Why pork is forbidden in Islam?

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format_quote Originally Posted by peaceandlove

Why pork is forbidden by Islam? A comprehesive answer by Dr Zakir Naik.

http://islam-faq.blogspot.com/2010/0...f-pork-is.html

I appreciate Dr. Zakir Naik's efforts at being comprehensive. But, I think he went well beyond why it is forbidden in Islam. Isn't it forbidden simply on the first point alone:

1. Pork is prohibited in Qur’an

The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.

“Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine,and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:3]

As he says, that the above is included in the Holy Qur’an should be sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.


That would mean the remaining poiints of his blog, which don't have anything really to do with Islam, might be material by which one might try to convince a non-Muslim to not eat pork, but for the Muslim the reason to not do so is that Allah said not to.

2. Pork prohibited in the Bible

Indeed, in the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, where it is part of God's covenant with the Jewish people. Thus it is relevant to Jews and to Jews alone.

3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases

A good point. Pork is one of several meats that one has to be sure is thoroughly cooked before eating.

4. Pork has fat building material

Another good point. Pork is one of sseveral meats of which this is true.

5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth

I would dispute this. My experience working on farms is that a pastured pig is no dirtier than a cow. Because of the sensitivity of their skin, pigs like many other animals will wallow in the mud to protect themselves from the sun. In terms of what a pig eats, well, there are many, many animals that do the same, but I agree it is gross.

6. Pig is the most shameless animal

I suppose that shame, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. The behavior of pigs is not something that I believe humans should emulate. But neither should we copy that of any other species, for that is not how God made us to be. Dogs, cats, mice, rabbits, cattle, horses, goats, sheep, deer, bears, most fish and most birds will all mate with any opposite gendered adult of their species with whom they can. It matters not that it is one's parent or offspring even. They seem to forget such things. But for shameless behavior, I nominate the bonobo. This species does things that I hate to print here, so I just refer you to this link.

Included in this point is the argument that the lascivious behavior of some Americans is related to the consumption of pork. This ignores the reality that pork is one of the most cultivated meats for worldwide consumption. It is just an attempt by the author to call Americans pigs.

For Muslims the notion of Faith is primarily associated with the concept of Knowledge. It is interesting to note, that in Arabic, the word “faith” (“iman”) is a derivative of the root with the meaning of “to safeguard”) Consequently, in order to achieve “peace and safety in God”, a believer should rigorously follow the Divine laws and commandments.
Both human experience and scientific data have confirmed the commandments concerning healthcare issues, found in the Holy Scriptures. The prohibition of pork consumption is an example of such a commandment.

“Oh ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good. If there is any restriction on you from Allah, subhaana wa ta´aala, that is – do not eat the dead animals (Maytatah), avoid the blood and the flesh of swine (pork), and do not eat any such thing on which someone´s else name has been pronounced except the name of Allah, subhaana wa ta´aala. Yet, if someone is in the situation of helplessness and he/she eats any of these things without that he/she has the intention to break the Law or exceeds the limits of necessity, then there is no sin on him/her, Allah, subhaana wa ta´aala, is Oft-Forgiving and Loving” (The Holy Quran, II: 172, 173).

A similar commandment may be found in the Bible:

“You shall not eat any abominable things < …> And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof but does not chew the cud, you shall regard as unclean. You shall not eat their flesh or even touch their dead carcasses” (Deuteronomy, XIV: 8.).

The medical aspects of the prohibition

To abstain from consuming pork means to care about one’s health. The omnivorous pig, being by far the most slovenly and greedy domestic animal, devours virtually anything, including human excrement and is a breeding ground for various malignant microbes and parasites. Consumption of pork may result in many serious diseases. We are safe to assume that one of the main reasons behind the prohibition of pork consumption was the spread of trichinosis, - a disease caused by trichinella spiralis, a parasitic roundworm.

•Trichinosis is caused by eating infected raw or insufficiently cooked pork, in which the immature parasite is encysted. When such a piece of meat is eaten, the encysted embryos are set free in the intestines, and develop into full-grown trichinae. From each pair of these, thousands of new embryos may arise in the course of several weeks. As soon as this new generation of embryos is produced, they make their way into the wall of the bowel, and thence wander through the circulation system, finally depositing themselves between the fibers of the voluntary muscles, where they become encysted. The first symptoms develop in the course of two weeks after the infection. The disease is characterized by fever and severe pain in the limbs and muscles, oedema of the soft tissues, and eosinophilia in the blood. The infection may result in severe damage to the nervous system (in the form of encephalitis), cardiac muscle (miocarditis), as well as other complications.
Despite the therapeutic advances, contemporary medicine does not provide an effective cure for trichinosis. The only efficient protection, therefore, is based on prevention, or giving up eating pork. Although the meat is subject to thorough inspection in slaughter-houses, as well as by the Sanitary Inspection, this procedure does not give a one hundred percent guarantee, as was clearly shown by the recent outbreak in Moscow.

