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    Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in other Scriptures.

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    Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) in the Bible.

    by Dr. Zakir Naik



    Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) in the Old Testament:

    The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

    "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".


    1. Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) Prophesised in the book of Deuteronomy:

    Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (peace be upon him) because Jesus (peace be upon him) was like Moses (peace be upon him). Moses (peace be upon him) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (peace be upon him) was a Jew. Moses (peace be upon him) was a Prophet and Jesus (peace be upon him) was also a Prophet.

    If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
    Moses (peace be upon him) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (peace be upon them all) will
    fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.


    However, it is Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) who is like Moses (peace be upon him):


    i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

    [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]


    ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

    iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive.
    (4:157-158)


    Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is from among the brethren of Moses (peace be upon him). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (peace be upon him) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (peace be upon him) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (peace be upon him).


    Words in the mouth:

    Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    [Deuteronomy 18:18]



    iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

    v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
    people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

    iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).


    2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19

    "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."



    3. Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:

    It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

    "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."


    When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".


    4. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) mentioned by name in the old testament:

    Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

    "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."


    "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."


    In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is yet present.



    To Be continued...
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family)in the Bible

    may i add a few cents to this discussion as a former Jehovahs witness and brainwashed one at that........it is difficult to say.....as the bible has been changed so many times that the translations have been lost.....

    but we can all assume what the bible is trying to say and gain our own answers but we have so many christian religions and sects that gain different meanings from the bible that its difficlut to know what was changed and what wasnt........thats just my humble opinion though if i am allowed to provide it here......Peace to you all....
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) in the Bible.

    Lecturer: Imaam Anwar al-Awlaki - Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) prophecised in the Bible:


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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family)in the Bible

    sorry i know this is going off topic a little but-wow-bro james you used to be a jehovah's witness? subhanallah!
    what made you accept islam (need some advice for the next time they come at our door insha allah)
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family)in the Bible

    Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in the New Testament:

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
    All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


    1. John chapter 14 verse 16:

    "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."



    2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:


    "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
    proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."



    3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

    "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
    come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".



    "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.

    Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

    Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
    Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
    Muhammad (pbuh).


    4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

    "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
    come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".


    The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)



    NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.


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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family)in the Bible

    yup Jesus (P) prophesied the coming of the comforter
    1 comforter will confirm jesus (P)
    2 what he brings will not be from himself but from God
    3 he will explain all things in detail
    4 what he brings will remain with you (addressing disciples) forever

    the quran confirms prophet Jesus(P) -surah maryam
    the quran is revelation from Allah
    the quran is called the criterion-shariah, fiqh issues
    the quran hasn't changed a single bit since it was revealed 1427 yrs ago
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    Jazakallah khair for the info bro!!
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    jesus was the last prophet according to christianity, until he returns. the Bible even says so.. Jesus said "this is the end" before he was crucified.

    also, for anyone to be a prophet, they must have been a jew.. so there's no way mohammad could have been.

    and jesus did have a father.

    also, so moses said he will have raise up a prophet like him.. but is it EXACTLY like him? No. not at all.

    and even if so, the prophet in the old testiment [torah] predicted was jesus. and islam accepts this fact too. because you guys claim it was predicting mohammad.. but the torah was predicting ONE messiah, so it's either mohammad or jesus.. but iff you guys believe it was mohammad, then you have to reject Jesus [issa] as a prophet all together.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    jesus was the last prophet according to christianity, until he returns. the Bible even says so.. Jesus said "this is the end" before he was crucified.
    So according to the Gospel Authors who said Jesus said 'this is the end' it meant 'there will be no more prophets'?

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    also, for anyone to be a prophet, they must have been a jew.. so there's no way mohammad could have been.
    Enlighten me where this is in the Bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    and jesus did have a father.
    Who was?

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    also, so moses said he will have raise up a prophet like him.. but is it EXACTLY like him? No. not at all.
    Noone claims EXACTLY, else it'd be his clone or something. Similar, i.e. Like.

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    and even if so, the prophet in the old testiment [torah] predicted was jesus. and islam accepts this fact too. because you guys claim it was predicting mohammad.. but the torah was predicting ONE messiah, so it's either mohammad or jesus.. but iff you guys believe it was mohammad, then you have to reject Jesus [issa] as a prophet all together.
    First, who said Dueteronomy 18:18 was about a Messiah, also where does Islam accept that? Rather, both Jesus and Muhammad could have been prophecied in different places.

    Please be patient with me,

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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    jesus's father was joseph.

    oh, and i take the back, the Torah never does say the prophets must be jewish.

    however, if you read the Torah completely, it predicts ONE messiah in the future.. one. no more then that. it basically talks about all of the prophets that have come and their laws, and then it says that in the future another prophet will come.. but no other prophets. just one messiah. and muslims can't think that mohammad was the one, because although he may very well fit the discription of the messiah, islam also accepts jesus as a prophet, which would be impossible according to the torah.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
    3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
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    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God (QUOTE)

    meaning. he was human, not divine ..
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    Hi ,

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    jesus's father was joseph.

    oh, and i take the back, the Torah never does say the prophets must be jewish.

    however, if you read the Torah completely, it predicts ONE messiah in the future.. one. no more then that. it basically talks about all of the prophets that have come and their laws, and then it says that in the future another prophet will come.. but no other prophets. just one messiah. and muslims can't think that mohammad was the one, because although he may very well fit the discription of the messiah, islam also accepts jesus as a prophet, which would be impossible according to the torah.
    I don't think anyone believes Joseph was the proper father of Jesus.

    No worries.

