Christianity-Islam

format_quote Originally Posted by ShalomAll

1. Heaven and Hell, Does one need Allah in there lifes to go to heaven because I think in the Koran it sais that Allah sent the Christian Scriptures and also why saves someone from Hell is it Faith or Works?

We have no concept of having Allah inhabiting our lives, but rather that we submit our lives to Him as demonstrated by following the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him, or saaws). Judgment Day and the determination of one's place in the Hereafter rests solely with Allah. The Qur'an promises Gardens of Paradise for those who believe in the Oneness of God and do good deeds such as prayer, fasting, charity, kindness to parents, etc. Prophet Muhammad (saaws) was sent as a Messenger to all mankind to teach them proper belief and to demonstrate how to worship God (Allah) and how best to live our lives. We Muslims strive to pattern our lives after the example of Muhammad (saaws).

2. Denominations, Shiite, Sunni, I dont know how to phrase this question but ill try: Witch Muslim denomination is based on the teaching of the Koran?

The Sunni and Shia are the 2 main categories of Muslims, but as GraceSeeker indicated the differences are more political than religious. To promote unity among Muslims, discussions about these differences on this forum are strongly discouraged.

3. To convert does one need to attend any ceremony or anything to approve the conversion?

First one must be taught the basics of the Islamic faith and if he/she believes that these articles of faith are true and he/she agrees to follow the example of Prophet Muhammad (saaws), then to become a Muslim one must state, "Ashadu an la ilaha illallah, wa ashadu anna Muhammadan rasul'Allah" which means "I bear witness that there is no god but One God and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God". Thereafter the person strives to adhere to the Sunnah or traditions of Muhammad, for example in praying 5 times a day in a prescribed manner.

4. Isreal, Who's land is it?

It is Allah's land.

5. Jesus, What are you positions on Him?

That he was a highly respected Servant, Prophet, and Messenger of Allah. That he was the son of the virgin Mary without a human father. That Allah said, "Be" and he was miraculously created in the womb of Mary along the same lines that Allah created Adam from clay. That it is disbelief in the Oneness of Allah to say that Jesus (as) was the "Son of God". That he did not die upon the cross, but rather was raised to Heaven without dying. That he will return to rule the earth near the end of time.

6. Movies and Video games is one entitled to play watch Violent Movies/video Games?

I have no opinion on this.

Salam

1. Heaven and Hell, Does one need Allah in there lifes to go to heaven

By having Allah in their life, you mean obeying the commandments of Allah then yes, we need to obey Allah to go to heaven. But by having Allah, you mean having the mercy of Allah then the answer is also yes. We require the mercy of Allah to go to heaven.
Sahih Muslim Book 39, Number 6760:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: None amongst you would attain salvation purely because of his deeds. A person said: Allah's Messenger, even you also. Thereupon he said: Yes. Not even I, but that Allah wraps me in Mercy, but you should act with moderation.

because I think in the Koran it sais that Allah sent the Christian Scriptures

Quran says that Torah was revealed to Moses and Injeel (translated gospel) was revealed to Jesus. But according to Islam, the present Bible is not the word of God since Muslims, along with many Christian historians, believe that Bible is unauthentic.

and also why saves someone from Hell is it Faith or Works?

When it comes to salvation, Quran says
103.001 وَالْعَصْرِ
103.001 By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),
103.002 إِنَّ الإنْسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ
103.002 Verily Man is in loss,
103.003 إِلا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ
103.003 Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.
Al-Qur'an, 103.001-003 (Al-Asr [The Declining Day, Eventide, The Epoch])
Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.910
So salvation requires 4 conditions. 1)Having faith, 2)doing righteous deeds 3)Calling others towards the right path 4)preaching patience
In addition, as explained in the Hadith quoted above, we also require mercy of Allah.

2. Denominations, Shiite, Sunni, I dont know how to phrase this question but ill try: Witch Muslim denomination is based on the teaching of the Koran?