The list of the microbes and parasites found in pork is vast. It should be emphasized that many of these diseases as yet remain incurable.

•Taenia Solium (tapeworm). The taeniasis is caused by the brain’s infestation by the larvae form of the pork tapeworm, the gastrointestinal parasite, and may constitute up to 1.3 percent of the intracranial volume. The parasite’s onchosphere travels through the mucous membranes of the blood vessels into the portal circulatory system, and is thence transported throughout the body, infecting various internal organs, as well as the brain. The course of the disease is remittent and, symptomatically, is characterized by the presence of several niduses. The infestation may often be manifested in the development of the epileptic syndrome, meningism and the increase of the intracranial pressure.
•Roundworms. Ascariasis may result in appendicitis, and some types of jaundice. The infestation is known to cause dyspepsia.
•Schitosoma Japonica. This disease is manifested in hemorrhages and anemia. In the case of the ova infesting the brain or bone marrow, the disease may bring about paralysis or death.
•Paragonimus Westermani. Infestation may result in haemoptysis, or the coughing up of blood, due to the worm setting in the lungs.
•Paciolepsis Buski. This parasite causes dyspepsia, severe diarrhea and general edema.
•Clonorchis Sinensis. Infestation by this parasite may be manifested in some types of jaundice.
•Metastrongylus Apri may cause bronchitis or the inflammation of the lungs’ tissue.
•Gigantorinchus Gigas causes anemia and dyspepsia.
•Balantidium Coli is known to cause acute dysentery, resulting in the severe emaciation.
•Bacterial diseases
•Tuberculosis.
•Fusiformis Necrophulus, which causes a serious disease of the lower limbs.
•Salmonella Cholera Suis (cholera)
•Brucellosis, - the disease results in the irreversible loss of the victim’s capabilities.
•Erysipelas, or St. Anthony’s fire.
•Viral infections
•Small pox.
•Japanese encephalitis (B-type).
•Influenza.
•Protozoan infections
•Toxoplasma Goundii. This microorganism causes a very serious disease of toxoplasmosis. In the congenital form the unborn child is infected by the mother. Toxoplasmosis often results in the sudden death within several days or weeks after birth. In the case of survival, the infection may result in mental retardation, loss of sight or deafness. The acquired form in adults may manifest itself in chronic fever, marked by liver and spleen malfunction, pneumonia, and hydrocephalus. This disease may also affect sight and hearing.
Those who consume pork are more prone to obesity due to the high percentage of fat in pork. In this group, blood cholesterol level is frequently higher than normal; pork-eaters are more susceptible to arteriosclerosis, which may result in cardiovascular diseases, malfunction of the brain blood-circulation, vascular pathology of the lower limbs, etc.

Pork is difficult to digest, which may be the cause of many chronic diseases of the digestive system. Ulcerous skin infections are more frequently found within the pork-consuming group. Of great interest is the research into the hydrolysis of pork fat, its deposition in the human body, and the extent of its utilization. There is a theory that animal fat, acquired by the consumption of the herbivorous animals’ meat, undergoes a process of hydrolysis and is thence synthesized anew and deposited in the body as human fat. Pork fat, however, is not subject to hydrolysis and is consequently deposited in the human fat tissue as pork fat. Since the proper utilization of this fat deposit is problematic, in order to produce energy, the body burns up the stock of glucose, which is essential for brain activity. This process brings about a chronic feeling of hunger, which, in turn, results in a vicious circle: although having a substantial fat build-up, the person is constantly consuming additional food without feeling satisfied.

