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    Islam and Lilith

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    It is said that in the Beginning, before Adam and eve there was Adam and Lilith. she was made from dirt and sediment. (dirt but not as pure as Adam) and that because she was made of dirt she did not want to be subservient to man so she was cast out of eden. some believe that she when she was cast out she was cursed to give birth to demons.

    Later when Cain killed able he escaped to the city over the mountains. some believe since it was only supposed to be Adam and eve and Cain and able at the time that the city he escaped to was the city of demons, the city of Eve.

    not to get too off track but what is the view point on Lilith. I know she was taken out of Genius in the bible because that story was not well liked. but she does appear in a few other sections sporadicly through out the bible
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    It is said that in the Beginning, before Adam and eve there was Adam and Lilith. she was made from dirt and sediment. (dirt but not as pure as Adam) and that because she was made of dirt she did not want to be subservient to man so she was cast out of eden. some believe that she when she was cast out she was cursed to give birth to demons.

    Later when Cain killed able he escaped to the city over the mountains. some believe since it was only supposed to be Adam and eve and Cain and able at the time that the city he escaped to was the city of demons, the city of Eve.

    not to get too off track but what is the view point on Lilith. I know she was taken out of Genius in the bible because that story was not well liked. but she does appear in a few other sections sporadicly through out the bible
    This is the first time I've heard of such story.

    Well, Adam (as) was the first human created by Allah SWT, and Hawa (as) was made of him. So they were the first humans.
    as for Lilith (whoever she was), you need to ask jewish scribes who invented her.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Salaam

    yap , same here , read it for the first time that Adam as was not the first human being.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Im not sure what you mean. It says adam was first. but Eve was not the first woman that was made for him. and it was not Jewish scribs that invented her it used to be in the bible too but it was removed.

    who is Hawa?
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

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    O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Hawwa (Eve)), and from them both He created many men and women and fear Allah through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an AllWatcher over you.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #1)
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    ok sorry i have never heard her referred to as Hawa before :-)
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Mods please delete this post.

    Jazakallah khair.
    Last edited by Mr Fussy; 01-28-2011 at 07:24 PM.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Lilith is a character in Jewish mythology, found earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought to be related to a class of female demons Līlīu in Mesopotamian texts. However, Lowell K. Handy (1997) notes that "Very little information has been found relating to the Akkadian and Babylonian view of these demons. Two sources of information previously used to define Lilith are both suspect." [1] The two problematic sources are the Gilgamesh appendix and the Arshlan-Tash amulets.

    In Jewish folklore, from the 8th–10th Century Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism.[3] In the 13th Century writings of Rabbi Isaac ben Jacob ha-Kohen, for example, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she mated with archangel Samael.[4] The resulting Lilith legend is still commonly used as source material in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy, and horror.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    Im not sure what you mean. It says adam was first. but Eve was not the first woman that was made for him
    then who was the first woman created?
    The qur'an does not name the first woman created, but from ahadith, the name mentioned is Hawwa.

    O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye claim (your rights) of one another, and toward the wombs (that bare you). Lo! Allah hath been a watcher over you (QS. 4:1)

    He it is Who did create you from a single soul, and therefrom did make his mate that he might take rest in her. And when he covered her she bore a light burden, and she passed (unnoticed) with it, but when it became heavy they cried unto Allah, their Lord, saying: If thou givest unto us aright we shall be of the thankful. (QS. 7:189)


    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    and it was not Jewish scribs that invented her it used to be in the bible too but it was removed.
    In Islam, we must not believe any narration that is not authentic. The Old Testament, a book which we know for certain was edited by humans, is a far cry from an authentic source. That is why the Prophet (PBUH) said, "When the People of the Book quote you [from there scriptures], do not believe them and do not disbelieve them!" (Reported by Al-Bukhaari; narrated by Abu-Hurayra and Ibn Abi-Namla; rated Authentic by Al-Albaani).
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    There is considerable Jewish Mythology relating to pre-Adamites. At various times throughout history it had some times worked it's way into Jewish scripture and even into some of the earliest Christian Bibles in the OT of them. Also some of the Jews did confuse mythology with scripture.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    Isn't Lilith considered to be wife of Lucifer according to some people?
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    no she was never considered the wife of lucifer.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    I've also heard of this Lilith. I don't believe Islam makes any mention of her.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    in Qur'an and sunnah, there is also never mention of lucifer.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    in Qur'an and sunnah, there is also never mention of lucifer.
    Although in my previous post I mentioned Lucifer and Lilith as a couple, I agree with you that neither of the entities are mentioned in Quran and Ahadeeth.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    I was wondering the same thing and was going to make a post about this. I've heard it frequently and I've also seen the mention of Lilith in the Bible as well and did some research a few years back and found out where it came from.

    Good to know it's not found anywhere in the Qur'an. I'm reading an English translation now.
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aprender View Post
    I was wondering the same thing and was going to make a post about this. I've heard it frequently and I've also seen the mention of Lilith in the Bible as well and did some research a few years back and found out where it came from.

    Good to know it's not found anywhere in the Qur'an. I'm reading an English translation now.
    Where in the Bible is a Lilit mentioned?
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    isnt lucifer satan?..
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by View Post
    isnt lucifer satan?..

    lucifer is not found anywhere in qur'an or ahadeeth. Maybe it is in bible, I don't know.
    the satan that was arrogant and refused Allah's command was iblees
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    Re: Islam and Lilith

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    Im not sure what you mean. It says adam was first. but Eve was not the first woman that was made for him. and it was not Jewish scribs that invented her it used to be in the bible too but it was removed.

    who is Hawa?
    Assalamu Alaikum, Hawwa (A) is the first woman of this world and Adam's (A) first wife. There is no one called Lilith in Islam. The only demon mentioned is Iblis. Lilith is a myth ma'am/sir.
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