    There are many prophecies which dont say 'this is about the messiah' there are prophecies which people interpret to be about THE messiah.

    And Hi Doug,

    format_quote Originally Posted by dougmusr View Post
    1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
    3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
    Alhamdulilah, Great passage which shows the validity of Islam, thanks. Peace be upon Jesus and his Mother.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by DAWUD_adnan View Post
    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God (QUOTE)

    meaning. he was human, not divine ..
    peace....
    1 John 1: 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--
    2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--
    3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
    4 And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.

    John indicates that Christ is the Son of God, and that He was from the beginning. In the flesh therefore refers to the fact the Christ, the Son of God, took on human form. It would be my interpretation of these passages that denying Christ's heavenly preexistance as the Son of God is also denying that Christ came in the flesh. Accepting Christ as a prophet does not pass the "came in the flesh" test as I read these verses.

    Just as Jews do not believe Christ was a prophet, and Muslims do ot believe that Jesus was the Son of God, Christians do not believe Muhammad was a prophet.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    Hmmm... the same scriptures say the Moshiach will begin sacrifices on the temple mount again. They also say all war will be over when he arrives... hmmm... They also say if he does not complete one of these things then he is false... Hmmm... was Muhommad Moshiach? Not unless you deliberatly wish to change the Jewish scriptures.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    hah that is very true.
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    Peace be upon those who follow guidance,

    Hi doug, thanks for you reply

    format_quote Originally Posted by dougmusr View Post
    1 John 1: 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--
    2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--
    3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
    4 And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.

    John indicates that Christ is the Son of God, and that He was from the beginning. In the flesh therefore refers to the fact the Christ, the Son of God, took on human form. It would be my interpretation of these passages that denying Christ's heavenly preexistance as the Son of God is also denying that Christ came in the flesh. Accepting Christ as a prophet does not pass the "came in the flesh" test as I read these verses.

    Just as Jews do not believe Christ was a prophet, and Muslims do ot believe that Jesus was the Son of God, Christians do not believe Muhammad was a prophet.
    I disagree, but please correct my understanding if you see any flaws in it.

    You said "John indicates that Christ is the Son of God, and that He was from the beginning." Rather, the author of the writing is writing a letter which is talking about himself having witnessed the happenings, as you see "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--"

    It feels like this is a re-affermation that he had been there in the beggining, that he had seen and touched and heard from early on, the start of the 'mission', I do not see anything here about Jesus existing before life on earth.

    But even if he did it would not be a problem, Jesus' pre-existance, or G-d's knowledge of Jesus is not a problem and does no constitute Jesus being G-d or anything.

    format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas View Post
    Hmmm... the same scriptures say the Moshiach will begin sacrifices on the temple mount again. They also say all war will be over when he arrives... hmmm... They also say if he does not complete one of these things then he is false... Hmmm... was Muhommad Moshiach? Not unless you deliberatly wish to change the Jewish scriptures.
    Just wondering, what do you as in Jews render the word to?


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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    jesus was the last prophet according to christianity, until he returns. the Bible even says so.. Jesus said "this is the end" before he was crucified.

    also, for anyone to be a prophet, they must have been a jew.. so there's no way mohammad could have been.
    and jesus did have a father.

    also, so moses said he will have raise up a prophet like him.. but is it EXACTLY like him? No. not at all.

    and even if so, the prophet in the old testiment [torah] predicted was jesus. and islam accepts this fact too. because you guys claim it was predicting mohammad.. but the torah was predicting ONE messiah, so it's either mohammad or jesus.. but iff you guys believe it was mohammad, then you have to reject Jesus [issa] as a prophet all together.
    where oh where did you get THAT idea??? Moses WASN'T a "Jew"! neither were Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Joseph!!! before the birth of Judah, the concept didn't exist...


    also, it's really difficult to compare Jesus to Moses. we are told that the stuff that Jesus did "could fill volumes", and yet all we have are 4 gospels, 3 of which are greek copies of an original Aramean/Hebrew document! Paul is held responsible for more of the current christian culture than Jesus.

    the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), on the other hand, delivered the Qur'an which is a complete way of life, a new covenant, VERY MUCH SIMILAR to what Moses brought!

    and no-one says that the Prophet (pbuh) was the Jewish Messiah! that title belongs to Jesus. Muhammed (pbuh) message was for the entire world!
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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

    With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


    Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)


    &&&

    without reading the whole thread , is it ok to jump in ?



    Muslim Christian Dialogue


    Art Thou That Prophet?

    The Jews sent priests and Levites to John the Baptist to ask who he really was. John 1:20-21:

    "And he [John the Baptist] confessed and denied not; but confessed, 'I am not the Christ.'

    And they asked him: 'What then? Art thou Elias? 'And he saith: 'I am not.' 'Art thou that prophet?' And he answered: 'No."'


    The crucial question here is: Art thou that prophet? Who was the long awaited prophet who was to come after the advent of Jesus (p)and John the Baptist (p) ?

    http://www.iad.org/books/MCD.html



    I m curious to know , what Christians think about
    ' that Prophet '? Regarding Bible , who is he ?
    Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in other Scriptures.

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

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    Re: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512 View Post
    jesus's father was joseph.

    oh, and i take the back, the Torah never does say the prophets must be jewish.

    however, if you read the Torah completely, it predicts ONE messiah in the future.. one. no more then that. it basically talks about all of the prophets that have come and their laws, and then it says that in the future another prophet will come.. but no other prophets. just one messiah. and muslims can't think that mohammad was the one, because although he may very well fit the discription of the messiah, islam also accepts jesus as a prophet, which would be impossible according to the torah.
    nuff said
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