The biblical aspect of the commandment

In spite of the fact that pork consumption was clearly outlawed by the Bible, there are those who insist that the New Testament annuls the prohibition. This assumption still has to find any substantial evidence. No scholar is able to prove that Jesus (let peace be upon him!) repealed this prohibition. On the contrary, he has expressly reinforced it by saying “Do not suppose that I have come to abolish the Law and the prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to complete” (St. Matthew; V: 17). The Book of Acts (X: 10-16) is frequently quoted to support the view that the New Testament allegedly abolishes the taboo on pork. Without evaluating the general context of the excerpt, one could really misunderstand the meaning of the passage. However, the text never states for a fact that St. Peter actually consumed the meat of “unclean” animals or recommended his disciples to do so. In the New Testament, Jesus (let peace be upon him!) likens those who fail to appreciate the Divine Revelation to dogs and pigs: “Do not give dogs what is holy; do not cast your pearls to the swines, they will only trample on them, and turn and tear you to pieces” (St. Matthew; VII: 6).

It is obvious, therefore, that abstinence from consuming pork is one of the conditions, essential for both physical and spiritual personal perfection. Although pork does not contain harmful substances strong enough to kill a person immediately, its potentially lethal poisons build up in the body over time. The Prophet (let peace be upon him!) said: “There are two blessings, which are neglected by many: one’s own health and the spare time, predestined for the deeds that would please the Lord Almighty. Allah is more pleased to see the believer in good health than in weakness and illness”.

Every person should care about his or her health, bearing in mind that it was granted to us by the Almighty

Why Islam Forbids Pork?
By: Rashid Shamsi
(The Muslim World League Journal, Rajab 1420 - October 1999)


Food and drink have direct effect on our health. That is why Islam has prescribed regulations about our food and drink. It lays great emphasis on our physical as well as moral health, because both of these are equally important for a healthy society. The abstention from eating pork is one of the steps taken by Islam to practise hygiene and to attain purity of soul.

Islam, for the cultivation of inner faculties, insists upon the cleanliness of body and the purification of soul through Salaat (prayers) Zikr (remembrance of Allah) and other devotional duties. Islam teaches us how to attain the virtues and how to give up bad habits because both good and bad grow in the man according to his upbringing, education and environment.

A human being has natural desires: food, sleep and sex being the three primary ones. He has also other natural emotions: sorrow, happiness, love, fear, disgust and avarice etc. Islam doesn't recommend the complete abrogation of these impulses but offers a method of controlling them through religious education and discipline.

The prohibition of eating pork in Islam is relevant in this context. There is a saying in English that "a man becomes what he eats." According to physicians and medical experts, pork is a harmful diet. Consumption of swine-flesh creates lowliness in character and destroys moral and spiritual faculties in a man.


Body and Soul

The life of a man is a compound of body and soul. Anything, which is harmful for the body, hurts the soul as well. Consumption of swine-flesh reduces the feeling of shame and as such the standard of modesty. Those nations, which consume pork habitually, have a low standard of morality with the result that virginity, chastity and bashfulness are becoming a thing of the past in Europe today. The number of unwed mothers is on the increase despite of the use of pills and other contraceptives.

According to a report, 60 to 70% of girls in Sweden become mothers before marriage. The formula of "skin to skin is no sin" is taking its toll but there is hardly any feeling of shame or remorse over the end-result. Since the European nations have become addicted to wine and pork, sexual freedom with all its attendant evils has got ingrained in their culture. Consequently, homosexuality has been legalized by the British Parliament.

The Holy Qur'an has prohibited the swine-flesh, hence the Muslims would not dare touch it. The Bible has also forbidden swine-flesh, but Christians disregarded this order and started consuming it. The Europeans now proclaim that pork is a very powerful diet, rich in protein. Some of them further argue that since there is a great scarcity of food-stuff in the world and swines are available in abundant quantity, they should be consumed in the diet to overcome the food shortage. If this argument is true, why don't they use dog's meat as dogs too are available in abundance? The Europeans perhaps hate the mere mention of dog's meat in the same way as the Muslims shun pork.

Another wrong notion about swine-flesh is that its consumption lengthens life-span, although this is a pure myth and absurdity. On the contrary, people, who abstain from pork and liquor, have a longer span of life. The Muslims in Central Asia bear a testimony to this truth.

However, in the consumption of flesh Muslims are required to be selective and to distinguish between Halaal (Lawful) and Haraam (Unlawful). This step leads automatically to the deeper understanding of the need for the cultivation of a pure human nature. As blood is virtually our life-stream and whatever we consume ultimately affects the blood system, it is, therefore, necessary to exercise choice in the selection of our food and drinks as part of the requirements of the Shariah.