The basics of Islam are the same. When it comes to the fundamentals, Sunni and Shiite have no difference. I also agree that the differences are more political than religious. Though I personally agree with the Sunni point of view, I still don't like to be labelled as a Sunni. The label of Muslim is just fine. I'm sure many Shiite have the same opinion. Also, division in Islam is strictly prohibited.

006.159 إِنَّ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا لَسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ إِنَّمَا أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُمْ بِمَا كَانُوا يَفْعَلُونَ
006.159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
Al-Qur'an, 006.159 (Al-Anaam [Cattle, Livestock])
Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.910

3. To convert does one need to attend any ceremony or anything to approve the conversion?

To convert you only require to recite the "Shahadah" as given by MustafaMC

4. Isreal, Who's land is it?

That is more of a political question, not religious. The Quran never told Muslims that Israel must be under your rule. However, Quran tells us to fight those who drive us out of our homes, but fighting is always the last resort. Practically, Muslims don't approve that we should drive all the Jews out of Israel. We only point out that the Jews from Europe came and occupied Muslim land forcefully. But their complete expulsion is not an idea given by Muslims since even the Prime Minister of Palestine (belonging to Hamas) said that "Hamas would modify its rejection of Israel if there is a negotiated agreement that Palestinians can approve (as specified in the Camp David Accords)".(Palestine Peace not Apartheid pg.213 written by Jimmy Carter)

5. Jesus, What are you positions on Him?

Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah. He miraculously, without any male intervention. He could speak as a child and gave life to the dead, healed people and did many miracles with God's permission. Like all prophets, we respect him so much that in arabic, we don't call him Jesus or Issa. We say Hazrat Issa Alaih Salam, meaning revered Jesus may peace be upon him.
But we also say that he was neither killed nor was he crucified. He was raised up alive by Allah and he will come back to this Earth to rule it.

6. Movies and Video games is one entitled to play watch Violent Movies/video Games?

I personally don't play video games but I don't have enough knowledge in Islam to say that they are wrong.
Peace

Thanks alot ALI, MustaMafc and GraceSeeker. I apreciate you help in increasing my knowledge thanks so much.

One more thing as a Christian I could feel the loveof God in my heart, I felt like I knew him, is this the same for Muslims? Do you feel like you know Allah does he give you inner peace? Thanks

Shalom to Shalom all

Well yes I personally feel like I am very close to God.That is so I try my best to obey His rules.I took every chances to search for His message to humankind.Finally I found Kuran as His last message.Now I feel very peacefull inside

format_quote Originally Posted by ShalomAll

One more thing as a Christian I could feel the loveof God in my heart, I felt like I knew him, is this the same for Muslims? Do you feel like you know Allah does he give you inner peace? Thanks

For myself, I don't feel Allah in my heart and neither do I feel like I know Him beyond what He has revealed to us in the Qur'an. Allah's Majesty and Glory are simply beyond my extremely limited capacity to comprehend.

This is a distinct difference from when I was a Christian as the birth, life and death of Jesus (as) was very tangible. Since I believed then that Jesus (as) was God (may Allah forgive me), I could feel the love of that Divine Being who would sacrifice Himself for me even though I was yet a sinner. As a Christian, I had a menal image of God hanging on the cross and suffering for my own personal redemption from sin.

My experience is quite different as a Muslim. Although I pray to Allah 5 times a day, I now have absolutely no mental image or picture in my mind of what Allah looks like. Occasionally, I perform my salah as if I am standing in Allah's presence and I do indeed have a very emotional experience, but much more often than not the best that I achieve is an awareness that Allah sees me although I don't see Him.

Ok thanks guys

format_quote Originally Posted by ShalomAll

One more thing as a Christian I could feel the loveof God in my heart, I felt like I knew him, is this the same for Muslims? Do you feel like you know Allah does he give you inner peace? Thanks

Salam,

Mustafa and Ali have summed things up pretty well on previous questions but I thought I'd just pass on the words of Allah SWT to the above question....

Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Aali Imran 3:31)

And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides Allah as rivals (to Allah). They love them as they love Allah. But those who believe, love Allah more (than anything else).(Al-Baqarah 2:165)

This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)]. (Al-Baqarah 2:2)

One thing that Brother coddles76's post brought to my mind is that my Islamic experience for me is less emotional than was my Christian experience. The quotes from the Qur'an show that the extent we love Allah is reflected in how closely we follow what He has ordained or prescribed for us as demonstrated by Prophet Muhammad (saaws). Likewise, the extent that we fear the Punishment of Allah is reflected in our struggles to abstain from what He has forbidden. In other words, Islam governs my entire life as opposed to giving me some "warm, fuzzy feelings" of intimate connection with God.

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Good post, however I wish to clarify to points.

1) It is based on both work and faith. The christian belief is not compatible, even though it was once revealed by Allah, for if it was, Islam would not have been given.

2) Their are actually, a lot of religious differences imho, from the different sects, not just political ones. The differences are very great that, groups often get takfirs, or several group doing so to eachother.

Thanks ^^;

Imho, these minor differences are irrelevant. The Shi'a pray thrice a day, combining Dhuhr - Asr and Maghrib - Isha, recite the Qunut during the second Rakah, prostrate on a natural surface, do not join their hands (like the Maliki sunni) etc. "Ashadun Aliyun Waliyullah" (i bear witness that Ali is the vice regent of Allah) is added in the adhan, although there's no compulsion. Karbala and Najaf are added as holy cities. The day of Ashura is a day of mourning for Hazrath Husayn. And , of course, the most controversial difference, the cursing of the sahaba.

The Ibadi reject the reciting of the Qunut entirely, criticise Ali for his code of conduct while fighting Muawiya, but do not curse him or anyone else. They don't recite any dua after al-Fatiha during the 1st and 2nd raka'h of fardh prayer for Dhuhr and Asr. etc.

Of course, within the Sunni, there are also minor differences regarding method of Salah and Sharia.

Either way you look at it, all these differences are minor, and it doesn't matter in the long run. How you decide to follow Islam is between you and Allah (SWT).

[Al-Qur’an 6:159]
As for those who divide
Their religion and break up
Into sects, thou hast
No part in them in the least:
Their affair is with Allah:
He will in the end
Tell them the truth
Of all that they did."

Not all differences are minor brother. Not all, but some shia'ahs do believe in an incomplete Qur'an. Most, also, believe in infallible scholars. Infact, their is a whole pool of differences of beliefs, which cannot be regarded as minor. Their are sufi's, who believe in reincarnation for example.

What about the muslims who claim that Abu Bakr(ra) Umar (ra) are traitors/apostates? Sure this is political but, is it minor? Far from it. But then, it can also have religious background to it, in terms of what the Prophet (saw) related to these people. Going further, did Allah make Prophet (saw), have as his most trusted companions, traitors?

I have only given a very few examples of the extreme differences that exist, and hence, we cannot ignore that their is indeed a lot of major differences. More commonly, even among sunni's, just one of many examples, are of Allah's nature - which means it goes to the heart of aqeedah itself.

So, although their are minor differences between muslims, their are also major ones.

format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

^ you cant be muslim if you believe that about the greatest sahabi's.

because much of islaam is learnt from them, right? so if u dont take from them, you take other then islaam

right?

They did not disregard everyone, they do associate with those who were with Ali (ra), for example, they do take from Ibn Abbas (ra), just as one example of many. It is that they seperated from Abu Bakr(ra) and Umar (ra) and their associates. As you know, at the time of the appointment of caliphate, their was disagreements at first, and their was a seperation as to who where with Ali (ra) and those for others. So, it is that group who was with Ali(ra) they take from, including basis of where they take hadiths etc.

For this reason (as with many), many respectable scholars did not deem the shia's kaafir.