    Do I as a Christian fit this description? Do other religions fulfill these requirements?

    You have to ask yourself, do you truelly believe in the message of Christ son of Mary (peace be upon him)?


    They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

    They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

    Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


    Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

    Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things."

    Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.

    Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.


    [Qur'an The Table Spread 5: 72-78]

    I submit to its greatness, I listen to the profits, and I try and do good deeds for all of his creation. Submission is an important piece in Christianity.

    Then why not submit to the Creator of the worlds? This is the true message of Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them.) Never did he tell the people to worship him. Even check in the bible yourself.


    "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your Name, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Luke 11:2; Matt. 6:9-10)

    "I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of Him Who sent me." (John 5:30)

    "No one knows about the Day or Hour, not even the angels in heaven, not the son, but only the Father." (Mark 13:32)




    About the only difference I see (so far … I am new) is that I think God will keep talking, showing, and hopefully guiding us so that we may grow into the loving beings he wants us to be. I also believe this is only a small difference, and that the love and good deeds of all enlightened people and those that follow them are the actions that bind us to the likeness of our father.

    God has revealed to His final Messenger the love and Mercy;

    And remember! your Lord caused to be declared (publicly): "If ye are grateful [by believing and submitting to Allaah], I will add more (favours) unto you; But if ye show ingratitude [and disbelieve], truly My punishment is terrible indeed." [Qur'an 14:7]

    Would a loving God condemn a person for such a slight difference?

    God is inviting us towards His paradise, and if we submit to Him and obey His final Messenger, then we will be rewarded an endless reward. But those who turn away when the clear message is given to them, why should they be rewarded when they take God's message in jest?



    I await my judgment with a childlike anticipation, for I know we all will walk into heaven arm and arm singing the praise’s god, each in their own voice. Our father will welcome us home in the manor that each of his children’s hearts, minds and bodies will embrace like a child embraces their mother.

    The Day of Judgement draws near, and man will be questioned about his deeds. Did they obey the Messenger? If not - why not?

    We can't take a pick and mix of the messengers but we accept them all, and God's final Messenger was Muhammad (peace be upon him) who confirmed the message of Moses, Jesus, and cleared the misconceptions the people after them had. How about reading the Qur'an to truely understand the message? If you are sincere, God will guide you:


    “and ask Allaah of His Bounty. Surely, Allaah is Ever All‑Knower of everything”

    [al-Nisa’ 4:32]




    Allaah the Almighty said:


    “O My slaves, all of you are astray except those whom I guide, so ask Me for guidance, and I will guide you. O My slaves, all of you are hungry except those whom I feed, so ask me for food and I will feed you. O My slaves, all of you are naked except those whom I clothe, so ask Me for clothing and I will clothe you. … O My slaves, if the first of you and the last of you, your humans and your jinn, were to stand on a single plain and ask of Me and I were to give each one what he asked for, that would not cause any loss to Me greater than what is lost when a needle is dipped into the sea.”


    Narrated by Muslim (2577).






    Am I way off with this?

    AB517

    If you are sincere, then God will guide you. How many people are they who were sincere and they were guided on the straight path, and how much people ignored the clear proofs when they came to them, and they lost the great reward that Allaah had in store for them.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    online dawah requires too much patience, wallahi how do we know if the people are listening? How do we know if they are mocking us, we cant even modify ourselves to suit the situation!!




    fi-sab, utmost respect, keep it up akhee
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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by cali dude View Post
    Since Adam was a prophet, he had created a complete religion, then why does it become important to follow Mohammad?

    He never created a completely new religion since he was the first human. He submitted to Allaah and so did his family. Which shows that the first religion among mankind was Islaam.

    As time progressed - people turned away from the religion of Allaah and started worshipping idols, although they thought them to be saints. This is when Prophet Noah was sent - to call them back to the original religion of submission to Allaah.


    As time has progressed, people have strayed from the true religion of the previous Messenger, so Allaah sent them a prophet. So Allaah sent them a warner and giver of glad tidings, those who believed in the prophet and submitted to Allaah's call were saved, but those who disbelieved were destroyed since they never fulfilled the purpose of creation and rejected Allaah's messengers arrogantly. After them others inherited the land and took their place. Satan would come to them again to make them associate partners with Allaah in worship - even though he can't force no-one to do anything. The people had a freedom of choice, some followed their way while others obeyed the Prophets, the believers were persecuted for this by their people. Those who disbelieved used the excuse that our forefathers did the same. Again - the warner [of the consequences of disbelief and hellfire] and giver of glad tidings [of Allaah's mercy and reward] was sent - some rejected while others accepted.


    This has been happening since the beginning of mankind, and satan called the people to disbelief out of envy for the children of Adam. Those who believed & submitted will be rewarded with an endless reward, since that is the eternal home for those who submit to Allaah, the home where Adam and his wife will return to which Allaah has promised for His believing servants. However, those who rejected the message of Allaah and chose disbelief over belief were warned by the Messenger, and if they persisted in their disbelief - they would remain in the fire forever. Since they felt too arrogant to submit to Allaah - their own Creator! and to obey His Messenger.