There are certain food and drinks specified by Allah, and His Messenger Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as forbidden. The prohibition of these food and drinks is not by any means an arbitrary action or an unwarranted decree of Allah. It is the first and foremost a divine intervention in the best interest of man and for his own benefit.

The reasons behind the Divine intervention are numerous. They are of a nature intellectual and spiritual, moral and mental, physical and economic. And the sole purpose is to show man how to develop himself according to an upright course of life in order to be a healthy unit in the structure of the family, then of society and eventually of humanity at large.

Reliable medical doctors and social scientists are able to realize how those food and drinks forbidden by Islam are harmful and destructive to the human spirit and morality as well as to the physique and moral fibre of man and to verify the benefits of Islamic legislations on the subjects.

The prohibition is based on the aim of the purification of one's nature, because food, when consumed, doesn't merely enter the stomach and intestines and become excreta. It is absorbed and metabolized into the system and circulated to all parts of the human body, including the brain, and this in no small way affects man's nature.

Take a look at the nature of the pig for example. The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex, it is dirty, greedy and gluttonous. It dislikes sunlight and lacks the spirit and will to "fight." It eats almost anything, be it human excreta or anything foul and unwholesome. Amongst all animal flesh, pork is the favoured cradle of harmful germs. Pork also serves as a carrier of diseases to mankind. It is for this reason that its flesh is not suitable for consumption.

Some people have argued that the "modern pig" reared in farms is given only clean foods, therefore, its flesh should be consumable. The answer is that you may feed the pig on clean, wholesome food, but you can't change its nature. It is still a pig and will always stay so. A pig is not a plant and you cannot change it by bud-grafting.


Medical Reports

Dr. E. Kazim. M.D. in his article "Medical aspects of forbidden foods in Islam" (July 1981 issue of Muslim Journal has described diseases carried or caused by the flesh of the swine.

He writes:

The pig is a scavenger. It is an omnivorous animal. It eats everything. There are many diseases carried from swine to man, particularly parasite infestations. Lately extensive research has been focused on senility-old age is characterized by hardening of inner lining of the blood vessels of the heart, brain etc. a process called atheroselerosis. When a clot forms, it results in coronary thrombosis or a heart attack, cerebral thrombosis or stroke.

Different dietary factors are responsible for atheroselerosis. Gross atheroma may be produced in rabbit by feeding it with cholesterol, but when you add lard (derived from hog fat) to the cholesterol, the incidence of atheroma is increased and thus you would produce coronary thrombosis, and myocardial infraction.

Besides, lard contains 2800 units of vitamin D per 100 grams and no vitamin A at all. Lately vitamin D has been held responsible for atheroma, by causing increased absorption of calcium in the blood vessels. In human beings, serum cholesterol is not dependent on the intake of cholesterol in the diet, but depends upon the proportion of animal fats in the diet, which elevates the beta-lipo protein level in the blood. Animal fats contain saturated fatty acids and these saturated fatty acids have been found to be as one of the causes of atheroma in man. Medium fat bacon contains 25% proteins and 55% fat.

According to medical research, the fat content in pork is more than any other meat (beef, mutton etc.) and it takes longer to digest. Dr. M Jaffer in an article in the Islamic Review (London) of January 1997 issue has listed 16 kinds of harmful germs, which have been discovered in pork in modern researches and the diseases, which could be caused by them. The number of patients suffering from tapeworm disease is the highest in the world among pork eating nations. Other diseases attributed to pigs are caused by tri-chinelia spirates and intestinal worms occupy first place among such nations too.

Dr. Glen Shepherd wrote the following on the dangers of eating pork in Washington Post (31 May 1952).

"One in six people in USA and Canada have germs in their muscles - trichinosis 8 from eating pork infected with trichina worms. Many people who are infected shows no symptoms. Most of those, who do have, recover slowly. Some die; some are reduced to permanent invalids. All were careless pork caters".

He continued "No one is immune from the disease and there is no cure. Neither antibiotics nor drugs or vaccines affect these tiny deadly worms. Preventing infection is the real answer."

After reading the statement of Dr. Shepherd, one can realize that there is no real guarantee of safety when eating pork that one would not be affected by trichina worm. That is why modern doctors advise three prohibitions during illness: no liquor, no pork and no smoking.

