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    I been meaning to put this link up for a while but haven't.

    Its a quiz about the Bible, and how it contains contradictions. I warn you before hand it is very "in your face".

    http://exchristian.net/3/
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    Greetings,

    I did it and got zero out of twenty!

    I'm ranked as "clueless"!

    That's the worst I've ever done on any test in my life!



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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    I did it and got zero out of twenty!

    I'm ranked as "clueless"!

    That's the worst I've ever done on any test in my life!



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    Lol try it again its the same quiz each time, see if you get one right this time
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    It always show 0 answers correct.
    I took two times the test, choosing each time the other item:
    1. How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?
    If you choose 1, the answer is:
    INCORRECT!

    Luke 24:4 states that there were two men dressed in shining garments in the tomb.

    If you choose 2, the answer is:
    INCORRECT!

    Mark 16:5 states that there was one man dressed in white in the tomb.
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    I did it and got zero out of twenty!

    I'm ranked as "clueless"!

    That's the worst I've ever done on any test in my life!



    Peace
    Clueless? You??? Never!

    Ofcourse, the point is that the questionnaire points out differences in the gospel accounts. So whichever question you choose, you will always come away with 'nil point'

    Non-Christians like to point these out, and thereby conclude that the Bible is not trustworthy.
    For me as a Christian it is entirely irrelevant.
    Unlike the Qu'ran, which has it's origin in one man only, the Bible consists of many books, and has it's origin in many people, living over a long period of time.
    Those inconsistencies are caused by different individuals telling the same story at different times, to different audiences, with different emphasis. (Hey, you are the Englsih teacher, aren't you? What's the plural of 'emphasis'?)
    For me that neither means it is not God's word through the mouths of man, nor that the Gospel is not trustworthy.

    Tiresome as it may be, people like to quote these things, and I have to put up with it ...

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by mara View Post
    It always show 0 answers correct.
    I took two times the test, choosing each time the other item:
    1. How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?
    If you choose 1, the answer is:
    INCORRECT!

    Luke 24:4 states that there were two men dressed in shining garments in the tomb.

    If you choose 2, the answer is:
    INCORRECT!

    Mark 16:5 states that there was one man dressed in white in the tomb.

    Yes thats the point, it shows how the bible can't be the word of god, or inspired by god, as it contains numerous contradictions as shown in the quiz. feel free to refute them. I just came accross it as interesting, Br. azim showed it to me, it's interesting to see if any of our CXhristian friends here can answer these mistakes
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Clueless? You??? Never!

    Ofcourse, the point is that the questionnaire points out differences in the gospel accounts. So whichever question you choose, you will always come away with 'nil point'

    Non-Christians like to point these out, and thereby conclude that the Bible is not trustworthy.
    For me as a Christian it is entirely irrelevant.
    Unlike the Qu'ran, which has it's origin in one man only, the Bible consists of many books, and has it's origin in many people, living over a long period of time.
    Those inconsistencies are caused by different individuals telling the same story at different times, to different audiences, with different emphasis. (Hey, you are the Englsih teacher, aren't you? What's the plural of 'emphasis'?)
    For me that neither means it is not God's word through the mouths of man, nor that the Gospel is not trustworthy.

    Tiresome as it may be, people like to quote these things, and I have to put up with it ...

    Peace.

    Thats a good answer i see your perspective. But why would God allow there to be such confusion? thats what i ask when my christian friends say as you have said. Surely god would make it easy for everyone to understand his clear and concise message. For example, as you say with the Qur'an, it went directly to Prophet Muhammed PBUH, so why didn't God do this before as he would surely have known men were going to give incorrect contradicting narrations later.
    As the Bible is meant to be guidance, surely it should be error free, to prove its divinity from God himself, as the Qur'an is. Do you see where i'm coming from?

    Salam
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post


    I been meaning to put this link up for a while but haven't.

    Its a quiz about the Bible, and how it contains contradictions. I warn you before hand it is very "in your face".

    http://exchristian.net/3/
    Hi Moss

    Some people devote their entire lives trying to discredit other people's faiths ... are you one of them?
    There may be sites which aim to discredit Islam and the Qu'ran. Truth is, I don't know, I have never looked.
    Why should I even want to?
    Why do you want to?

    Questions, questions ...

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Hi Moss

    Some people devote their entire lives trying to discredit other people's faiths ... are you one of them?
    There may be sites which aim to discredit Islam and the Qu'ran. Truth is, I don't know, I have never looked.
    Why should I even want to?
    Why do you want to?

    Questions, questions ...

    Peace. :thankyou:

    Firstly i genuinely want to know what Christians say with regards to these clear contradictions.
    Secondly, i wouldn't say i want to discredit other people's faiths. I believe there has only been one faith, Islam, sent to all the prophets, including Jesus PBUH. However p[eople changed and distorted the teachings later. Now if i knew islam was the truth, wouldn't i want it for other poeople such as yourself?
    Also, a lot of people say the Bible is the word of/inspired by god. Being a beliuever myself i find it...let's say insulting that God could make such errors. So let's just say i'm defending God's great infinite power, trying to prove he's error-free

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    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Clueless? You??? Never!
    Maybe if I was a bit more awake today I would have spotted the trick!

