Jesus Loves His Enemies…and Then Kills Them All (OP)
This is really for Muslims to use in debates against Xtians, it's a very very good read. Alot of times xtians try to compare Muhammad(pbuh) and Jesus(pbuh), despite knowing the different roles both had, they make it out like one was good and other was bad. It is trully ignorance.
According to OT and NT, Jesus(pbuh)'s second comming is going to be extremely violent. I'm sure if you use the arguements in the following article, you'll make a hypocrite out of many people.
The greatest crime, the greatest ‘sin’ of Mohammad in the eyes of the Christian West is that he did not allow himself to be slaughtered, to be ‘crucified’ by his enemies. He only defended himself, his family and his followers; and finally vanquished his enemies. Mohammad’s success is the Christians’ gall of disappointment: He did not believe in any vicarious sacrifices for the sins of others. [Edward Gibbon, famous English Historian]
They check for truth who don't have it.
Those who have the truth do not need to look for it...
Your analogies are not in good order. We are on a thread started by a Muslim talking about Christian teaching. I am a Christian answering questions on my faith.
I am the one drinking calmly my cup, and you came around telling me that I am drinking the wrong drink and that I should be drinking your drink instead.
I tell you that I know both my drink and your drink, and I still prefer mine.
You ask me to prouve that I truly know what I am talking about.
I tell you to ask God.
You insist that I am the one who is supposed to give you the proofs. Hey, I am a creature, I do not generate the light of truth, only God does. That's why He is the Judge. Therefore you should trust Him and his holy judgements. I am confident of his right judgements on what I have said. If you don't sense your proofs yet, perhaps you should ask God's help.
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"Happy the nation that knows the cry of praise! They will walk in the light of your presence, Lord,
and rejoice in your name all the day – for you are the splendour of their strength,
and by your good will our standard is held high." Ps.88
Re: Jesus Loves His Enemies…and Then Kills Them All
I believe in God and His justice and His truth and all His attributes which is why I'm doing what He has commanded his faithful believers to do, fight for the truth with evidence. I'm not the one just blabbering fiction. All you've done in this thread is give philosophical claims but this is not the age of philosophy, this is the age of science & logic. God is timeless, His validity does not change with time. A faithful believer can defend His justice in all times with strong foundations because the foundations of his beliefs are strong. You've not been able to defend even one part of your "faith". It is not a matter of me vs you. It is, more importantly, a matter of truth vs falsehood. We've shown you time and again the loopholes in your own "faith" yet you don't wanna accept despite us having given logical arguments. If you will believe what we're preaching then this isn't gonna be the most ultimate victory of our lives. There are still billions of people in the world who don't even know what they pray and preach. Your submission to truth will only be a drop of the ocean. Neither will it be a victory of Islam over Christianity. If you submit to the truth, of course, all of us here will be delighted and welcome you with open arms.
You don't have to keep giving out just pointless and sometimes contradictory philosophy. Don't make it a personal matter. This forum is meant for discovery of truth, let's keep it that way.
Those who give partners (to Allah) will say: "If Allah had wished, we should not have given partners to Him nor would our fathers; nor should we have had any taboos." So did their ancestors argue falsely, until they tasted of Our wrath. Say: "Have ye any (certain) knowledge? If so, produce it before us. Ye follow nothing but conjecture: ye do nothing but lie."
Surah # 6 - Al An'am - Verse 148
So you see, none of your arguments never really surprise me (yeah they do infuriate me at times ). They have all been already mentioned in the Qur'an.
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If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
Surah Ale Imran : 160
It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)
Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala) does not inspire seeking forgiveness in a slave whom he wishes to punish.
Re: Jesus Loves His Enemies…and Then Kills Them All
The way I see it, we are all enemies of God, eversince sin entered the world we became enemies.
Instead of leaving us to our own devices, Jesus comes to save the world John 3:16-17
That is the ultimate act of love.
Who here would be willing to die for thier enemy?
Jesus' second comming is about destroying sin. Anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as saviour will perish, that is the truth Luke 13.
Because God is Holy sin must be destroyed.
If Jesus hated his enemies then he would not have come to save us.
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