Muslims follow the divine law which is much higher than the medical advice. The Glorious Qur'an says, "So eat of the lawful and good food which Allah has provided for you, and thank the bounty of your Lord if it is Him you serve. He has forbidden for you only carrion and blood and swine-flesh and that which has been immolated in the name of any other than Allah; but he who is driven thereto, neither craving nor transgressing, Lo! then Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (16:114-115)

The above is the order from the Creator of the universe and the Supreme Law-Giver. All Muslims are under the obligation to obey it. This is a plain and straightforward answer to those, who usually ask why Muslims abstain from eating pork. Nevertheless, there is no sin, if a Muslims is forced by famine or starvation to eat pork in order to save his life

BIBLICAL ASPECT OF THE PROHIBITION

Old Testament

The Jews and the different christian sects and denominations
believe in the Old Testament. Adherents of other religions
alleged that the prohibition was already superseded by the New
Testament.This cogent argumentation is inconclusive. No one can
specifically point out that Jesus Christ (PBUH) lifted the
prohibition. On the contrary, he upheld it he declared:


" Think not that I have come to abolish the law
and the prophets: I have come not to abolish
them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17 RSV)

Jesus Christ (PBUH) was obviously referring to the existing
Law of his time , the Mosaic Law !- in which the Law prohibiting
pig as article of food is mentioned. ( Leviticus 11:7-11)

" As for any beast that is a splitter of the hoof
but is not a former of the cleft and not a chewer
of the cud, they are unclean for you. Everyone
touching them will be unclean. "
Leviticus 11:26


In addition, the book of Prophet Isaiah said:

" Who sit in tombs, and spend the night in secret
places who eats swine's flesh and broth of
abominable things is in their vessels;... These
are a smoke in my nostrils,a fire that burns
all the day. " ( Isaiah 65:4,5b RSV)


The New Testament
Despite the Biblical injunction prohibiting pork as food,
still people of other religious persuations insist on finding
ways and reasons to justify their consumption of prohibited
animals arguing that said Biblical prohibition was already
superseded in the New Testament when in certainly, no one can
specifically point out that Jesus Christ (PBUH) indeed lifted the
prohibition. On the contrary, Jesus (PBUH) declared:

" Think not that I have come to abolish the law
and the prophets. I have come not to abolish but
to fulfill them. " ( Matthew 5:17 )

The fact is, we will find in Mark 5:1-20 that Jesus (PBUH)
even permitted the foul spirits (evil spirits) possessing a man
to enter into the herb of swine. Since the flesh of pig is
unlawful for the Jews, to eat and since it is considered
unclean, (Leviticus 11:7-8) consequently, the Jews are not to keep
or raise them. This Biblical account states that Jesus (PBUH)
punished the owners of the swine;destroyed their unlawful
livelihood and at the same time showed that pig is the habitat of
unclean spirits.
The only provision in the New Testament alluded to their
argument is in Act 10:10-16. Without reading the whole
context, one would be inclined to interpret it to mean that God
abrogated His previous command found on Deuteronomy 14:3-8. An
alleged apparition of Peter on Acts 10:11-16 is alleged to
supersede Deuteronomy 14:3-8, however, nowhere in the Bible is it
mentioned that Peter actually slaughtered and ate the unclean
animals he saw in his apparition. The correct interpretation of
this apparition was shown to him in Acts 10:25-28. Acts 10:11-16
therefore, carries an allegorical connotation,r eferring
explicitly to the Gentile nations or non-Jewish nations. Peter
was told not to call the Gentiles common and unclean because
God's mercy, blessing and forgiveness also encompasses the Non
Jews and life eternal also awaits the penitent.



According to the Gospel of Mark, Jesus supposedly said the following:



Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "[a] After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' (Mark 7:14-20)



So according to Jesus, foods that come into you don't make you unclean, as they only go into your stomach, but not to your heart. It's what comes out of you that makes you unclean, such as things you say, or things you do. The fact that Jesus mentions the heart shows he is talking about something spiritual here, something to do with the faith.



Now indeed, some might read this teaching and think that yes this is a teaching that makes perfect sense, yet the reality is that this teaching is actually wrong. The reason it's wrong is because there are foods that can come into you and make you unclean, not physically unclean, as that wasn't what Jesus was talking about, but SPIRITUALLY UNCLEAN.



Did Jesus forget about the foods that were sacrificed to idols? What if a man ate food that was sacrificed to idols because it was part of his faith, part of his pagan belief, the act of eating that food would make him completely spiritually unclean because he has taken part in a pagan ritual that he believes in, and this act of taking the food in is connected to his heart, because it's part of his spiritual faith!





