Atheism's Opposition with Nature..

Totally true

You got this post in just before they shut the place down for Ramadan, so there was no way to clarify this swarm of misconception, but now I will.

format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Warraq

One of the claims of atheism is that it is a return to mother nature, i.e. it tries to reconnect man with Nature.

Who told you that? I have never heard an atheist claim that.

Also, human beings are part of nature, and I don’t think atheism says that humans aren't part of nature! All those people have religions, and intuitively know of the existence of god, they differed in the kind and number of gods but they agreed in His existence, and atheism is an exception of the rule, excluded from human nature.

Atheism is not excluded from human nature. It if was then there wouldn't be any atheists. I do think that we have an inate evolved tendency to see agency in things, and to err on the side of seeing it where it isn't (and wasting a bit of energy) instead of missing it where it is (and getting eaten or killed). Erring in this direction gave a survival advantage and so it is prevalent today. People pray to Gods to make it rain, just as they talk to their toasters or plead with their cars to make it to the next gas station when almost out of gas.

I also think it is inate and evolved that we instinctively look to and follow higher authority. That gives a huge survival advantage, as obeying "mom" when young no doubt kept us alive better. That same drive to submit to a higher power can no doubt be carried over to gods and kings.

for each created there is a creator.

That is a perfectly circular tautalogy. Of course every created needs a creator. Anything that doesn't need a creator (be that the universe or God himself) can't be called a created.

Why does atheism oppresse the human feelings

It doesn't.

and doesn’t consider them proof of anything?

Because emotion isn't evidence of anything besides experiencing emotion.

It doesn’t even admit that the human emotion is independent and not even admit its existence!

Atheists don't admit emotion exists? That's a claim I have never seen made before. As far as I know, there are no atheists who do what you claim here.

Homosexuality isn’t found in nature

It most definitely is found in nature. Do a very quick google and maybe you'll be amazed just how common homosexuality is amongst non-human animals.

yet atheism defends it in the name of freedom.

Atheism does no such thing. You can be atheist and homophobic. You can be atheists and hate gays just as much as religious people do. Such people are out there. THe only reason a lot of atheists don't hate homosexuals or homosexuality is because they don't have a holy book telling them to do so, and without that direction a lot of people want to be nice to each other and tolerate each other's differences. And again, not all atheists do. It has nothing to do with atheism.

Also, world literature since the beginning of history is centered around mainly on two major themes: God and Love. And both of them are denied by atheism because they are not susceptible for science labs.

Do you really believe that atheists can not love? Why do you think such a thing? We most certainly do love.

One of man's genuine natural characteristics is the especial care given to values and morality. Atheism, however, wants interests to be ahead of morality, contrary to human nature, and doesn’t not admit morals as absolute facts.

Rubbish. If anything, theism buries morality under obedience to power. Doing good for its own sake is one thing. Doing good (or bad) because you are ordered to is something else entirely.

Atheism presents nature different than what it really is, and wants us to believe that bulls suddenly jumped into the sea and became whales!

Quite an image. Where on earth are you getting these wild misconceptions?

Atheism advocates struggle and tries to found it in nature, advocating power and Capitalism as a consequence, even though struggle isn’t dominant in nature, it's harmony and submission to the laws of nature that is dominant.

I find it ironic that you are saying atheism advocates capitalism, when atheism is also often claimed to push communism (the opposite of capitalism).

Atheism has nothing to do with any of what you are talking about. Atheism is a lack of belief in Gods. That's it.

format_quote Originally Posted by منوة الخيال

the latter exploits those to score points for atheism

Score points? What points? Misconceptions were posted and clarified. This is not a contest.

which frankly is just another brand of satanism.

That sounds like another misconception to me, but can't be sure without knowing what is meant here by "satanism".

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

Of course every created needs a creator. Anything that doesn't need a creator (be that the universe or God himself) can't be called a created.

