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    Islam and Lilith (OP)


    It is said that in the Beginning, before Adam and eve there was Adam and Lilith. she was made from dirt and sediment. (dirt but not as pure as Adam) and that because she was made of dirt she did not want to be subservient to man so she was cast out of eden. some believe that she when she was cast out she was cursed to give birth to demons.

    Later when Cain killed able he escaped to the city over the mountains. some believe since it was only supposed to be Adam and eve and Cain and able at the time that the city he escaped to was the city of demons, the city of Eve.

    not to get too off track but what is the view point on Lilith. I know she was taken out of Genius in the bible because that story was not well liked. but she does appear in a few other sections sporadicly through out the bible

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    Re: Islam and Lilith

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    What's the meaning of lilith in Arabic..and is that a good name for Muslim baby girl..?
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman View Post
    Salaam


    O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Hawwa (Eve)), and from them both He created many men and women and fear Allah through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an AllWatcher over you.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #1)
    A salaam .. what's lilith meaning in Arabic.. is that good to call lilith to Muslim baby girl?
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan View Post
    in Qur'an and sunnah, there is also never mention of lucifer.
    What about Surah 86?

    It wasn't really until Protestants started creating their own DIY doctrines that Lucifer was associated as some kind of deity/entity, prior to that both the Jewish book of Psalms and various passages in the Christian New Testament refer to Lucifer as the morning star, literally a start in the sky.
    Perhaps it's a case of astrotheology though being placed into the concept of the Shaitan (in Christianity though, their almost duotheistic deification of the Shaitan) and conflating Lucifer with it?
    However there is definitely no deity/entity/demon called "Lucifer" in the Bible. But the Bible isn't scripture to begin with so we shouldn't be giving to much credence to such things.

    But again to recap my first point, Surah 86 does speak of that particular Star and not in a negative way.

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    *I meant to write astrolatry
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by ibrahimmifxal View Post
    What's the meaning of lilith in Arabic..and is that a good name for Muslim baby girl..?
    No Lilith is from Jewish Zohar, a book of commentary and exegesis on the torah by Rabbis.

    I had read about this is depth a long time ago so I don't remember but she had something to do with seducing Adam, according to the exegesis by rabbis.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Lilith may be the wife of iblees. As per quran every thing is made in pair so.........
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by MaryaKazmi View Post
    Lilith may be the wife of iblees. As per quran every thing is made in pair so.........
    This is a risky statement.
    Do angels then also have wifes?
    Cebrail as?
    Mikail as?

    Do they need wifes?

    In my opinion, there is no mention of Lilith in Quraan or Hadeeth...and therefore no place in Islaam.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Quran says:
    “Will you then take him (Iblees) and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me…?”[al-Kahf 18:50]
    The word dhurriyah (offspring) in this aayah indicates that the Shaytaan has offspring. But there is no clear text concerning the way in which his offspring come into being, whether that is through marriage or otherwise. Since there is no reliable text concerning that, it is best in this case not to put forward our own opinions.
    And Allah knows the best!
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by MaryaKazmi View Post
    Lilith may be the wife of iblees. As per quran every thing is made in pair so.........
    And of everything We have created pairs, that you may remember [Quran 51:47].
    What the verse means is that Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala has created two opposite types or counterparts, such as male and female, night and day, heat and cold, and so on. This is indicative of the perfect might of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala Who creates whatever He wills. So He creates a thing and He creates its opposite, which differs from it in its characteristics.
    In these words, Allah is drawing attention to His might and power to create whatever He wills, and that He is not like created beings which do one type of action and do not do the counterpart thereof, because anything that can do one thing but not the other – such as fire, which can only heat and cannot cool, or ice, which can only cool and cannot heat – cannot be described as perfect; rather perfect and utmost praise is due only to the One Who is able to do all that He wills of things that are different or similar.
    And Allah knows the best!
    Ma'aSalaam
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    As Salaamu Wa Alalaikum, It is important to remember that we are not able to understand everything single thing in this world. Unfortunately, there are been many removed, distorted and or destroyed text however, for the believers of Islam all that matters is that Adam (AS) was created and then Hawwa (A) from him.

    We must also not that there is no clear evidence to prove that Lilith is a Woman as we would understand a Woman to be so we will not be able to say Lilith is the first women.

    Allah (SWT) tells us that he created many things and that is that. It is believed by a few that the same people who distorted the text on Lilith and the Nephlim may be the same people naming the being as the first woman.

    Just like it was believed with Rasputin, there are many sects who believe and enforce the ideology of sinning to get closer to what they call ‘God’.

    Lilith was worshipped by many wrongdoers and the wiser of us will understand that this is a distraction.

    There are evil beings and we must not help to promote them. Allahu Akbar.

    I will try to add supporting text if needed In Sha Allah.
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