    I thought there was something fishy going on, cause I was certain some of my guesses were right...

    Non-Christians like to point these out, and thereby conclude that the Bible is not trustworthy.
    I suppose it depends if you want to see it as a historical text or not. The contrasting accounts are definitely one reason why I find the Bible suspect, but I can appreciate the fact that you accept it.

    Those inconsistencies are caused by different individuals telling the same story at different times, to different audiences, with different emphasis. (Hey, you are the Englsih teacher, aren't you? What's the plural of 'emphasis'?)
    No, I'm an English teacher. Tut tut.

    It's 'emphases' (Pronounced em-fa-seez).

    For me that neither means it is not God's word through the mouths of man, nor that the Gospel is not trustworthy.
    So if god spoke through man, presumably god wouldn't have made a mistake or contradicted himself, so do the contradictions arise due to the fault of man, do you think?

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post

    So if god spoke through man, presumably god wouldn't have made a mistake or contradicted himself, so do the contradictions arise due to the fault of man, do you think?

    Peace
    yeah i think thats what most Christians say. but like i said earlier, why would God allow his final and ultimate revlation to become corrupt?
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    Thats a good answer i see your perspective. But why would God allow there to be such confusion? thats what i ask when my christian friends say as you have said. Surely god would make it easy for everyone to understand his clear and concise message. For example, as you say with the Qur'an, it went directly to Prophet Muhammed PBUH, so why didn't God do this before as he would surely have known men were going to give incorrect contradicting narrations later.
    As the Bible is meant to be guidance, surely it should be error free, to prove its divinity from God himself, as the Qur'an is. Do you see where i'm coming from?

    Salam
    Dear Moss

    I will not enter into a lengthy debate here. I have a birthday cake to bake!

    God's word works at a higher level than some set of instructions. I believe it to speak truth to my heart on a daily basis. The same Bible passage, if I read it today, may speak to me differently than it did two months ago.
    I believe the Bible to be God's word by faith, and I see it affect and instruct my life on a daily basis.
    God's word is not like the Highway Code. Muslims seem to treat the Qu'ran very differently, and therefore don't understand the Bible.

    That's really all I can say on this topic.
    Perhaps other people have better contributions to make.

    Peace.
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Dear Moss


    . I believe it to speak truth to my heart on a daily basis. The same Bible passage, if I read it today, may speak to me differently than it did two months ago.
    I believe the Bible to be God's word by faith, and I see it affect and instruct my life on a daily basis.

    hmm thats what i get confused about. how do you know which parts are Gods words? How do you know this part here isn't a part mistranslated or written in by historians? Yopu could be taking incorrect guidance from mere men
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post

    No, I'm an English teacher. Tut tut.

    You got me there! If ever you need any advice in German ...

    It's 'emphases' (Pronounced em-fa-seez).
    Thanks!
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    Firstly i genuinely want to know what Christians say with regards to these clear contradictions.
    Secondly, i wouldn't say i want to discredit other people's faiths. I believe there has only been one faith, Islam, sent to all the prophets, including Jesus PBUH. However p[eople changed and distorted the teachings later. Now if i knew islam was the truth, wouldn't i want it for other poeople such as yourself?
    Also, a lot of people say the Bible is the word of/inspired by god. Being a beliuever myself i find it...let's say insulting that God could make such errors. So let's just say i'm defending God's great infinite power, trying to prove he's error-free

    Peace
    I can see that you love your religion, and have a calling to spread the word. I respect that.
    We just have to agree to disagree!

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    Greetings and peace Moss,

    I took the quiz a second time and got zero both times, and that did not surprise me. I answered Jesus carried the cross to Golgotha the first time, and I answered Simon carried the cross to Golgotha the second time, both were the correct answer as each of them carried the cross some of the way towards Golgotha.

    Each Gospel was recording a part of the journey and was correct as the author saw the event, so were is the contradiction in that?

    In fact it is your quiz that carries contradictions because it marked both answers wrong, when in fact both answers were right.

    I suppose it amused someone to make the quiz, but I don’t think it was done in a fair Islamic way.

    In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith tolerance

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post

    I suppose it amused someone to make the quiz, but I don’t think it was done in a fair Islamic way.


    Eric

    Its not an islamic quiz. Its by ex-christians. i pointed it out before hand what the quiz was about, pointing out apparent contradictions. thankyou for explainibg that particular contradiction
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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    Greetings and peace Moss,

    I made the comment about the quiz not being done in a fair Islamic way, because I would not expect Muslims to put any trust in something that was done in a deceitful way.

    If a dozen people went independently to a day long festival then went home and wrote about what they saw, it stands to reason that they could write all kinds of things truthfully.

    Someone reading all these accounts could possibly think they were talking about different events.

    In the spirit of seeking truth.

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace Moss,

    I made the comment about the quiz not being done in a fair Islamic way, because I would not expect Muslims to put any trust in something that was done in a deceitful way.

    Eric
    well i don't know if it's deceitful or not, i'm hoping you fellow christians can prove it is lieing. So far you've refuted one.

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    Re: Question to Nicola and other Christians

    No, I'm an English teacher. Tut tut.

    It's 'emphases' (Pronounced em-fa-seez).
    Emphasis has plural!!! Woah, I find this quite shocking.
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