I don't see atheists as being opposed to Nature, rather quite the opposite - they make Mother Nature and Father Time as their creative gods with Darwin's 'Origin of the Species' as their bible.

Do you see the universe and nature is not created by a Higher Power that designed the overall 'big picture' as well as the most minute details? Some people are OK with the lack of a Creator, but this concept totally blows my mind as being unreasonable. I see Intelligent Design every where I look - starting with my own eye albeit horribly nearsighted. There is zero probability that the eye could have 'evolved' over time as the absence of any part (lens, cornea, optic nerve, etc) makes it completely and utterly useless. In the smallest thing I see evidence of God to which I say, subhan'Allah.

Regarding the eye, I am no expert on evolution but here is a video by a very young Dawkins (made many years ago) I found with a very quick google that explains evolution of the eye very well. You do NOT have to have spontaneous occurence of an eye like we have today. Each stage is more useful than the last. Especially note the smooth progression by Neilson (sp?) the is being referred to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwew5gHoh3E

format_quote Originally Posted by WRITER

before the big bang there was nothing. after the big bang, there was the universe. athiests should answer the question, what caused the big bang.

I see no reason why atheists should answer that question.

But, I do know there are many theories on what sparked the big bang. Some believe the universe is a cyclical series of big bangs and big crunches. Others believe that the big bang was sparked by some occurence in another universe (and that there are many making up the multiverse). Some have even come up with theories on how we could create a black hole, and there has been some concern about creating one by accident at Cern.

But at the end of the day, I don't claim to know, and I don't think anybody else knows for sure either. But it'll be exciting as research improves and we get better answers to such questions.

format_quote Originally Posted by منوة الخيال

By same token they shouldn't conjecture other questions of which they clearly have no knowledge!

Assalamu alaikum, Ukhti. How coincidental that you should write this as I was reading in the Quran earlier and I came to this ayat that struck me as pertinent to this discussion with our resident rejector of faith (kafir). Perhaps, you will see the similarity with your words that I do.

Surah Yunus ayat 66 No doubt! Verily, to Allah belongs whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth. And those who worship and invoke others besides Allah, in fact they follow not (Allah's so-called) partners, they follow only a conjecture and they only invent lies.

You and I as doctoral scientists have some knowledge of the genetic and biochemical basis for biological systems and for life itself and we as Mu'min know that Darwin and Dawkins are merely grasping at imaginary straws when they try to prove that the various organs, biological systems and species of life did not have a Creator, but rather came about 'naturally' through evolutionary means. They hold their so-called scientific theories (actually hypotheses) up as proof when in fact their hypotheses are not scientific at all as they can neither be proven nor disproven. You know, sorta like our belief that all existing and extinct species of life were created by Allah (swt) can neither be proven nor disproven. They have faith in their conjectures while we have faith in Allah (swt) that He revealed the Quran to Prophet Muhammad (saaws) and that the Quran is the inerrant revealed Word of Allah for our guidance to and along the Straight Way that leads to Eternal Life. Let them enjoy their intellectual horseplay while they can for we know from Allah we came and to Him we will return.

Well, I see the hate is still strong here, even just after Ramadan. I have clarified the misconceptions of the OP, and now we are being told that atheists are all satanists, run over children with trucks, and cling to faith. I won't bother addressing these misconceptions, as I don't believe even those expressing them believe them. Next they will tell us that atheists eat babies, breathe fire, and have pointy tails.... They have no interest in what atheists actually think or believe, and prefer to assign us our positions and thoughts. It all looks some some kind of perverted ingroup vs outgroup bonding exercise to me, so I'll leave them at it. If any rational muslims would like further clarification of what was written in the OP, feel free to PM me.

format_quote Originally Posted by منوة الخيال

For one to hate one would have to care.

The fact that you consistently reply to atheists indicates that you care quite a bit... Also, pygo hasn't said anything in this thread that merits a response like yours. His first post in the thread is actually a great deal more informative than the OP's.