I was debating the bible on a Christian forum about its corruption and someone posted this:
format_quote Originally Posted by someguy
All this talk of corruptible texts. The fact is they all have undergone changes. It doesn't matter which one one looks at this is the case and that includes the Quran. The fact that the earliest quranic inscriptions on the dome of the rock(80 odd years after Mohammeds reported death) differ from the texts of today is proof enough. The addition of diacritical dots to the Arabic texts is another issue.The earliest extant Quran is written in a style from a period many hundreds of years after the chronology attributed to Mohammed. Etc etc.
The primary difference is how the Quran is regarded by it's followers nowadays when compared to the Gospels/Bible/Torah. It is the start and end point. This was not always the case but the Gospels/Bible/Torah have been subjected to far greater historical and theological analysis than the Quran has ever been. That continues today.
The Quran has obviously been studied and studied intensely, but the start point is the infallibility of same not it's origin. That is not questioned by Quranic scholars. Many outside researchers have found different voices in the texts, inconsistencies and historical innacuracies. Mecca not being mentioned at all before the Islamic texts, yet those same texts claim it was a very important centre of trade(the Greeks and others make no mention of it until much later after Islam starts to make it's presence felt in the region). Indeed the Islamic histories admit that there were different versions that were excised, accepted and collated under the first caliph. That was inspired by God. Sound familiar? The difficulty also comes from the lack of secondary texts that exist from the time when compared to the other texts. Indeed a lack of historical data from neighbouring cultures is unusual, given the importance placed by Islamic sources of the movement. The other difficulty is the danger of historical research like this for the researchers.
Can you please help me refute these claims against the Quran?
I have no idea what I am talking about dear vpb? Very well, label me as whatever your heart desires. It makes no difference, and certainly does not change any facts.
sorry bro, didn't mean to offend u. I later re-read the post and found the meaning different.
please forgive me/
With the name of ALLAH (God Almigthy) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful
Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)
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format_quote Originally Posted by Basirah
Are we suppose to read about the Christian Bible from Islamic sites? How about reading about the Quran from Agnostic sites? It seems logically off.
br Yusuf Estete was a Christian missionary
.He , his dad , wife , Chrisitan missionary fried ....all embraced Islam ....Alhamdulillah.
He studied Bible through all his life ...so u can't dismiss his writings on Bible . I visited some non-Muslims sites where they claimed Islam allows homosexuality , Muslms will go to heaven if they are cruel to slaves , Allah is a moon god etc .
Anybody who has minimum knowledge about Islam will understand they are spreading hatred & lies.
Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172
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