    We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. [Qur'an 14:4]


    We know the Messenger of Allaah, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said that there have been over 124,000 prophets who were sent by God as is authentically recorded in Musnad Ahmad.


    And Muhammad is Allaah's final Messenger (peace be upon him), as Allaah says in His final message in the Qur'an:

    Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things. [Qur'an 33:40]


    If you have more questions - please don't hesitate to ask.




    Regards.
    Last edited by - Qatada -; 04-12-2007 at 05:33 PM.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    He never created a completely new religion since he was the first human.
    What exactly do you mean? He never created a completely new religion because a religion existed already or are you saying that he didn't create a religion that was complete?

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    What exactly do you mean? He never created a completely new religion because a religion existed already or are you saying that he didn't create a religion that was complete?

    He never created a new religion since the angels already worshipped Allaah, and Islaam is submission - therefore he was fulfilling the purpose he was created for. Since he was the first man, the first religion revealed to mankind is Islaam.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    He never created a new religion since the angels already worshipped Allaah, and Islaam is submission - therefore he was fulfilling the purpose he was created for. Since he was the first man, the first religion revealed to mankind is Islaam.
    Was the religion revealed to Adam same as religion revealed to Mohammad?

    By the way, how years ago were Adam and Eve were created?

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    Was the religion revealed to Adam same as religion revealed to Mohammad?

    The religion was the same - there is none worthy of worship except your Creator, your Sustainer - Allaah, the Lord of all that exists.

    However, every prophet who came to his nation may have had different social laws due to the difference of the time-frame, location etc. But the call was the same.



    By the way, how years ago were Adam and Eve were created?

    I don't know, we havn't been given an exact number since that isn't required for us to realise that Islaam is the truth. Because whether we knew when they were alive or we never, it doesn't really harm or benefit us does it?



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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    The religion was the same - there is none worthy of worship except your Creator, your Sustainer - Allaah, the Lord of all that exists.

    However, every prophet who came to his nation may have had different social laws due to the difference of the time-frame, location etc. But the call was the same.
    So what you are saying is that the main thing common in religion revealed to Adam and Mohammad was to submit to God although there could be social differences. Am I correct?

    Did both, Mohammad and Adam, preach the same way to submit to God?

    Did the social differences make a religion right or wrong?



    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    I don't know, we havn't been given an exact number since that isn't required for us to realise that Islaam is the truth. Because whether we knew when they were alive or we never, it doesn't really harm or benefit us does it?

    Regards.
    It's important to find out the time-frame because apparently there was Hinduism on the other side of the world, which apparently existed even 5000 years ago...

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by cali dude View Post
    So what you are saying is that the main thing common in religion revealed to Adam and Mohammad was to submit to God although there could be social differences. Am I correct?

    All the Prophets of Allaah recieved revelation from Him, and therefore they worshipped Him in the way Allaah prescribed them to worship Him. So yeah, there were certain differences for example for the Children of Isra'eel [some of the nation who followed the law of Prophet Moses - the spoils of war were forbidden for them, however they are permitted in this ummah [nation.]] And similarly alcohol wasn't forbidden for some nations, whereas it is forbidden in the ummah of Allaah's final Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him.)

    So the legislations differed because Allaah knew best what the weaknesses of each ummah was, however each prophet called to the worship of Allaah Alone, they warned their people of the Day of Judgement, they told them that if they believed and submitted - they would be rewarded with Paradise by Allaah, and if anyone rejected and rebelled against Allaah - then Allaah is not in need of them and they will be thrown into the fire for disobeying Allaah and His Messenger. We seek refuge in Allaah from that.


    Did both, Mohammad and Adam, preach the same way to submit to God?
    It's explained above.

    Did the social differences make a religion right or wrong?

    Whatever messenger is sent to his people, these people have to obey the Messenger sent to them. Muhammad (peace be upon him) is Allaah's final Messenger, and therefore anyone who comes after he recieved revelation - then they have to obey him. There is no other option since we can't take a pick and mix of which messenger/prophet we follow. Since that is taking Allaah's message in jest and mockery. Those who mock Allaah's message and messenger and die without submitting and repenting, then they have disbelieved, and the disbelievers will be in the fire, with no helper to abide therein forever.



    It's important to find out the time-frame because apparently there was Hinduism on the other side of the world, which apparently existed even 5000 years ago...

    It was way longer than hinduism since we know that Prophet Ibraheem [Abraham] (peace be upon him) was alive longer than 5000years ago, even the jews today can testify to this. We know that there have been prophets before him and we also know that Prophet Ibraheem was a descendant of Prophet Noah, and Prophet Noah was of the first messengers of Allaah. Therefore this earth and the prophets have been coming way longer than just 5000 years ago. And Allaah knows best.