In the Bible, Jesus(PBUH) likened to a dog and pig those
people whom after receiving divine teaching failed to profit from
them and abuses them for self-serving purposes:

" Do not give holy to dogs- they will only turn and
attack you. Do not throw your pearls in front of
pigs-they will only trample them underfoot. "
( Matthew 7:6 NEB)

I think the answer is way more subtle than that, if we view it from a sociological viewpoint. For instance, in Hinduism, cows are sacred animals because back then they perhaps had a very important function in the lives of people, for agriculture, food and whatnot. I think a similar explanation can be found in the case of Islam, or maybe it is simply one of the elements that were burrowed from Judaism.

format_quote Originally Posted by Justufy

I think the answer is way more subtle than that, if we view it from a sociological viewpoint. For instance, in Hinduism, cows are sacred animals because back then they perhaps had a very important function in the lives of people, for agriculture, food and whatnot. I think a similar explanation can be found in the case of Islam, or maybe it is simply one of the elements that were burrowed from Judaism.

They were 'burrowed' from Judaism?




the answer as to why it is forbidden is because God forbade it! and it doesn't matter if you clone a super clean super delicious pig.. it will still be forbidden because God forbade it along with a few other things. Islam doesn't borrow from Judaism.. perhaps the more prudent thought here is that the monotheistic God doesn't change his mind, simply because the folks in Greece were pig raising, pig loving bunch and Saul really wanted to cater to their pagan pig loving mentality!

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the answer as to why it is forbidden is because God forbade it

A rather simplistic explanation, I would ask for critically robust evidence that this entity actually forbade anything.

Islam doesn't borrow from Judaism..

I think this is best kept for another subject, but yes, islam burrowed or dowright appropriated many elements from judaism.

perhaps the more prudent thought here is that the monotheistic God doesn't change his mind, simply because the folks in Greece were pig raising, pig loving bunch and Saul really wanted to cater to their pagan pig loving mentality!

Thank you for pointing out the obvious: that religious practises are linked with a sociological context, this is no different in Islam.

format_quote Originally Posted by Justufy

A rather simplistic explanation, I would ask for critically robust evidence that this entity actually forbade anything.

Simple explanations are the most accurate and the best when addressing simpletons!

I think this is best kept for another subject, but yes, islam burrowed or dowright appropriated many elements from judaism.

Prove it historically!

Thank you for pointing out the obvious: that religious practises are linked with a sociological context, this is no different in Islam.

I have no idea what this means.. I'd suggest you work on vocabulary and significance seeing as I don't like to waste my time on quasi intellects!

all the best

format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye

Simple explanations are the most accurate and the best when addressing simpletons!

Prove it historically!

I have no idea what this means.. I'd suggest you work on vocabulary and significance seeing as I don't like to waste my time on quasi intellects!

all the best

I have no idea what this means.. I'd suggest you work on vocabulary and significance seeing as I don't like to waste my time on quasi intellects!

all the best

It simply means that the context at the time influences religious practises, had the context been otherwise practises would of been different and perhaps '' God would of forbade'' eating humbug's or snails. Also if your highness may forgive me for my vocabulary but English isn’t my mother tongue.

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Oh! the irony!

format_quote Originally Posted by Justufy

It simply means that the context at the time influences religious practises, had the context been otherwise practises would of been different and perhaps '' God would of forbade'' eating humbug's or snails. Also if your highness may forgive me for my vocabulary but English isn’t my mother tongue.

I didn't ask you what it meant, I asked you to validate your claims historically!
English isn't my mother tongue either, I do make an effort to elucidate my point if I am in it for a point to be made!

Oh! the irony!

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all the best!

format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy

Shoot...I am sorry. I thought you were Muslim. Your avatar is the same as another brothers on this forum.

I like the avatar, and besides I use to be.

format_quote Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

Unless one can show that Christians are indeed bound by the same dietary laws as are Muslims,.

The dietary restrictions of Christians are the least of their problems from an Islamic point-- something about God copulating with an earth woman and impregnating her with himself and then dying later after forsaking himself, I fear would be the bigger dilemma.

The Christians of the Quran like Ahel al-kahf for instance, aren't the paganist Christians of today, as such you can't really make yourself the subject of certain Quranic verses. And, again, a christian swine diet is the least of Christianity's troubles at this stage..


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