    Regards.
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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    All the Prophets of Allaah recieved revelation from Him, and therefore they worshipped Him in the way Allaah prescribed them to worship Him.
    Was the way prescribed to Adam the same as the way prescribed to Mohammad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    So yeah, there were certain differences for example for the Children of Isra'eel [some of the nation who followed the law of Prophet Moses - the spoils of war were forbidden for them, however they are permitted in this ummah [nation.]] And similarly alcohol wasn't forbidden for some nations, whereas it is forbidden in the ummah of Allaah's final Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him.)
    Does it really make sense to say that they all had the same message of God and yet the message was different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    Whatever messenger is sent to his people, these people have to obey the Messenger sent to them. Muhammad (peace be upon him) is Allaah's final Messenger, and therefore anyone who comes after he recieved revelation - then they have to obey him. There is no other option since we can't take a pick and mix of which messenger/prophet we follow. Since that is taking Allaah's message in jest and mockery. Those who mock Allaah's message and messenger and die without submitting and repenting, then they have disbelieved, and the disbelievers will be in the fire, with no helper to abide therein forever.
    If there is one way to submit to God, how would it matter which prophet one followed? You are actually following the way to submit to God, not necessarily the prophet. Why should it matter? Why should the way to submit in Islam be any different than any of the other religions before Islam?

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by cali dude View Post
    Was the way prescribed to Adam the same as the way prescribed to Mohammad?

    Some of the social laws probably differed, like i said previously - due to the different circumstances.


    Does it really make sense to say that they all had the same message of God and yet the message was different?
    Are you purposelly ignoring what i say? I've mentioned that the social laws differed due to the different circumstances, however Allaah told His Messengers how He wanted to be worshipped - and the call of the Messengers was the same. To shun all false deities and to obey Allaah and the Messenger, the Messenger who had clear proofs and told the people to obey for their own benefit, while the messenger asked for no profit from his people.


    If there is one way to submit to God, how would it matter which prophet one followed?

    You are actually following the way to submit to God, not necessarily the prophet. Why should it matter? Why should the way to submit in Islam be any different than any of the other religions before Islam?

    Because Allaah chose His final messenger to be the One whose law we follow after him, all the previous laws have been distorted as we can see today. And due to that - we can't follow something which has been distorted by the people since the prophets only came to their own people, unlike Allaah's final Messenger.


    For example if we take the bible, we see that Jesus son of Mary, peace be upon him is being ordered to:

    “Go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel!” Matthew 10:6]


    Whereas Muhammad (peace be upon him) is being told:

    "Say: 'O mankind! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth."
    (Qur'an 7:158)



    You see the difference?



    Regards.


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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    I don't care what Islam says, Buddhism says, Sikhism says, Judaism says.

    I am not going to hell as the God I know isn't evil.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    God isn't evil ^ You're judged on your own actions and whether you obeyed the Messenger He sent to you. If you obeyed and did good, then you did good for your own sake [and you will be rewarded for that], but if you rejected God's Messengers', were ungrateful and disobeyed - then you do so for your own loss.

    God is not injust to any of His servants. However man is unjust to his ownself.


    Allaah says:

    “O My slaves, all of you are astray except those whom I guide, so ask Me for guidance, and I will guide you. O My slaves, all of you are hungry except those whom I feed, so ask me for food and I will feed you. O My slaves, all of you are naked except those whom I clothe, so ask Me for clothing and I will clothe you. … O My slaves, if the first of you and the last of you, your humans and your jinn, were to stand on a single plain and ask of Me and I were to give each one what he asked for, that would not cause any loss to Me greater than what is lost when a needle is dipped into the sea.”

    Narrated by Muslim (2577).

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    God isn't evil ^ You're judged on your own actions and whether you obeyed the Messenger He sent to you. If you obeyed and did good, then you did good for your own sake [and you will be rewarded for that], but if you rejected God's Messengers', were ungrateful and disobeyed - then you do so for your own loss.

    God is not injust to any of His servants. However man is unjust to his ownself.


    Allaah says:

    “O My slaves, all of you are astray except those whom I guide, so ask Me for guidance, and I will guide you. O My slaves, all of you are hungry except those whom I feed, so ask me for food and I will feed you. O My slaves, all of you are naked except those whom I clothe, so ask Me for clothing and I will clothe you. … O My slaves, if the first of you and the last of you, your humans and your jinn, were to stand on a single plain and ask of Me and I were to give each one what he asked for, that would not cause any loss to Me greater than what is lost when a needle is dipped into the sea.”

    Narrated by Muslim (2577).


    Second on that, brother!


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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

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    I don't care what Islam says, Buddhism says, Sikhism says, Judaism says.

    I am not going to hell as the God I know isn't evil.
    Hi.

    edit
    Bye!
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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    I've done good throughout my life, done deeds. God won't send me to hell because I didn't go down on my knees 5 times a day. God, I am sure, is proud of the way I have lived my life and my way of life.

    Any religion that preaches that God will send you to hell because you didn't get down and pray to Him is false. I can say that with full confidence because like I said, God isn't evil.

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    Re: are ALL non-muslims abided in HELL...(completely explained here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal View Post
    Edited as requested.
    You read my comment wrong. Being told that God will send me to hell because I'm not a muslim needs that response. That is insulting to God itself. Anyone that would even think of that would portray Him as evil. He isn't and I'm not going to hell.
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